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Medusa or Scream

summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,208 ★★★
edited June 28 in General Discussion
Who do u guys think is a better attacker defender everything in my opinion it’s scream she does everything Medusa does but better and has more utility the only thing that scream lacks is armor shatter but I’d like to see what u think.

Medusa or Scream 100 votes

Scream
25%
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Medusa
75%
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  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,208 ★★★
    Scream
    Scream has bleeds and armor break can counter non contact attacks can counter auto block has regen can hard counter spider verse champs can increase block profficency reduce armor ability accuracy has energize can increase block pen she has infuriate and can have unblockable sp2 that’s what I consider more utility
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,208 ★★★
    Scream
    BeastDad said:

    Both.

    But Medusa is easier to use.

    Yea Medusa is a more simple champ
  • spiderknight616spiderknight616 Member Posts: 826 ★★★
    edited June 28
    Medusa
    Medusa for sure. Scream is also awesome and mine is R3 but mainly bc I don't have 7 star Medusa, although my 6 star is R5 awakened
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 284 ★
    Scream
    Scream is the better character but Medusa is soo easy to use that Scream just gets easily left out, Scream has soo many rotation and can do soo much damage that finish fights in basicly one S2

    But why worry about what rotation to use instead of just MM,MM into S1 and just spam basics till S2?
  • GilbertoJuniorGilbertoJunior Member Posts: 284 ★
    Scream
    EdisonLaw said:

    Red-haired lady > orange haired alien

    Wait,which is which?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,301 ★★★★★
    Medusa
    GilbertoJunior said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    Red-haired lady > orange haired alien

    Wait,which is which?
    It's really funny cuz medusa is an alien 5oo
  • hungryhungrybbqhungryhungrybbq Member Posts: 2,622 ★★★★★
    Medusa
    Hey, play who you like.. 100%
    But imo, The notion that Scream is better is a product of newer champ hype.. Medusa is just far more effective and will gladly do a DPS challenge any time with her against Scream
    Requiring more complicated gameplay doesn't make a Scream better, the payout just doesn't surpass what Medusa can do more fluidly
    Scream has one thing Medusa doesn't have and that's the latest version of autoblock mitigation.. required for newer champs, but "required" is actually not imo.. I rarely fight Arcade, for example, with a "counter", etc.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,301 ★★★★★
    edited June 28
    Medusa
    hungryhungrybbq said:

    Hey, play who you like.. 100%
    But imo, The notion that Scream is better is a product of newer champ hype.. Medusa is just far more effective and will gladly do a DPS challenge any time with her against Scream
    Requiring more complicated gameplay doesn't make a Scream better, the payout just doesn't surpass what Medusa can do more fluidly
    Scream has one thing Medusa doesn't have and that's the latest version of autoblock mitigation.. required for newer champs, but "required" is actually not imo.. I rarely fight Arcade, for example, with a "counter", etc.

    Medusa can actually nuke out similar rank arcades, Ive done it multiple times. Just have to play ultra defensive to throw a sp1, and sp2 without baiting his specials, and use the stun to throw a combo and finish him off. Works me most of the time and if you feel it's risky then you can bait 1 sp1 and still can nuke him out.

    Scream don't even have reliable undermine like vox it only last for 5 secs and it's quite tough to maintain. Scream's damage output is slightly better than medusa but the difference is negligible for bg level matchups. Although scream counters zola better than dusa.

  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,208 ★★★
    Scream
    captain_rogers said:

    hungryhungrybbq said:

    Hey, play who you like.. 100%
    But imo, The notion that Scream is better is a product of newer champ hype.. Medusa is just far more effective and will gladly do a DPS challenge any time with her against Scream
    Requiring more complicated gameplay doesn't make a Scream better, the payout just doesn't surpass what Medusa can do more fluidly
    Scream has one thing Medusa doesn't have and that's the latest version of autoblock mitigation.. required for newer champs, but "required" is actually not imo.. I rarely fight Arcade, for example, with a "counter", etc.

    Medusa can actually nuke out similar rank arcades, Ive done it multiple times. Just have to play ultra defensive to throw a sp1, and sp2 without baiting his specials, and use the stun to throw a combo and finish him off. Works me most of the time and if you feel it's risky then you can bait 1 sp1 and still can nuke him out.

    Scream don't even have reliable undermine like vox it only last for 5 secs and it's quite tough to maintain. Scream's damage output is slightly better than medusa but the difference is negligible for bg level matchups. Although scream counters zola better than dusa.

    its not that tough to maintain undermine
  • TikkaMasalaTikkaMasala Member Posts: 724 ★★★
    Is Scream worth investing in if you already have R3 awakened Medusa? Or better to use the resources on different champs?
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,208 ★★★
    Scream
    TikkaMasala said:

    Is Scream worth investing in if you already have R3 awakened Medusa? Or better to use the resources on different champs?

    who are your other options to rank up
  • RobobotRobobot Member Posts: 87 ★
    edited June 28
    Scream
    Honestly I'd say they are the on the same level. Medusa and scream have very similar kits similar utility damage and they are both decent defenders. To be honest I like scream better cuz she is faster on bgs (only by a few seconds tho) and very fun to play.
  • MrSanguiniMrSanguini Member Posts: 148 ★★
    Medusa


    Medusa’s a better defender.

    She also has more consistent offensive utility- evade and autoblock counter and vs Scream’s autoblock counter and evade counter only against spiderverse champs.

    Plus Medusa does more damage (I haven’t seen Scream ever do a ROL fight in under 20 seconds),

    All with an easier and flexible rotation.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,740 Guardian
    edited June 28
    Medusa
    TikkaMasala said:

    Is Scream worth investing in if you already have R3 awakened Medusa? Or better to use the resources on different champs?

    Depends if you want a r3 scream for that Arcade in Wheel of Fate quest 1.

    I personally find myself using Medusa a lot more than Scream, even though I got both at r3, and it has been a long time since I decided to draft scream in BGs.
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,208 ★★★
    Scream
    MrSanguini said:



    Medusa’s a better defender.

    She also has more consistent offensive utility- evade and autoblock counter and vs Scream’s autoblock counter and evade counter only against spiderverse champs.

    Plus Medusa does more damage (I haven’t seen Scream ever do a ROL fight in under 20 seconds),

    All with an easier and flexible rotation.

    medusa is not a better defender and screams autoblock counter is not against only spiderverse champs
  • MrSanguiniMrSanguini Member Posts: 148 ★★
    Medusa
    summerdeer said:

    MrSanguini said:



    Medusa’s a better defender.

    She also has more consistent offensive utility- evade and autoblock counter and vs Scream’s autoblock counter and evade counter only against spiderverse champs.

    Plus Medusa does more damage (I haven’t seen Scream ever do a ROL fight in under 20 seconds),

    All with an easier and flexible rotation.

    medusa is not a better defender and screams autoblock counter is not against only spiderverse champs
    I know, I meant she has autoblock counter, but her evade counter is only against spiderverse champs.

    But Medusa is easily a better defender. Without autoblock counter or neutralize, you can’t stop her autoblock. Scream can be taken by anyone so long as you don’t let her trigger the autoblock via heavy. Also, Scream’s damage comes from the SP2 burst, so getting punished by her will not hit anywhere near as hard as Medusa, who will mess you up if she gets a combo in.
  • TheMostHated1TheMostHated1 Member Posts: 125 ★
    Medusa
    Medusa
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,208 ★★★
    Scream
    MrSanguini said:

    summerdeer said:

    MrSanguini said:



    Medusa’s a better defender.

    She also has more consistent offensive utility- evade and autoblock counter and vs Scream’s autoblock counter and evade counter only against spiderverse champs.

    Plus Medusa does more damage (I haven’t seen Scream ever do a ROL fight in under 20 seconds),

    All with an easier and flexible rotation.

    medusa is not a better defender and screams autoblock counter is not against only spiderverse champs
    I know, I meant she has autoblock counter, but her evade counter is only against spiderverse champs.

    But Medusa is easily a better defender. Without autoblock counter or neutralize, you can’t stop her autoblock. Scream can be taken by anyone so long as you don’t let her trigger the autoblock via heavy. Also, Scream’s damage comes from the SP2 burst, so getting punished by her will not hit anywhere near as hard as Medusa, who will mess you up if she gets a combo in.
    screams autoblock counter is better against champs like arcade while medusa's in not got and autoblock from medusa can easily be punished imo while agains scream its harder screams basic attacks also do decent amounts of damage
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,301 ★★★★★
    Medusa
    Look if you wanna rank up scream go rank her up. Why make a post asking who's better and aggressively attacking anyone who's not saying the answer you expected? If you think scream is better than medusa then let it be. You ain't gonna convince others, okay? Just like how you're entitled to your opinion everyone else is. It's one thing to debate which champ is better it's another thing to make an entire post in disguise just to prove your point and if you're gonna defend scream atleast do it right wtf you mean by "Medusa is not a better defender" like bro you really think scream better than medusa on defense. Medusa is OBJECTIVELY better than scream and there's not debate on that
  • MrSanguiniMrSanguini Member Posts: 148 ★★
    Medusa
    summerdeer said:

    MrSanguini said:

    summerdeer said:

    MrSanguini said:



    Medusa’s a better defender.

    She also has more consistent offensive utility- evade and autoblock counter and vs Scream’s autoblock counter and evade counter only against spiderverse champs.

    Plus Medusa does more damage (I haven’t seen Scream ever do a ROL fight in under 20 seconds),

    All with an easier and flexible rotation.

    medusa is not a better defender and screams autoblock counter is not against only spiderverse champs
    I know, I meant she has autoblock counter, but her evade counter is only against spiderverse champs.

    But Medusa is easily a better defender. Without autoblock counter or neutralize, you can’t stop her autoblock. Scream can be taken by anyone so long as you don’t let her trigger the autoblock via heavy. Also, Scream’s damage comes from the SP2 burst, so getting punished by her will not hit anywhere near as hard as Medusa, who will mess you up if she gets a combo in.
    screams autoblock counter is better against champs like arcade while medusa's in not got and autoblock from medusa can easily be punished imo while agains scream its harder screams basic attacks also do decent amounts of damage
    Dawg it’s pretty simple.

    Does Scream need a specific piece of utility to beat her comfortably? No. You can do a whole fight and never see her Autoblock.

    Does Medusa? Yes. Without neutralize or autoblock counter, Medusa WILL parry you and WILL hit you very, very hard.

    Here’s a stray medium attack from R3 Medusa in AW, with no nodes boosting her damage:



    It’s from a Sweadah video. Pretty easy to find considering how people actually use Medusa on AW defense, unlike Scream.
  • RobobotRobobot Member Posts: 87 ★
    Scream
    MrSanguini said:



    Medusa’s a better defender.

    She also has more consistent offensive utility- evade and autoblock counter and vs Scream’s autoblock counter and evade counter only against spiderverse champs.

    Plus Medusa does more damage (I haven’t seen Scream ever do a ROL fight in under 20 seconds),

    All with an easier and flexible rotation.

    Medusa does more damage but scream takes more and harder defenders in top speed with minimal effort,even matchups that aren't ideal for her can be 37 seconds long on bgs. Medusa is a better defender but not by much since she gets abused by mystics and you can work around her Auto block. (I still don't get why people use the ROL argument, it's an unboosted champ with 0 defensive utility and no sp3 so you can play as aggressive as you want it proves nothing).
  • MrSanguiniMrSanguini Member Posts: 148 ★★
    Medusa
    Robobot said:

    MrSanguini said:



    Medusa’s a better defender.

    She also has more consistent offensive utility- evade and autoblock counter and vs Scream’s autoblock counter and evade counter only against spiderverse champs.

    Plus Medusa does more damage (I haven’t seen Scream ever do a ROL fight in under 20 seconds),

    All with an easier and flexible rotation.

    Medusa does more damage but scream takes more and harder defenders in top speed with minimal effort,even matchups that aren't ideal for her can be 37 seconds long on bgs. Medusa is a better defender but not by much since she gets abused by mystics and you can work around her Auto block. (I still don't get why people use the ROL argument, it's an unboosted champ with 0 defensive utility and no sp3 so you can play as aggressive as you want it proves nothing).
    ROL is just to showcase damage, no one said it was for anything else. It proves that A champ has better DPS than B champ, that's all. Labyrinth and Abyss have damage caps that make them harder to work with, but I still got faster times with Medusa on Starlord and Abyss IM than any Scream I've seen.
    Scream takes Peni and Arcade where Medusa can't, and Medusa takes Bullseye and Sentinel where Scream can't, but for all their overlapping defenders, Medusa does them faster.

    And Medusa is a better defender by a mile. No counter, you lose. No counter to Scream really doesn't mean anything.
  • summerdeersummerdeer Member Posts: 1,208 ★★★
    Scream
    captain_rogers said:

    Look if you wanna rank up scream go rank her up. Why make a post asking who's better and aggressively attacking anyone who's not saying the answer you expected? If you think scream is better than medusa then let it be. You ain't gonna convince others, okay? Just like how you're entitled to your opinion everyone else is. It's one thing to debate which champ is better it's another thing to make an entire post in disguise just to prove your point and if you're gonna defend scream atleast do it right wtf you mean by "Medusa is not a better defender" like bro you really think scream better than medusa on defense. Medusa is OBJECTIVELY better than scream and there's not debate on that

    im not attacking anyone im saying why i think scream is better like some people are doing to medusa but ok
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 2,174 ★★★★★
    Medusa
    I have both at R3, hardly use Scream. Medusa is so much better and more simple to use.
  • RobobotRobobot Member Posts: 87 ★
    edited June 28
    Scream
    MrSanguini said:

    Robobot said:

    MrSanguini said:



    Medusa’s a better defender.

    She also has more consistent offensive utility- evade and autoblock counter and vs Scream’s autoblock counter and evade counter only against spiderverse champs.

    Plus Medusa does more damage (I haven’t seen Scream ever do a ROL fight in under 20 seconds),

    All with an easier and flexible rotation.

    Medusa does more damage but scream takes more and harder defenders in top speed with minimal effort,even matchups that aren't ideal for her can be 37 seconds long on bgs. Medusa is a better defender but not by much since she gets abused by mystics and you can work around her Auto block. (I still don't get why people use the ROL argument, it's an unboosted champ with 0 defensive utility and no sp3 so you can play as aggressive as you want it proves nothing).
    ROL is just to showcase damage, no one said it was for anything else. It proves that A champ has better DPS than B champ, that's all. Labyrinth and Abyss have damage caps that make them harder to work with, but I still got faster times with Medusa on Starlord and Abyss IM than any Scream I've seen.
    Scream takes Peni and Arcade where Medusa can't, and Medusa takes Bullseye and Sentinel where Scream can't, but for all their overlapping defenders, Medusa does them faster.

    And Medusa is a better defender by a mile. No counter, you lose. No counter to Scream really doesn't mean anything.
    Medusa doesn't need a counter tho, it's the same situation for spider woman when people assume a defender is hard because you need a counter for the simplest fights. You can work around auto block with parry. Also the matchups points is just no. Scream can do Zola photon onslaught red skull peni arcade and sinister faster when played right (also enchantress if she doesn't start with a purple spell but that's unreliable). Medusa can also take those fights (most at least) but is slower than scream (not by a lot but it is noticable amount.) In general Medusa is better but in bgs scream is more dominant and that's enough for me.
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