May be accused of Gatekeeping but... Valiant EQ

TheTrueBeast10TheTrueBeast10 Member Posts: 130 ★★★
Why is Valiant EQ getting opened up to Paragon players? It's literally called Valiant... I understand that it's trying to limit the gap between top-end players and whatnot, but there's barely anything that makes Valiant worthwhile as it is (don't say anything about the Valiant/ 4 hour crystals. The 4 hour crystals are barely an upgrade and the valiant crystals are outdated and a hassle to get nowadays).

Like what is the point of pushing these titles if they do not hold any weight? Its not even that hard to become a Valiant anymore so why not keep the requirement? Completing story content should be pretty important step in the game, I say
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  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 959 ★★★

    Relax just so u know 90% of paragons can’t even benefit cuz they don’t have that good ot a roster

    You don't need a good roster, they're TB level fights. You can use 5* champs.

    This is just Valiant players getting lumped in with lower progressions once again, and it's ridiculous. We finally get our own thing and it doesn't even last beyond its first cycle. Insane.
    Access to monetary deals cannot continue to be to only true exclusivity that the most invested players in the game get.
    After a great last several months of moving in good directions, this decision is absolutely awful.
    Even though I am about to be valiant in a few days my mystic roster is still bad on the top row of my mystic champs I have a 4 star doom this may not be the case for all paragon players but some of my classes are really weak such as mutant mystic and especially science
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 959 ★★★

    Relax just so u know 90% of paragons can’t even benefit cuz they don’t have that good ot a roster

    You don't need a good roster, they're TB level fights. You can use 5* champs.

    This is just Valiant players getting lumped in with lower progressions once again, and it's ridiculous. We finally get our own thing and it doesn't even last beyond its first cycle. Insane.
    Access to monetary deals cannot continue to be to only true exclusivity that the most invested players in the game get.
    After a great last several months of moving in good directions, this decision is absolutely awful.
    I’m also not trying to defend kabam yes kabam should have kept valiant eq to valiant players and if they rlly wanted to do something they could do it with paragon gauntlet for paragon player
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 959 ★★★
    Pikolu said:

    I say paragons should have to explore TB EQ and Paragon gauntlet at the minimum to unlock Valiant gauntlet if it is going to be available to them. I personally don't like it being free reign for paragons.

    Honestly I think this is a good idea make it free for valiants and paragons have to explore to eq and paragon gauntlet
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,323 ★★★★★

    Relax just so u know 90% of paragons can’t even benefit cuz they don’t have that good ot a roster

    You don't need a good roster, they're TB level fights. You can use 5* champs.

    This is just Valiant players getting lumped in with lower progressions once again, and it's ridiculous. We finally get our own thing and it doesn't even last beyond its first cycle. Insane.
    Access to monetary deals cannot continue to be to only true exclusivity that the most invested players in the game get.
    After a great last several months of moving in good directions, this decision is absolutely awful.
    They're not that easy. They're pretty well tailored with the progression of the difficulties. Also, you do need a decent Roster. Anyone who doesn't have sufficient Champs in each Class will have a much harder time.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,348 ★★★★★
    it's catchup to set up an upcoming new title. it's always been like this.
  • spiderknight616spiderknight616 Member Posts: 789 ★★★

    I can't help having this weird taste that I was treated as a lab rat to test a new mode in May so Paragons can enjoy it in June... Yay testing for lower progression.

    Tbf they already said the first few months would be test months.
  • Zacharias10719Zacharias10719 Member Posts: 114 ★★
    KRACETOS said:

    Why is Valiant EQ getting opened up to Paragon players? It's literally called Valiant... I understand that it's trying to limit the gap between top-end players and whatnot, but there's barely anything that makes Valiant worthwhile as it is (don't say anything about the Valiant/ 4 hour crystals. The 4 hour crystals are barely an upgrade and the valiant crystals are outdated and a hassle to get nowadays).

    Like what is the point of pushing these titles if they do not hold any weight? Its not even that hard to become a Valiant anymore so why not keep the requirement? Completing story content should be pretty important step in the game, I say

    The incentive isn't content restriction, its what spenders can get for their money. The incentive to push progression titles is you get access to bigger better webstore deals, bigger better July 4th and cyber Monday deals. They aren't rewarded with content exclusivity. They are rewarded with how far their dollars will go. Progression it targeted to incentivise revenue.
    This isn't even true as valiants are lumped in with paragons for most of these too lol
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,491 ★★★★★


    This
  • Beerus2StrongBeerus2Strong Member Posts: 231 ★★

    Relax just so u know 90% of paragons can’t even benefit cuz they don’t have that good ot a roster

    You don't need a good roster, they're TB level fights. You can use 5* champs.

    This is just Valiant players getting lumped in with lower progressions once again, and it's ridiculous. We finally get our own thing and it doesn't even last beyond its first cycle. Insane.
    Access to monetary deals cannot continue to be to only true exclusivity that the most invested players in the game get.
    After a great last several months of moving in good directions, this decision is absolutely awful.
    Even though I am about to be valiant in a few days my mystic roster is still bad on the top row of my mystic champs I have a 4 star doom this may not be the case for all paragon players but some of my classes are really weak such as mutant mystic and especially science
    We've all been there before. That's the whole point of journeying through these Kabam streets and finally getting to a point where you've got a roster comfortable enough to get you through whatever content.

    What's happening here just feels lame
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 1,674 ★★★★
    I'm a 7.5+ million valiant account and on my way up the global rankings, I saw a 7+ million paragon account with 7* rank 3 champions, that player most likely refuse to do story quest requirement to be valiant

    I don't understand why such player don't want to enjoy valiant daily super event benefits

    So there are some paragons that are really big accounts that should have no problem doing valiant gauntlet, the content itself requires a decent roster that fresh paragons may not be able to field so it's to let them know they need to spend or play other content to get more rewards

    Such practice is not unusual in games, to let players know the limit of their rosters so they will either spend money on something or play other content to get stronger, valiant gauntlet is only available for a month so paragons will be pressured to do something within a month if they want to clear the content

    Maybe the difficulty of valiant gauntlet will increase compared to the testing (too easy), I don't think Kabam will give good rewards away so easily to paragons
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 1,967 ★★★★★
    Another Kabam L right up there with the Banquit and the fact there is no monthly valiant deal is another slap in the face, so to speak
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,809 ★★★★★
    Is there a single content in the game rn that's exclusive to Valiants?
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,491 ★★★★★
    When is the next title and what could it be?
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 8,638 ★★★★★

    Another Kabam L right up there with the Banquit and the fact there is no monthly valiant deal is another slap in the face, so to speak

    I forgot they didn't make a valiant monthly deal either.

    Literally wtf is going on.

    The one benefit they give valiants (better ways to spend money) wasnt even given that time
  • JohnnooooooJohnnoooooo Member Posts: 255 ★★★
    edited May 31

    Relax just so u know 90% of paragons can’t even benefit cuz they don’t have that good ot a roster

    You don't need a good roster, they're TB level fights. You can use 5* champs.

    This is just Valiant players getting lumped in with lower progressions once again, and it's ridiculous. We finally get our own thing and it doesn't even last beyond its first cycle. Insane.
    Access to monetary deals cannot continue to be to only true exclusivity that the most invested players in the game get.
    After a great last several months of moving in good directions, this decision is absolutely awful.
    They're not that easy. They're pretty well tailored with the progression of the difficulties. Also, you do need a decent Roster. Anyone who doesn't have sufficient Champs in each Class will have a much harder time.
    I actually agree with this, and as soon as I saw it announced.. my son's a new valiant, and when I helped him clear it, it was quite difficult for his roster, I had to use 5 stars, and he regularly gets into GC, it's tailored pretty well and I believe will actually show paragon players what's needed more by letting them try and struggle.. my account breezed through it though and I really enjoyed it, and thought rewards were great too
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