Should Kabam overhaul Magik?

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  • Champion24Champion24 Member Posts: 23
    ahmynuts said:

    Yes but without an overhaul to her. Just leave her as is but with the new model

    No because I want a 7* magik and this is the only way it's happening
    What is the point of having Magik if she is not the same ? Just for collection? And she is not broken at all like Herc or Quake. I don't understand why the need to rework her.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,260 ★★★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    Yes but without an overhaul to her. Just leave her as is but with the new model

    No because I want a 7* magik and this is the only way it's happening
    What is the point of having Magik if she is not the same ? Just for collection? And she is not broken at all like Herc or Quake. I don't understand why the need to rework her.
    Then ur saying whats the point of the ironman overhaul cyclops the overhaul is to make them better or different better in a way for magiks overhaul its to not make her rarity locked and be useable with new stuff that can be cool
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,050 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    I’m shocked by the reaction to this tbh

    She’s a fantastic champ but she’s been 5* locked for ages. Even after ascension I can’t think of anyone using her on a regular basis because of how far behind 5* champs. The new model looks great and they promised she’d still be fantastic. Why wouldn’t you want to use her a 7* r4 and beyond?

    At least we don't have as many "we're ogs" comments as we did on my last poll last year, I think most people have finally moved on which is why overhauling all three is a real possibility now. With that being said, there will always be a few that are unable to move on of course but they're just collateral damage 💀
  • Champion24Champion24 Member Posts: 23
    Jhenny said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Yes but without an overhaul to her. Just leave her as is but with the new model

    No because I want a 7* magik and this is the only way it's happening
    What is the point of having Magik if she is not the same ? Just for collection? And she is not broken at all like Herc or Quake. I don't understand why the need to rework her.
    My fellow, She is BUSTED. Her limbo damage is unavoidable and RNG dependent, her Limbo damage also doesn't have a limitation to base stats so nodes are gonna drive that damage through the roof. What do you mean "What's the point of having Magik if she is not the same", you are talking like they are just gonna neuter her, They will still make her strong, just not BS, there's a difference.
    They can nerf limbo, no need to re work her whole kit. People use to love Magik for her power steal and power lock and able to use special with suicide and not take recoil. If they touch any if these then I am sorry to say she is not Magik anymore. She will just be a new champ for me.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,260 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    I’m shocked by the reaction to this tbh

    She’s a fantastic champ but she’s been 5* locked for ages. Even after ascension I can’t think of anyone using her on a regular basis because of how far behind 5* champs. The new model looks great and they promised she’d still be fantastic. Why wouldn’t you want to use her a 7* r4 and beyond?

    Im excited as maybe we can get the demon form like it needs to happen finally also its a radiance store purchase for magik so its great for everyone
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,050 ★★★★★

    Jhenny said:

    ahmynuts said:

    Yes but without an overhaul to her. Just leave her as is but with the new model

    No because I want a 7* magik and this is the only way it's happening
    What is the point of having Magik if she is not the same ? Just for collection? And she is not broken at all like Herc or Quake. I don't understand why the need to rework her.
    My fellow, She is BUSTED. Her limbo damage is unavoidable and RNG dependent, her Limbo damage also doesn't have a limitation to base stats so nodes are gonna drive that damage through the roof. What do you mean "What's the point of having Magik if she is not the same", you are talking like they are just gonna neuter her, They will still make her strong, just not BS, there's a difference.
    They can nerf limbo, no need to re work her whole kit. People use to love Magik for her power steal and power lock and able to use special with suicide and not take recoil. If they touch any if these then I am sorry to say she is not Magik anymore. She will just be a new champ for me.
    Good, nobody cares if you don't like it. We don't need broken champs in the game anymore those were different times.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,809 ★★★★★

    Over time, being 5-Star locked seems to have caused folks to forget how truly busted Magik is.
    5 Star Magik was being used in competitive Alliance War against maxed out 6 Stars, up until the 7 Star Meta took away her reach.

    Releasing Magik in her current form as a 7 Star is not an option - and leaving her locked in 5 Star land isn't going to be beneficial to her, and honestly, isn't great for the game.

    The goal is for her to be a powerful Champion that can be used in MCOC for a long time, and I think this is very long overdue.

    At this point points I’m happy she getting released regardless
  • AnotherconcernplayerAnotherconcernplayer Member Posts: 65

    Over time, being 5-Star locked seems to have caused folks to forget how truly busted Magik is.
    5 Star Magik was being used in competitive Alliance War against maxed out 6 Stars, up until the 7 Star Meta took away her reach.

    Releasing Magik in her current form as a 7 Star is not an option - and leaving her locked in 5 Star land isn't going to be beneficial to her, and honestly, isn't great for the game.

    The goal is for her to be a powerful Champion that can be used in MCOC for a long time, and I think this is very long overdue.

    Hi Mike,

    Would there is an option for:-

    *All Magik 5* and under still keep their original design
    *Magik 7* would have the new overhaul

    Similar to all the champs in ROL stay they way they were original design while changed version are available in other part of the game.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,610 ★★★★★
    I mean keeping the lower rarity magik (2* to 5*) as it is and introducing the 6* and 7* versions with the new kit not an option?

    They already have the tech, Look how 1* champs retain their old kits.

    Win win for both nostalgia guys, and for magik fans who wanna see her as 7* with any kit.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,050 ★★★★★
    edited May 2

    Over time, being 5-Star locked seems to have caused folks to forget how truly busted Magik is.
    5 Star Magik was being used in competitive Alliance War against maxed out 6 Stars, up until the 7 Star Meta took away her reach.

    Releasing Magik in her current form as a 7 Star is not an option - and leaving her locked in 5 Star land isn't going to be beneficial to her, and honestly, isn't great for the game.

    The goal is for her to be a powerful Champion that can be used in MCOC for a long time, and I think this is very long overdue.

    Hi Mike,

    Would there is an option for:-

    *All Magik 5* and under still keep their original design
    *Magik 7* would have the new overhaul

    Similar to all the champs in ROL stay they way they were original design while changed version are available in other part of the game.
    I'm pretty sure they already said no to that one, they can do it with 1* champs but for higher rarities it would be confusing for new players and there would be complaints. They play one version for months and then all of a sudden pull the 6* and it's a different champ. Also it feels like too much work for no reason really.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,260 ★★★★★

    I mean keeping the lower rarity magik (2* to 5*) as it is and introducing the 6* and 7* versions with the new kit not an option?

    They already have the tech, Look how 1* champs retain their old kits.

    Win win for both nostalgia guys, and for magik fans who wanna see her as 7* with any kit.

    Why u wont be playing the 5 anyway if u get the 7 why keep the kit same if ur not gonna use anyway better to buff all so when new players join they can learn the new kit than having to know 2 different it makes it confusing
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,050 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    I mean keeping the lower rarity magik (2* to 5*) as it is and introducing the 6* and 7* versions with the new kit not an option?

    They already have the tech, Look how 1* champs retain their old kits.

    Win win for both nostalgia guys, and for magik fans who wanna see her as 7* with any kit.

    Why u wont be playing the 5 anyway if u get the 7 why keep the kit same if ur not gonna use anyway better to buff all so when new players join they can learn the new kit than having to know 2 different it makes it confusing
    This, they'd be doing so much work for what? Very few people are going to use them at 5* rarity anyways, I haven't used Magik or Quake in about four years it's pointless especially with how early you start to get 6* these days due to progression speeding up every year. Some people just want to find a way to argue against this for the sake of arguing at this point.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,260 ★★★★★

    Bendy said:

    I mean keeping the lower rarity magik (2* to 5*) as it is and introducing the 6* and 7* versions with the new kit not an option?

    They already have the tech, Look how 1* champs retain their old kits.

    Win win for both nostalgia guys, and for magik fans who wanna see her as 7* with any kit.

    Why u wont be playing the 5 anyway if u get the 7 why keep the kit same if ur not gonna use anyway better to buff all so when new players join they can learn the new kit than having to know 2 different it makes it confusing
    This, they'd be doing so much work for what? Very few people are going to use them at 5* rarity anyways, I haven't used Magik or Quake in about four years it's pointless especially with how early you start to get 6* these days due to progression speeding up every year. Some people just want to find a way to argue against this for the sake of arguing at this point.
    Literally 6s u get so quickly that u wont ever use 5s
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,610 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    I mean keeping the lower rarity magik (2* to 5*) as it is and introducing the 6* and 7* versions with the new kit not an option?

    They already have the tech, Look how 1* champs retain their old kits.

    Win win for both nostalgia guys, and for magik fans who wanna see her as 7* with any kit.

    Why u wont be playing the 5 anyway if u get the 7 why keep the kit same if ur not gonna use anyway better to buff all so when new players join they can learn the new kit than having to know 2 different it makes it confusing
    I think it's the FOMO bout not be able to use her again. She's a fan favourite and there are some guys who still use her in questing.

    New players can always learn stuff. They could put some symbol or special description that states this champ have different kit in higher rarities.

    It sure is a lot of work, but I believe completely missing out a fan favourite champ for years feels wrong, and I understand why a lot of peeps are frustrated.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,050 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    Bendy said:

    I mean keeping the lower rarity magik (2* to 5*) as it is and introducing the 6* and 7* versions with the new kit not an option?

    They already have the tech, Look how 1* champs retain their old kits.

    Win win for both nostalgia guys, and for magik fans who wanna see her as 7* with any kit.

    Why u wont be playing the 5 anyway if u get the 7 why keep the kit same if ur not gonna use anyway better to buff all so when new players join they can learn the new kit than having to know 2 different it makes it confusing
    This, they'd be doing so much work for what? Very few people are going to use them at 5* rarity anyways, I haven't used Magik or Quake in about four years it's pointless especially with how early you start to get 6* these days due to progression speeding up every year. Some people just want to find a way to argue against this for the sake of arguing at this point.
    Literally 6s u get so quickly that u wont ever use 5s
    By the time you're done taking one 5* to r5 you probably already have three 6* you can start working on.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,050 ★★★★★
    edited May 2

    Bendy said:

    I mean keeping the lower rarity magik (2* to 5*) as it is and introducing the 6* and 7* versions with the new kit not an option?

    They already have the tech, Look how 1* champs retain their old kits.

    Win win for both nostalgia guys, and for magik fans who wanna see her as 7* with any kit.

    Why u wont be playing the 5 anyway if u get the 7 why keep the kit same if ur not gonna use anyway better to buff all so when new players join they can learn the new kit than having to know 2 different it makes it confusing
    I think it's the FOMO bout not be able to use her again. She's a fan favourite and there are some guys who still use her in questing.

    New players can always learn stuff. They could put some symbol or special description that states this champ have different kit in higher rarities.

    It sure is a lot of work, but I believe completely missing out a fan favourite champ for years feels wrong, and I understand why a lot of peeps are frustrated.
    I don't think a lot of people are frustrated about this anymore, if anything they're frustrated it didn't happen sooner. It was nice while it lasted (for ten years mind you) but it's time to move on, there is no reason to keep her 5* as is anymore, the game is not what it used to be and nostalgia and fomo are not good enough reasons to go through all that hassle.
  • ShaggyMShaggyM Member Posts: 340 ★★★
    They have to at least pay homage to her original kit. She needs to still be the best power control champ in the game which should be part of her base kit and like her current form put whatever damage and regen abilities in her sig. Anything less than those basic principles will be always looked at as a nerf.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 6,050 ★★★★★
    edited May 2
    ShaggyM said:

    They have to at least pay homage to her original kit. She needs to still be the best power control champ in the game which should be part of her base kit and like her current form put whatever damage and regen abilities in her sig. Anything less than those basic principles will be always looked at as a nerf.

    Then you're looking at it the wrong way because that is exactly how this overhaul has to be looked at, nobody here is sugar coating anything this is a nerf 100% and everyone has to be clear on that. However, nerf ≠ trash necessarily, they will probably do her justice and leave some of the basics in but they are going to take her from game breaking down top 3. Miike said last year before he left, the goal is to keep most of the playstyle and abilities but take them from broken down to God tier.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,610 ★★★★★
    ShaggyM said:

    They have to at least pay homage to her original kit. She needs to still be the best power control champ in the game which should be part of her base kit and like her current form put whatever damage and regen abilities in her sig. Anything less than those basic principles will be always looked at as a nerf.

    Yeah if they make a completely different kit where she applies 125% neutralize when a cosmic champ with true focus buff reaches 5% health, or fate seal all buffs when a cosmic champ gains a glancing buff, or applies slow for 2 seconds every 15 hits on the combo meter.

    I mean, most champs released these days looks like they have been released only to neuter down the latest defenders with random rpg abilities that make no sense for the character, lol.
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