New war format - Attuma has no counter on the regen node

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  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,232 ★★★★★


    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,398 ★★★★★



    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.

    Bad job hiding the health bar. We cannot see that it is 85% and 0%
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,232 ★★★★★
    Bugmat78 said:



    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.

    Weird-looking Atuma there :*
    There are comments in the thread that nefaria doesnt work on thus node.
    Spread the word, make everyone put ttuma on that node...ill test out the fight.



    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.

    Bad job hiding the health bar. We cannot see that it is 85% and 0%
    I hid the name. This account name has never been seen in the forums
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,398 ★★★★★

    Bugmat78 said:



    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.

    Weird-looking Atuma there :*
    There are comments in the thread that nefaria doesnt work on thus node.
    Spread the word, make everyone put ttuma on that node...ill test out the fight.



    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.

    Bad job hiding the health bar. We cannot see that it is 85% and 0%
    I hid the name. This account name has never been seen in the forums
    👎
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,232 ★★★★★
    edited May 26

    Bugmat78 said:



    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.

    Weird-looking Atuma there :*
    There are comments in the thread that nefaria doesnt work on thus node.
    Spread the word, make everyone put ttuma on that node...ill test out the fight.



    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.

    Bad job hiding the health bar. We cannot see that it is 85% and 0%
    I hid the name. This account name has never been seen in the forums
    👎
    😁 way to bring the light..
  • Ironmark48Ironmark48 Member Posts: 32
    edited May 27

    Bluestone said:

    I found other nodes/champs combination that makes it almost impossible to beat ..
    Wonder if anyone got some ..

    what are they

    I fought a Zola in the "stun immunity" and "punish heavy/specials" nodes, i know how he works so i brought Angela and Hulkling (probably not the best combination idk). The thing is, that player had the resistance mastery active, so whenever i tried to heavy Zola (to remove 10 of his charges) i was ALWAYS getting blocked and smacked in the face. That happened literally every single time, i couldn't use heavy attacks and my limit was obviously 20 hits per round since he hits like a nuclear bomb on AW. I dont know if its a bug or something but for sure its an annoying combination. Jesus Christ. PS: i died 30 times fully boosted
  • CaptainaidenCaptainaiden Member Posts: 1,248 ★★★★
    Warlock is beast on that node. Never fought attuma actually but i test on practice and attuma didn't heal at all
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 653 ★★★
    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
  • Mother_FlerkenMother_Flerken Member Posts: 541 ★★★

    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
    All heal block effects on LDS get immediately removed.

    Warlock and AA look like the best options. Curious though if AA would work too well against the node and prevent you from getting charges also.
  • Adri5846Adri5846 Member Posts: 209 ★★

    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
    All heal block effects on LDS get immediately removed.

    Warlock and AA look like the best options. Curious though if AA would work too well against the node and prevent you from getting charges also.
    No, AA prevent healing and dont give you charges (one friend told me that, I didnt try it) so I think that Warlock could be the only option for LDS or champs like Attuma.

    If the defender´s regen rate can be reduced Nefaria or Photon are great.
  • Yaron_avivYaron_aviv Member Posts: 116 ★★

    Bugmat78 said:



    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.

    Weird-looking Atuma there :*
    There are comments in the thread that nefaria doesnt work on thus node.
    Spread the word, make everyone put ttuma on that node...ill test out the fight.



    Same node today T1.
    Slow fight
    Boosts : 15% attack and 10% champion. Took gladiator for +400 block proficiency synery, Nothing big.

    Bad job hiding the health bar. We cannot see that it is 85% and 0%
    I hid the name. This account name has never been seen in the forums
    The point was nefaria doesn’t work on that node ON CHAMPS IMMUNE TO REGEN RATE MODIFICATION.

    And that attuma has no heal blocking counter with energy dmg basic attacks.

    But sentinel will likely work…
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,398 ★★★★★
    Adri5846 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
    All heal block effects on LDS get immediately removed.

    Warlock and AA look like the best options. Curious though if AA would work too well against the node and prevent you from getting charges also.
    No, AA prevent healing and dont give you charges (one friend told me that, I didnt try it) so I think that Warlock could be the only option for LDS or champs like Attuma.

    If the defender´s regen rate can be reduced Nefaria or Photon are great.
    They talked about fixing the issue where champs like warlock and archangel weren't giving charges.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,824 ★★★★★

    Adri5846 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
    All heal block effects on LDS get immediately removed.

    Warlock and AA look like the best options. Curious though if AA would work too well against the node and prevent you from getting charges also.
    No, AA prevent healing and dont give you charges (one friend told me that, I didnt try it) so I think that Warlock could be the only option for LDS or champs like Attuma.

    If the defender´s regen rate can be reduced Nefaria or Photon are great.
    They talked about fixing the issue where champs like warlock and archangel weren't giving charges.
    True about warlock but archangel not giving charges may be related to aar. They didn’t specify archangel in the post as well. So not sure if he will work.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,398 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
    All heal block effects on LDS get immediately removed.

    Warlock and AA look like the best options. Curious though if AA would work too well against the node and prevent you from getting charges also.
    No, AA prevent healing and dont give you charges (one friend told me that, I didnt try it) so I think that Warlock could be the only option for LDS or champs like Attuma.

    If the defender´s regen rate can be reduced Nefaria or Photon are great.
    They talked about fixing the issue where champs like warlock and archangel weren't giving charges.
    True about warlock but archangel not giving charges may be related to aar. They didn’t specify archangel in the post as well. So not sure if he will work.
    The force things must immune to AAR. My ally mates did fights with him and it worked well
  • Adri5846Adri5846 Member Posts: 209 ★★

    Graves_3 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
    All heal block effects on LDS get immediately removed.

    Warlock and AA look like the best options. Curious though if AA would work too well against the node and prevent you from getting charges also.
    No, AA prevent healing and dont give you charges (one friend told me that, I didnt try it) so I think that Warlock could be the only option for LDS or champs like Attuma.

    If the defender´s regen rate can be reduced Nefaria or Photon are great.
    They talked about fixing the issue where champs like warlock and archangel weren't giving charges.
    True about warlock but archangel not giving charges may be related to aar. They didn’t specify archangel in the post as well. So not sure if he will work.
    The force things must immune to AAR. My ally mates did fights with him and it worked well
    With Archangel? It can be after the fix?
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,398 ★★★★★
    Adri5846 said:

    Graves_3 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
    All heal block effects on LDS get immediately removed.

    Warlock and AA look like the best options. Curious though if AA would work too well against the node and prevent you from getting charges also.
    No, AA prevent healing and dont give you charges (one friend told me that, I didnt try it) so I think that Warlock could be the only option for LDS or champs like Attuma.

    If the defender´s regen rate can be reduced Nefaria or Photon are great.
    They talked about fixing the issue where champs like warlock and archangel weren't giving charges.
    True about warlock but archangel not giving charges may be related to aar. They didn’t specify archangel in the post as well. So not sure if he will work.
    The force things must immune to AAR. My ally mates did fights with him and it worked well
    With Archangel? It can be after the fix?
    Not the Attuma fight, but some other fight
  • Adri5846Adri5846 Member Posts: 209 ★★

    Adri5846 said:

    Graves_3 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
    All heal block effects on LDS get immediately removed.

    Warlock and AA look like the best options. Curious though if AA would work too well against the node and prevent you from getting charges also.
    No, AA prevent healing and dont give you charges (one friend told me that, I didnt try it) so I think that Warlock could be the only option for LDS or champs like Attuma.

    If the defender´s regen rate can be reduced Nefaria or Photon are great.
    They talked about fixing the issue where champs like warlock and archangel weren't giving charges.
    True about warlock but archangel not giving charges may be related to aar. They didn’t specify archangel in the post as well. So not sure if he will work.
    The force things must immune to AAR. My ally mates did fights with him and it worked well
    With Archangel? It can be after the fix?
    Not the Attuma fight, but some other fight
    Thanks! Good to know that Archangel can work now with the node.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,824 ★★★★★

    Graves_3 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    Adri5846 said:

    I face a Lady D today in that node and her regen rate cannot be reduced so i can confirm that Photon or Nefaria dont work if defender is immune to regen modification.

    Apart from Warlock can any other champ that heals blocks do the fight?

    Sentinel should be good he has that long heal block on his sp1
    All heal block effects on LDS get immediately removed.

    Warlock and AA look like the best options. Curious though if AA would work too well against the node and prevent you from getting charges also.
    No, AA prevent healing and dont give you charges (one friend told me that, I didnt try it) so I think that Warlock could be the only option for LDS or champs like Attuma.

    If the defender´s regen rate can be reduced Nefaria or Photon are great.
    They talked about fixing the issue where champs like warlock and archangel weren't giving charges.
    True about warlock but archangel not giving charges may be related to aar. They didn’t specify archangel in the post as well. So not sure if he will work.
    The force things must immune to AAR. My ally mates did fights with him and it worked well
    Ah!! That’s good to know. Thanks for confirming.
  • VolcanoEruptionVolcanoEruption Member Posts: 1
    Try Jean Grey if you have her. She is immune to thorns
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,353 ★★★★★
  • Wakandas_FinestWakandas_Finest Member Posts: 883 ★★★★

    I already did l, but the one who asks for help then questions the advice given. Yes, Nefaria does not have heal block, but he doesn’t need to have it. His signature ability when awakened prevents the defender from regenerating and reverses it thus gaining charges while doing it from the node. And like I already told you he counters thorns when ramped up.

    I think what OP is trying to ask is whether or not that should be happening. Attuma cannot have his regen rate reduced. So how is Befaria doing it?
    Because attuma’s ability only applies to his base regeneration rate and not to buffs from nodes. I know for a fact Count countered him in past war seasons because alliances would often place him on regen nodes and this was tier 1 wars
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,398 ★★★★★

    I already did l, but the one who asks for help then questions the advice given. Yes, Nefaria does not have heal block, but he doesn’t need to have it. His signature ability when awakened prevents the defender from regenerating and reverses it thus gaining charges while doing it from the node. And like I already told you he counters thorns when ramped up.

    I think what OP is trying to ask is whether or not that should be happening. Attuma cannot have his regen rate reduced. So how is Befaria doing it?
    Because attuma’s ability only applies to his base regeneration rate and not to buffs from nodes. I know for a fact Count countered him in past war seasons because alliances would often place him on regen nodes and this was tier 1 wars
    Past wars do not matter . You didn't *Need* to cancel out healing then. Here you do.

    And I don't understand what you mean by "not to buffs from nodes". Regen rate is regen rate.
  • Wakandas_FinestWakandas_Finest Member Posts: 883 ★★★★

    I already did l, but the one who asks for help then questions the advice given. Yes, Nefaria does not have heal block, but he doesn’t need to have it. His signature ability when awakened prevents the defender from regenerating and reverses it thus gaining charges while doing it from the node. And like I already told you he counters thorns when ramped up.

    I think what OP is trying to ask is whether or not that should be happening. Attuma cannot have his regen rate reduced. So how is Befaria doing it?
    Because attuma’s ability only applies to his base regeneration rate and not to buffs from nodes. I know for a fact Count countered him in past war seasons because alliances would often place him on regen nodes and this was tier 1 wars
    Past wars do not matter . You didn't *Need* to cancel out healing then. Here you do.

    And I don't understand what you mean by "not to buffs from nodes". Regen rate is regen rate.
    Read his kit bro only his base regen rate which is set at 25% instead of the normal 100% can’t be reduced. It is clearly referring to the regen in his base kit not from regeneration from other sources. You must be new to the game if you don’t know that Kabam makes those kinds of distinctions.
  • KoolRockXaviKoolRockXavi Member Posts: 3
    We have the same problem with a R3 Mole Man on that node. It hasn't been fun trying to get passed that regen rate!
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,398 ★★★★★

    I already did l, but the one who asks for help then questions the advice given. Yes, Nefaria does not have heal block, but he doesn’t need to have it. His signature ability when awakened prevents the defender from regenerating and reverses it thus gaining charges while doing it from the node. And like I already told you he counters thorns when ramped up.

    I think what OP is trying to ask is whether or not that should be happening. Attuma cannot have his regen rate reduced. So how is Befaria doing it?
    Because attuma’s ability only applies to his base regeneration rate and not to buffs from nodes. I know for a fact Count countered him in past war seasons because alliances would often place him on regen nodes and this was tier 1 wars
    Past wars do not matter . You didn't *Need* to cancel out healing then. Here you do.

    And I don't understand what you mean by "not to buffs from nodes". Regen rate is regen rate.
    Read his kit bro only his base regen rate which is set at 25% instead of the normal 100% can’t be reduced. It is clearly referring to the regen in his base kit not from regeneration from other sources. You must be new to the game if you don’t know that Kabam makes those kinds of distinctions.
    How regen works is

    Regen Amount × Regen Rate/100 .

    For Attuma, Regen Rate cannot fall below 25%. Only the Regen Amount is affected by nodes here. So that's not relevant.
  • Wakandas_FinestWakandas_Finest Member Posts: 883 ★★★★

    I already did l, but the one who asks for help then questions the advice given. Yes, Nefaria does not have heal block, but he doesn’t need to have it. His signature ability when awakened prevents the defender from regenerating and reverses it thus gaining charges while doing it from the node. And like I already told you he counters thorns when ramped up.

    I think what OP is trying to ask is whether or not that should be happening. Attuma cannot have his regen rate reduced. So how is Befaria doing it?
    Because attuma’s ability only applies to his base regeneration rate and not to buffs from nodes. I know for a fact Count countered him in past war seasons because alliances would often place him on regen nodes and this was tier 1 wars
    Past wars do not matter . You didn't *Need* to cancel out healing then. Here you do.

    And I don't understand what you mean by "not to buffs from nodes". Regen rate is regen rate.
    Read his kit bro only his base regen rate which is set at 25% instead of the normal 100% can’t be reduced. It is clearly referring to the regen in his base kit not from regeneration from other sources. You must be new to the game if you don’t know that Kabam makes those kinds of distinctions.
    How regen works is

    Regen Amount × Regen Rate/100 .

    For Attuma, Regen Rate cannot fall below 25%. Only the Regen Amount is affected by nodes here. So that's not relevant.
    You continue to ignore that his kit specifically states his “base” regen rate this clearly refers to the regen that is a part of his “base” kit. Again Kabam uses this phrasing a lot in various champion descriptions to make the distinction between base abilities or effects vs abilities or effects that come from other sources such as nodes, synergies, etc
  • MCOCHazzaMCOCHazza Member Posts: 926 ★★★★
    edited May 30
    Attuma’s regen rate is set as 25%, it can be increased by his own kit (see hydration) and recovery. But it cannot be lowered further than that baseline 25%. This is similar to serpent’s base combat power being lowered and locked from being dropped further, but he can still increase his combat power with other effects (e.g. his inexorable, energise nodes)

    So champs that lower regen rate will only be able to get it to that 25%, no lower.
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