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  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,554 ★★★★★
    ahmynuts said:

    Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"?
    Do people just not value their own time as worth anything?
    Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?

    Watch the video
    I did.
    Among other things, he said: "if you're not enjoying this, why not just stop?"
    Have you asked yourself that question?
    Is the answer: addiction?
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,554 ★★★★★
    edited March 21

    ahmynuts said:

    Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"?
    Do people just not value their own time as worth anything?
    Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?

    Watch the video
    I did.
    Among other things, he said: "if you're not enjoying this, why not just stop?"
    Have you asked yourself that question?
    Is the answer: addiction?
    Why do you have to take to the extreme of a psycho babble bs and call it an addiction?
    Its something people enjoyed for years, something people invested time, money, made friends in the process. Its not that easy to give up. Sure some people could be addicted; but in my case I did meet people I play with in real life and the last thing we did was play the game.
    Video game addiction is "psycho babble bs"??
    Anyway, I ask this for three reasons.
    (1) While I haven't been playing that long, I do watch and read stuff from years ago, and honestly, none of these complaints are new. Sure, the specifics might be new, but the general nature of complaints has been ongoing for years (bad AI, bad rewards, bad design, unfair glitches, unfair nodes, etc.). So to hear people who have been around for years constantly say things like "it's never been this bad", and then the next year say the same thing, it just seems like a cycle to me.
    (2) I ask myself if I am addicted all the time. When I find myself playing this game and not having fun, I try to take a step back and re-assess why I am playing, whether I feel like I can stop or take a break if I'm not enjoying it, etc.
    (3) I don't view time and money as separate things. They should both be valuable to players, and if they're not, maybe they need to make some changes in their life. No one should play a video game they do not enjoy...
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,554 ★★★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"?
    Do people just not value their own time as worth anything?
    Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?

    Watch the video
    I did.
    Among other things, he said: "if you're not enjoying this, why not just stop?"
    Have you asked yourself that question?
    Is the answer: addiction?
    Why do you have to take to the extreme of a psycho babble bs and call it an addiction?
    Its something people enjoyed for years, something people invested time, money, made friends in the process. Its not that easy to give up. Sure some people could be addicted; but in my case I did meet people I play with in real life and the last thing we did was play the game.
    Video game addiction is "psycho babble bs"??
    Anyway, I ask this for three reasons.
    (1) While I haven't been playing that long, I do watch and read stuff from years ago, and honestly, none of these complaints are new. Sure, the specifics might be new, but the general nature of complaints has been ongoing for years (bad AI, bad rewards, bad design, unfair glitches, unfair nodes, etc.). So to hear people who have been around for years constantly say things like "it's never been this bad", and then the next year say the same thing, it just seems like a cycle to me.
    (2) I ask myself if I am addicted all the time. When I find myself playing this game and not having fun, I try to take a step back and re-assess why I am playing, whether I feel like I can stop or take a break if I'm not enjoying it, etc.
    (3) I don't view time and money as separate things. They should both be valuable to players, and if they're not, maybe they need to make some changes in their life. No one should play a video game they do not enjoy...
    Don't derail this thread is going well
    Are you seriously going to pretend you know players based on something you read on "Video game addiction"? We are not talking about the people who died at Cyber cafes in Asia because they played Starcraft for over 40 straight hours.
    There is nothing me or anyone else can do to derail or break the daily cycle of passive frustration we see on the forum...Carry on....
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,320 ★★★★★
    Squidopus said:

    Kabam is more tolerant in this situation than I would be. You're indirectly encouraging boycotting and telling people they can spend if they choose. I get being frustrated. Passive aggressive threats aren't going to resolve issues any faster. This is a glorified tantrum.

    What even is the less tolerant option? Banning us? Or just telling us to shut it? Even if you think people are being hysterical I can’t imagine either of those being seen as sensible choices.
    Not promoting a boycott on the Fourm would be a start. People are free to air their frustrations within the rules of the Forum, but there was a time when anything to do with a boycott would be removed from here. I'm sorry, but the "I'm not saying you should but if you choose to...." malarkey isn't going to cut it with me.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 298 ★★
    edited March 21

    https://youtu.be/TvbQdnaf5S4?si=qlPoNS99teES2vD0

    I’m not posting this with the intent of getting pitchforks and torches raised, Vega himself said in the video, do what you want to do. However, I think he raises a lot of good points on the trajectory of the game and concerns he has for the future. Therefore, I wanted to share it here and start a healthy discussion on the forums. I would encourage you to watch his video and formulate your own opinion of the state of the game and make a call on whether to continue to support it financially, or communicate to kabam that you are displeased with the current state of the game through your wallet.

    I don’t want to villainize any particular member of the team or make any grandiose statements, and if you want to continue spending, that is your call, you won’t get any hate from me. However, it feels like this game is being lulled to sleep through passivity, and I don’t want that to happen. I love this game and have interacted with some amazing people through it. I could keep going, but I’ll leave it here. I hope this fosters a good back and forth discussion.

    I stopped spending 8 months ago and have now completely stopped playing this game. That's how anyone can make a stand, if by there own will decide to do so.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,320 ★★★★★
    I've been around long enough to know any semblance of a boycott snuffed itself out when it got the attention of the game team. This is about the same as a child holding its breath until it turns blue. Being frustrated and communicating that is one thing. Thinking that withholding money is going to make things get fixed faster is another. They're not sitting on their hands waiting for cash. They're working on things. Whether that's something you believe or not, is up to you. However, when I see something inane being encouraged, I'm going to call it like it is. Sorry, not sorry.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,554 ★★★★★
    GoingBack said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"?
    Do people just not value their own time as worth anything?
    Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?

    Watch the video
    I did.
    Among other things, he said: "if you're not enjoying this, why not just stop?"
    Have you asked yourself that question?
    Is the answer: addiction?
    Why do you have to take to the extreme of a psycho babble bs and call it an addiction?
    Its something people enjoyed for years, something people invested time, money, made friends in the process. Its not that easy to give up. Sure some people could be addicted; but in my case I did meet people I play with in real life and the last thing we did was play the game.
    Video game addiction is "psycho babble bs"??
    Anyway, I ask this for three reasons.
    (1) While I haven't been playing that long, I do watch and read stuff from years ago, and honestly, none of these complaints are new. Sure, the specifics might be new, but the general nature of complaints has been ongoing for years (bad AI, bad rewards, bad design, unfair glitches, unfair nodes, etc.). So to hear people who have been around for years constantly say things like "it's never been this bad", and then the next year say the same thing, it just seems like a cycle to me.
    (2) I ask myself if I am addicted all the time. When I find myself playing this game and not having fun, I try to take a step back and re-assess why I am playing, whether I feel like I can stop or take a break if I'm not enjoying it, etc.
    (3) I don't view time and money as separate things. They should both be valuable to players, and if they're not, maybe they need to make some changes in their life. No one should play a video game they do not enjoy...
    Don't derail this thread is going well
    Are you seriously going to pretend you know players based on something you read on "Video game addiction"? We are not talking about the people who died at Cyber cafes in Asia because they played Starcraft for over 40 straight hours.
    There is nothing me or anyone else can do to derail or break the daily cycle of passive frustration we see on the forum...Carry on....
    Make your own post questioning addiction then from your own point of view. Don't pretend you can analyze the player base.
    This person is just gaslighting, best to just ignore them.
    You don't know what gaslighting means.
    I'm not telling anyone, "No, actually you are happy with the game. You don't have any complaints. Everything is fine for you."
    That would be gaslighting.
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