Allowing paragons to play valiant gauntlet doesn't mean paragons will have an easy time getting through, in fact weak paragons are very likely to get stuck towards the end when they run out of strong champions of that class
Relax just so u know 90% of paragons can’t even benefit cuz they don’t have that good ot a roster
You don't need a good roster, they're TB level fights. You can use 5* champs.
This is just Valiant players getting lumped in with lower progressions once again, and it's ridiculous. We finally get our own thing and it doesn't even last beyond its first cycle. Insane. Access to monetary deals cannot continue to be to only true exclusivity that the most invested players in the game get. After a great last several months of moving in good directions, this decision is absolutely awful.
They're not that easy. They're pretty well tailored with the progression of the difficulties. Also, you do need a decent Roster. Anyone who doesn't have sufficient Champs in each Class will have a much harder time.
Relax just so u know 90% of paragons can’t even benefit cuz they don’t have that good ot a roster
You don't need a good roster, they're TB level fights. You can use 5* champs.
This is just Valiant players getting lumped in with lower progressions once again, and it's ridiculous. We finally get our own thing and it doesn't even last beyond its first cycle. Insane. Access to monetary deals cannot continue to be to only true exclusivity that the most invested players in the game get. After a great last several months of moving in good directions, this decision is absolutely awful.
They're not that easy. They're pretty well tailored with the progression of the difficulties. Also, you do need a decent Roster. Anyone who doesn't have sufficient Champs in each Class will have a much harder time.
I actually agree with this, and as soon as I saw it announced.. my son's a new valiant, and when I helped him clear it, it was quite difficult for his roster, I had to use 5 stars, and he regularly gets into GC, it's tailored pretty well and I believe will actually show paragon players what's needed more by letting them try and struggle.. my account breezed through it though and I really enjoyed it, and thought rewards were great too
Who cares? Kabam has made it completely irrelevant. There is no rational reason to chase titles, you aren’t going to be locked out of anything is the message being received loud and clear.
Allowing paragons to play valiant gauntlet doesn't mean paragons will have an easy time getting through, in fact weak paragons are very likely to get stuck towards the end when they run out of strong champions of that class
They shouldn't even be able to have a hard time with it.
Allowing paragons to play valiant gauntlet doesn't mean paragons will have an easy time getting through, in fact weak paragons are very likely to get stuck towards the end when they run out of strong champions of that class
So what? They'll just revive through it. For a paragon account the rewards are massive and they will get them every month. All this does is help lazy paragons who can't be bothered to clear act 8.3 continue to not be bothered to clear act 8.3.
Kabam should want players to progress, not reward laziness.
Allowing paragons to play valiant gauntlet doesn't mean paragons will have an easy time getting through, in fact weak paragons are very likely to get stuck towards the end when they run out of strong champions of that class
So what? They'll just revive through it. For a paragon account the rewards are massive and they will get them every month. All this does is help lazy paragons who can't be bothered to clear act 8.3 continue to not be bothered to clear act 8.3.
Kabam should want players to progress, not reward laziness.
Exactly, its not about difficulty. What else is people using revives on anyway?.. The rewards are too big for Paragon and fair for Valiants. This "Player retention" strategy is getting out of hand. So anybody else feel like the charity Paragon route is comming soon? Have like what? 6 7r3s get instant Paragon or something?
Allowing paragons to play valiant gauntlet doesn't mean paragons will have an easy time getting through, in fact weak paragons are very likely to get stuck towards the end when they run out of strong champions of that class
So what? They'll just revive through it. For a paragon account the rewards are massive and they will get them every month. All this does is help lazy paragons who can't be bothered to clear act 8.3 continue to not be bothered to clear act 8.3.
Kabam should want players to progress, not reward laziness.
Exactly, its not about difficulty. What else is people using revives on anyway?.. The rewards are too big for Paragon and fair for Valiants. This "Player retention" strategy is getting out of hand. So anybody else feel like the charity Paragon route is comming soon? Have like what? 6 7r3s get instant Paragon or something?
Definitely coming. The gates going forward will be just Everest content, everything else in game is just a leveling of all titles. In a way I am glad this is so obvious, there will be zero extraordinary effort on my part to chase a new title.
If I recall correctly… years ago when they tested TB EQ they let UC players test it along with Cav players for data but when it was launched it was gate keeped by progression. As long as this follows that type of idea then I have no issue with it. But if they get access to the final format then valiant as a title was nothing more paragon+
I kind of feel they are going to do away with titles considering how they have recent events structured and now with radiance store being available to TB and up. Title may end up being just cosmetic. If they desire progression based events, they can always use levels.
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
It completely undermines the point of reaching valiant: To have the ability to receive the best rewards. I’m not upset that paragons will get great rewards, happy for them. But what was the point of grinding and completing difficult content if I can just access it at a lower progression level?
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
Yeah, for real, its not like valiants are getting less rewards from paragons being able to play idk what the need is for them to complain all they want is to feel special by a game
People tend to forget that progression is not content related anymore, it can be bought.
Actually its the other way around. That's why you still have TBs and Paragons with rosters too big for their progression... You can meet the champion rank requirements by buying stuff; but for some reason they are stuck somewhere in story mode
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
Yeah, for real, its not like valiants are getting less rewards from paragons being able to play idk what the need is for them to complain all they want is to feel special by a game
That's not the point. The point is that Valiant means nothing unless money is involved.
People tend to forget that progression is not content related anymore, it can be bought.
Actually its the other way around. That's why you still have TBs and Paragons with rosters too big for their progression... You can meet the champion rank requirements by buying stuff; but for some reason they are stuck somewhere in story mode
Not always. I think people have a tendency to generalize, but the progression markers are only rough estimates of where someone is at. Some have outgrown their position, sure. Some just haven't developed the skills or the patience to advance yet. Some are still building their Roster, and then there are fringe cases between. It's possible to anticipate that some *should* be able to do X and Y with efficiency, but that tends to be subjective because what's easy for us might not be easy for others.
People tend to forget that progression is not content related anymore, it can be bought.
Actually its the other way around. That's why you still have TBs and Paragons with rosters too big for their progression... You can meet the champion rank requirements by buying stuff; but for some reason they are stuck somewhere in story mode
Not always. I think people have a tendency to generalize, but the progression markers are only rough estimates of where someone is at. Some have outgrown their position, sure. Some just haven't developed the skills or the patience to advance yet. Some are still building their Roster, and then there are fringe cases between. It's possible to anticipate that some *should* be able to do X and Y with efficiency, but that tends to be subjective because what's easy for us might not be easy for others.
Yeah yeah fine, so those roster building, skill building, blah betty blah building people have the same chances to acquire rewards as the tier above... and the only thing that keeps on being repeated is "Well they don't have the roster..." So what is this then? Do we have to look at it as a trap from Kabam for Paragons to waste their revives and time on something they won't be able to finish? Do we have to assume they have the time and skill to finish this gaunlet but not act 7?... No matter how you look at it it doesn't make any sense.
I don't get why people worry about other people's business. If you're happy with Valiant EQ and its rewards that's all that should matter. Valiant's reward is that most can do it without much if any resources which is generally not the case for paragon players. For paragon players it's difficult content requiring resources decreasing the value of the rewards. Valiant's also get to do paragon gauntlet without exploring EQ. I'm happy with Val EQ and the more the merrier. We need more people excited to play not less. The only thing I will say and not for fairness but to keep people from being frustrated at not being able to complete the content is to make a paragon EQ similar to Val EQ. Who knows maybe they'll make all EQ like Val EQ since it's so popular.
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
Yeah, for real, its not like valiants are getting less rewards from paragons being able to play idk what the need is for them to complain all they want is to feel special by a game
That's not the point. The point is that Valiant means nothing unless money is involved.
ok so ur forgetting events like shields and things like reunion crystals and certain stores like bg which all had separate things for valiants
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
Yeah, for real, its not like valiants are getting less rewards from paragons being able to play idk what the need is for them to complain all they want is to feel special by a game
That's not the point. The point is that Valiant means nothing unless money is involved.
paragons can say the same thing as they are being grouped with thronebreakers alot so can cav players and so on.
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
Yeah, for real, its not like valiants are getting less rewards from paragons being able to play idk what the need is for them to complain all they want is to feel special by a game
That's not the point. The point is that Valiant means nothing unless money is involved.
ok so ur forgetting events like shields and things like reunion crystals and certain stores like bg which all had separate things for valiants
Again, you’re missing the point. All of those things you just listed are either sales events, or stores, purchasing things. Doesn’t matter if its in game currency or money. We’re talking about a game mode, a way to actually play the game.
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
Yeah, for real, its not like valiants are getting less rewards from paragons being able to play idk what the need is for them to complain all they want is to feel special by a game
That's not the point. The point is that Valiant means nothing unless money is involved.
ok so ur forgetting events like shields and things like reunion crystals and certain stores like bg which all had separate things for valiants
Again, you’re missing the point. All of those things you just listed are either sales events, or stores, purchasing things. Doesn’t matter if its in game currency or money. We’re talking about a game mode, a way to actually play the game.
well the valiant eq they are testing out aswell like they did with thronebreaker eq and if im not mistaken they let other progression levels test it out as well and for game mode i would like to say just because most game modes are open to paragon players dosent mean they have the skill to do them yet like epoch like ordeal and arent valiant players also getting wheel of fate
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
Yeah, for real, its not like valiants are getting less rewards from paragons being able to play idk what the need is for them to complain all they want is to feel special by a game
That's not the point. The point is that Valiant means nothing unless money is involved.
paragons can say the same thing as they are being grouped with thronebreakers alot so can cav players and so on.
Go ahead say the same thing. Its not Valiants fault Paragons are Paragons... Oh btw Valiants have been grouped with Paragons AND Thronebreakers...
This thread is so cringe. Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
Yeah, for real, its not like valiants are getting less rewards from paragons being able to play idk what the need is for them to complain all they want is to feel special by a game
That's not the point. The point is that Valiant means nothing unless money is involved.
paragons can say the same thing as they are being grouped with thronebreakers alot so can cav players and so on.
Go ahead say the same thing. Its not Valiants fault Paragons are Paragons... Oh btw Valiants have been grouped with Paragons AND Thronebreakers...
same with thronebreakers sometime grouped with uncollected and cavs
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Kabam should want players to progress, not reward laziness.
The rewards are too big for Paragon and fair for Valiants.
This "Player retention" strategy is getting out of hand. So anybody else feel like the charity Paragon route is comming soon? Have like what? 6 7r3s get instant Paragon or something?
Valiants getting upset about something that has no effect on them other than their need to feel special about being Valiant, which is just sad....
So what is this then? Do we have to look at it as a trap from Kabam for Paragons to waste their revives and time on something they won't be able to finish? Do we have to assume they have the time and skill to finish this gaunlet but not act 7?...
No matter how you look at it it doesn't make any sense.
Some content are gatekeep behind 7* gates, you can't use 6* even though 6* are still viable options
Some content are called Valiant Gauntlet but Paragons can enter
So what is Kabam thinking? Do Kabam want to restrict content or open up content to more players?
Oh btw Valiants have been grouped with Paragons AND Thronebreakers...