pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
People keep playing, people keep spending Kabam won't change till those change that simple. Why worry about a little backlash on forums when that will blow over just in time for everyone to spend on July 4th? We are hamsters.
Yeah another big mark between people. I understand compensation and can’t believe I am going to say this but for once it’s way too much. It was a week they lost. Not 6 months.
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
Did you really use getting arrested as an analogy for not being able to play a mobile game for 7 days? That’s absolutely asinine. The better analogy would be if the owner accused you of stealing and told you you’re not welcome back to his restaurant.
I don’t want to speak for others, but I think a majority of the pushback is due to the fact that kabam has never in their history been overly generous and this comp package takes overly generous to the next level; its so far out of the water it’s not even in the same ocean as others.
I am not a person who runs to the forum and asks for compensation for the game being broken but when the game has several issues for months (which kabam themselves has acknowledged) without so much as a single shard it makes you really question their compensation philosophy.
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
Did you really use getting arrested as an analogy for not being able to play a mobile game for 7 days? That’s absolutely asinine. The better analogy would be if the owner accused you of stealing and told you you’re not welcome back to his restaurant.
I don’t want to speak for others, but I think a majority of the pushback is due to the fact that kabam has never in their history been overly generous and this comp package takes overly generous to the next level; its so far out of the water it’s not even in the same ocean as others.
I am not a person who runs to the forum and asks for compensation for the game being broken but when the game has several issues for months (which kabam themselves has acknowledged) without so much as a single shard it makes you really question their compensation philosophy.
a business falsely accused a customer of something horrible and kicked them out. every sane business would go out of their way to make it right.
and they all got booted and lost war seasons rewards. if you're in gold 1 that's 30k radiance right there. plat 1 is 150k.
AND they missed raids. top 500 is another 20k radiance.
AND you can grind 2k units a week from the arena plus all the missing units from the daily super event and the monthly unit card.
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
I don’t want to speak for others, but I think a majority of the pushback is due to the fact that kabam has never in their history been overly generous and this comp package takes overly generous to the next level; its so far out of the water it’s not even in the same ocean as others.
Because there hasn't been false bans for three days before on this scale. Whenever there have been false bans, there was a very generous compensation given.
This is not similar to any other issue in game. Remember when nightmare raids was bugged and people were given the complete exploration rewards even if they wouldn't have been able to do it normally? Because that's how blanket compensation works.
It's not to make up for the lost days in gaming, but for the unfair punishment that was dealt out to innocent players that affects them in their credibility, mocked by other players etc.
Lol you guys are so jealous. The forums were a mess with people pissed and others making fun (guilty here). The only way to make up for that is make others wish they had been banned by mistake.
It’s far from jealousy, in fact the more power to the banned players. I’m just amazed at the decision to give the most generous compensation in history, when there are much more serious gameplay issues that affect the entire player with nothing being done. Good on the people that were lucky enough to get it, I would just love to hear an explanation from anyone at kabam at the reasoning behind units and radiance being included in a 1 week compensation package.
You keep on saying "in history", situation like this never happened before You keep on demanding explanation. Why? Who are you? Good for them they got stuff after being suspended, and ridiculed when asking for help. Good they got atuff big deal. You keep on saying 150 bucks worth, 150 bucks doesn't buy much this days. Unless you are like 10 and get a 10 dollar allowance a week.
1) I use the phrase in history because there is precedent for things much larger than this happening in game without units being included in compensation.
2) never demand anything. I said, “I would love to hear…” As for who I am, I’m a dedicated player that has played for the last 8 years and is probably in the top 2% of spenders.
3) I honestly couldn’t care what random people on a forum said about me. Ridicule me all you want and I won’t lose a minute of sleep over it.
4) if $150 is nothing to you, dm me and I’ll give you my Venmo/paypal/zelle and you can transfer me $150 since it’s basically nothing.
1- Name a situation that was worse than this. Than being banned for no reason 2- this seems pretty demanding to me, I mean someone losing a job? Rofl Oh yeah "I either want" is not demanding 🤡
3- Really? Are you sure? Cause you call people white knights when they disagree with you, seems that it bothers you. 4- Its not that much to spend on things I enjoy, I would probably enjoy more burning it than giving it to a cry baby.
Well let’s see, when the input system was broken system was severely broken for multiple months (this was a couple of years ago). If you want something more recent, how about the current dropped input, light intercepts, and ai issues that kabam has acknowledged but we have yet to receive a single shard as compensation for issues that have existed for months.
Obviously I don’t expect anyone to be fired, it was hyperbole. What I think the community is warranted is accountability and explanations. Do I expect it? No. Will I quit the game if I don’t get it? No. Do I have any way of demanding it? No. Do I think it’s warranted? Yes
Not insulted in the least. Come at me with everything you got, I’ve dealt with way worse and it’s water off a duck. If anything you seem to be a bit defensive about being called a white knight. Did I hit a nerve there?
Do it! You speak a big game, take a video with today’s date and your forum name with a pile of $150 on fire. Or are you all talk?
I’mma keep it a buck with you, those issues wouldn’t warrant such a huge compensation either. The damage is very hard to quantify considering how it affects different players differently.
But at the very least, they affect all players, unlike this situation where certain players are relatively disadvantaged compared to their peers. I presume that’s why this is bigger than any game-wide compensation we’ve ever gotten.
Plus, the stigma that came with the ban wave also needed to be compensated for, as a show of goodwill.
I don’t really get what you mean by wanting explanations and accountability though. Is the explanation they gave on the ban wave not enough?
Kabam shouldnt give this much units for false positives...it will be injustice towards good players in this game...either u should give all except banned player ...by units ...or else give false positives radiance glory and tokens...unit deal for 1 week ban making us jealous
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
I mean, I think this might be getting closer to the issue here. That restaurant owner would have a huge lawsuit on his hands, and being insanely apologetic and compensatory would be the only way to hope to avoid that. Maybe there is a similar issue here? Kabam hoping that this absurd compensation package smooths over any hurt feelings that might lead to legal issues? I have no idea...
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
I mean, I think this might be getting closer to the issue here. That restaurant owner would have a huge lawsuit on his hands, and being insanely apologetic and compensatory would be the only way to hope to avoid that. Maybe there is a similar issue here? Kabam hoping that this absurd compensation package smooths over any hurt feelings that might lead to legal issues? I have no idea...
No legal issues probably as they own accounts and we dont. And the comp is supposed to be an apology for unjust actions.
If kabam gives compensation to all players except banned players...then it will be a good message for hackers...otherwise giving this much compensation will divide players into two sections...
If kabam gives compensation to all players except banned players...then it will be a good message for hackers...otherwise giving this much compensation will divide players into two sections...
You are right. Under thousand unbanned players who got comp Vs 700,000 players with no bans.
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
I mean, I think this might be getting closer to the issue here. That restaurant owner would have a huge lawsuit on his hands, and being insanely apologetic and compensatory would be the only way to hope to avoid that. Maybe there is a similar issue here? Kabam hoping that this absurd compensation package smooths over any hurt feelings that might lead to legal issues? I have no idea...
No legal issues probably as they own accounts and we dont. And the comp is supposed to be an apology for unjust actions.
While I deal with a different area of the law than this, I do believe that a wrongful suspension affecting paying players can trigger consumer protection concerns, and that Kabam's TOS can't always override consumer protections in certain US states and EU countries.
You guys keep digging in the restaurant example. 1- the customer at the restaurant didn't work on his apetite for x ammount of years 2- the customer didn't go in a group of 30 and missed out on the benefits of a group
The only problem with this compensation package is not that everyone is getting too much. Is that its not progression based. 4500 units before 4th might seem a lot, they got the 1st tier of usual 3k for free, get over it.
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
I mean, I think this might be getting closer to the issue here. That restaurant owner would have a huge lawsuit on his hands, and being insanely apologetic and compensatory would be the only way to hope to avoid that. Maybe there is a similar issue here? Kabam hoping that this absurd compensation package smooths over any hurt feelings that might lead to legal issues? I have no idea...
No legal issues probably as they own accounts and we dont. And the comp is supposed to be an apology for unjust actions.
While I deal with a different area of the law than this, I do believe that a wrongful suspension affecting paying players can trigger consumer protection concerns, and that Kabam's TOS can't always override consumer protections in certain US states and EU countries.
I don't know either. Can US laws work on Canadian company? We don't hear about lawsuits on kabam from players. I'd like to see some examples lol. That's how we practice law right?
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
This is a good analogy. Thank you for this. However, I do still think there’s one piece missing. The competitive aspect. Instead of dining, players/customers are competing. So it’s almost more like master chef the show. Imagine one of the contestants was wrongfully disqualified, they missed a challenge for an opportunity at immunity, then got properly brought back into the competition and was given some upgraded cookware and better ingredients. At the end of the day it matters who the best chef is in the competition, but is the playing field even?
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
This is a good analogy. Thank you for this. However, I do still think there’s one piece missing. The competitive aspect. Instead of dining, players/customers are competing. So it’s almost more like master chef the show. Imagine one of the contestants was wrongfully disqualified, they missed a challenge for an opportunity at immunity, then got properly brought back into the competition and was given some upgraded cookware and better ingredients. At the end of the day it matters who the best chef is in the competition, but is the playing field even?
So do you think everyone who purchases something needs to share it with every other Player because it's a competition? By that logic, no Account should have something others don't. A small number of Accounts that were wrongfully banned and got some compensation are not throwing off the balance of fairness in the competition. It's somewhat comical how creative people become to justify getting something as well when Kabam mentions compensation. There are certainly times when everyone deserves something. This isn't one of them. People who were falsely banned are being compensated. We might think it was too much, but Kabam apparently doesn't, and I don't think it's a democracy. Why can't we just be happy for people? Of all the complaining people do about Kabam not doing their part, chalk this one up to them coming through. We don't always have to have our eyes on everyone else's plate. That's not competition. That's being obsessively competitive.
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
This is a good analogy. Thank you for this. However, I do still think there’s one piece missing. The competitive aspect. Instead of dining, players/customers are competing. So it’s almost more like master chef the show. Imagine one of the contestants was wrongfully disqualified, they missed a challenge for an opportunity at immunity, then got properly brought back into the competition and was given some upgraded cookware and better ingredients. At the end of the day it matters who the best chef is in the competition, but is the playing field even?
Do yourself a favor and do not engage with the usual shills.
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
Did you really use getting arrested as an analogy for not being able to play a mobile game for 7 days? That’s absolutely asinine. The better analogy would be if the owner accused you of stealing and told you you’re not welcome back to his restaurant.
I don’t want to speak for others, but I think a majority of the pushback is due to the fact that kabam has never in their history been overly generous and this comp package takes overly generous to the next level; its so far out of the water it’s not even in the same ocean as others.
I am not a person who runs to the forum and asks for compensation for the game being broken but when the game has several issues for months (which kabam themselves has acknowledged) without so much as a single shard it makes you really question their compensation philosophy.
a business falsely accused a customer of something horrible and kicked them out. every sane business would go out of their way to make it right.
and they all got booted and lost war seasons rewards. if you're in gold 1 that's 30k radiance right there. plat 1 is 150k.
AND they missed raids. top 500 is another 20k radiance.
AND you can grind 2k units a week from the arena plus all the missing units from the daily super event and the monthly unit card.
do the math man, these guys got screwed.
You're automatically assuming all those accounts were Valiant, what about all the TBs and Paragons getting 30k radiance who never would've been able to get that much radiance out of Raids or war? What do you think that does to their accounts lol
If kabam gives compensation to all players except banned players...then it will be a good message for hackers...otherwise giving this much compensation will divide players into two sections...
You are right. Under thousand unbanned players who got comp Vs 700,000 players with no bans.
We are fighting against hackers not against good loyal players...kabam has no problem in giving some people compensation... we common people also equally responsible for growth of company...they should also show us some affection.. I personally think this is huge compensation....even though they are banned incorrectly..for 3 days...it's feels like they all enjoying free gifts without even playing...we play day and night and they treat us like nothing ...it's not acceptable... I can't do anything...but if this is their attitude...then no issues..they just lost my loyalty...
For those who says why other people need compensation...I want to tell them...these ban waves have also effected them...I remember this ban waves hit when we are in middle of aw...our 2 members hit by ban waves ..1 person got un ban in 3 days...other still had no clue why he got banned...he said he downloaded game from playstore... What I want to say is we were forced to lose that war because of this ban..I think many of our alliance also has faced similar situation...because u know how new aw work.. Banning incorrectly has effected in aw...bg team score...and if we fall below aw teir..then it will effect our radiance.... so we are not asking any favour...if they giving huge compensation...we also deserve ...
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
Did you really use getting arrested as an analogy for not being able to play a mobile game for 7 days? That’s absolutely asinine. The better analogy would be if the owner accused you of stealing and told you you’re not welcome back to his restaurant.
I don’t want to speak for others, but I think a majority of the pushback is due to the fact that kabam has never in their history been overly generous and this comp package takes overly generous to the next level; its so far out of the water it’s not even in the same ocean as others.
I am not a person who runs to the forum and asks for compensation for the game being broken but when the game has several issues for months (which kabam themselves has acknowledged) without so much as a single shard it makes you really question their compensation philosophy.
a business falsely accused a customer of something horrible and kicked them out. every sane business would go out of their way to make it right.
and they all got booted and lost war seasons rewards. if you're in gold 1 that's 30k radiance right there. plat 1 is 150k.
AND they missed raids. top 500 is another 20k radiance.
AND you can grind 2k units a week from the arena plus all the missing units from the daily super event and the monthly unit card.
do the math man, these guys got screwed.
You're automatically assuming all those accounts were Valiant, what about all the TBs and Paragons getting 30k radiance who never would've been able to get that much radiance out of Raids or war? What do you think that does to their accounts lol
run y'all! a few hundred paragons are going to combine their scraps of radiance to destroy the planet.
pretend you're eating at a fancy restaurant minding your own business and the owner falsely accuses you of something, calls the cops, and they come and handcuff you in front of everyone and throw you jail.
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
Did you really use getting arrested as an analogy for not being able to play a mobile game for 7 days? That’s absolutely asinine. The better analogy would be if the owner accused you of stealing and told you you’re not welcome back to his restaurant.
I don’t want to speak for others, but I think a majority of the pushback is due to the fact that kabam has never in their history been overly generous and this comp package takes overly generous to the next level; its so far out of the water it’s not even in the same ocean as others.
I am not a person who runs to the forum and asks for compensation for the game being broken but when the game has several issues for months (which kabam themselves has acknowledged) without so much as a single shard it makes you really question their compensation philosophy.
a business falsely accused a customer of something horrible and kicked them out. every sane business would go out of their way to make it right.
and they all got booted and lost war seasons rewards. if you're in gold 1 that's 30k radiance right there. plat 1 is 150k.
AND they missed raids. top 500 is another 20k radiance.
AND you can grind 2k units a week from the arena plus all the missing units from the daily super event and the monthly unit card.
do the math man, these guys got screwed.
You're automatically assuming all those accounts were Valiant, what about all the TBs and Paragons getting 30k radiance who never would've been able to get that much radiance out of Raids or war? What do you think that does to their accounts lol
run y'all! a few hundred paragons are going to combine their scraps of radiance to destroy the planet.
I mean you can joke about it all you want but 30k radiance for a Paragon will do a lot, even more for TBs. Your argument is that they missed out, no they didn't cause would never get that high in the first place.
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Following Kabam form I expect a 3rd blunder from them compensating those who didn’t get banned…
when the owner realizes his mistake and tries to make amends, he's not just compensating you for that dinner, he's going way above and beyond that like every sane owner would.
stop being envious of your fellow players who were wrongly banned. kabam did the right thing and the comped players deserve it.
I don’t want to speak for others, but I think a majority of the pushback is due to the fact that kabam has never in their history been overly generous and this comp package takes overly generous to the next level; its so far out of the water it’s not even in the same ocean as others.
I am not a person who runs to the forum and asks for compensation for the game being broken but when the game has several issues for months (which kabam themselves has acknowledged) without so much as a single shard it makes you really question their compensation philosophy.
and they all got booted and lost war seasons rewards. if you're in gold 1 that's 30k radiance right there. plat 1 is 150k.
AND they missed raids. top 500 is another 20k radiance.
AND you can grind 2k units a week from the arena plus all the missing units from the daily super event and the monthly unit card.
do the math man, these guys got screwed.
This is not similar to any other issue in game. Remember when nightmare raids was bugged and people were given the complete exploration rewards even if they wouldn't have been able to do it normally? Because that's how blanket compensation works.
It's not to make up for the lost days in gaming, but for the unfair punishment that was dealt out to innocent players that affects them in their credibility, mocked by other players etc.
But at the very least, they affect all players, unlike this situation where certain players are relatively disadvantaged compared to their peers. I presume that’s why this is bigger than any game-wide compensation we’ve ever gotten.
Plus, the stigma that came with the ban wave also needed to be compensated for, as a show of goodwill.
I don’t really get what you mean by wanting explanations and accountability though. Is the explanation they gave on the ban wave not enough?
That restaurant owner would have a huge lawsuit on his hands, and being insanely apologetic and compensatory would be the only way to hope to avoid that.
Maybe there is a similar issue here? Kabam hoping that this absurd compensation package smooths over any hurt feelings that might lead to legal issues? I have no idea...
And the comp is supposed to be an apology for unjust actions.
Under thousand unbanned players who got comp
Vs 700,000 players with no bans.
1- the customer at the restaurant didn't work on his apetite for x ammount of years
2- the customer didn't go in a group of 30 and missed out on the benefits of a group
The only problem with this compensation package is not that everyone is getting too much. Is that its not progression based.
4500 units before 4th might seem a lot, they got the 1st tier of usual 3k for free, get over it.
We don't hear about lawsuits on kabam from players.
I'd like to see some examples lol. That's how we practice law right?
A small number of Accounts that were wrongfully banned and got some compensation are not throwing off the balance of fairness in the competition. It's somewhat comical how creative people become to justify getting something as well when Kabam mentions compensation. There are certainly times when everyone deserves something. This isn't one of them. People who were falsely banned are being compensated. We might think it was too much, but Kabam apparently doesn't, and I don't think it's a democracy. Why can't we just be happy for people? Of all the complaining people do about Kabam not doing their part, chalk this one up to them coming through. We don't always have to have our eyes on everyone else's plate. That's not competition. That's being obsessively competitive.
Also, your analogy is spot on by the way.
we common people also equally responsible for growth of company...they should also show us some affection..
I personally think this is huge compensation....even though they are banned incorrectly..for 3 days...it's feels like they all enjoying free gifts without even playing...we play day and night and they treat us like nothing ...it's not acceptable...
I can't do anything...but if this is their attitude...then no issues..they just lost my loyalty...
What I want to say is we were forced to lose that war because of this ban..I think many of our alliance also has faced similar situation...because u know how new aw work..
Banning incorrectly has effected in aw...bg team score...and if we fall below aw teir..then it will effect our radiance....
so we are not asking any favour...if they giving huge compensation...we also deserve ...