AW Manipulation Condoned
DTMelodicMetal
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What’s the reason that all but one tier 1 AW alliance who reported difficulties with finding matchups had their concerns shut down? Why is it acceptable for an inflated war rating caused by avoiding matchups with other top war rated alliances for years by only trying to find matchups after other top war rated alliances founds matchups to qualify that alliance for rewards they haven’t earned?
The lesson here is avoid the best of the best for years, then when you have trouble playing the best of the best because you can’t hide anymore, raise objectives and you will receive rewards you have not earned. I’m unable to see how this benefits the player community as a whole, the message here is actions do not have consequences.
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The lesson here is avoid the best of the best for years, then when you have trouble playing the best of the best because you can’t hide anymore, raise objectives and you will receive rewards you have not earned. I’m unable to see how this benefits the player community as a whole, the message here is actions do not have consequences.
This post has followed all forum rules and has not called out any specific player or alliance. Please try to keep the comments constructive so it has a chance to contribute something positive to the player community.
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http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/51407/regarding-alliance-wars-matchmaking#latest
Now that rewards are available for winning matches, and these guys have such a high rating that no other alliance can match them, they are at a disadvantage because they can't get minimum matches required for reward.
To me it seems like they have done this to themselves, yet Kabam is happy to reward such behaviour. Just goes to show Kabam is a money hungry organisation and listen to the whales, not the rest of the players who make this game popular. Time to rate this game 1* to show them that the majority of players need to be listened to.
You’re missing the point. An inflated war rating is understandable if that alliance ran 3 wars per week and didn’t intentionally avoid other top war rated alliances. It’s common knowledge among veteran and top war alliance players that this alliance ran 2 wars per week and intentionally sought matches after other top war rated alliances had already been matched. Again, the lesson here is actions do not have consequences. If you cause your alliance war rating to be inflated by intentionally avoiding certain opponents and only running 2 wars a week for 1-2 years, you should deal with the consequences accordingly.
I guess this holds true for MCOC whales.
this was not just with them. and it was reported by others. Don't speak on others behalf
You're compounding issues here. I don't disagree that those things are wrong, but if it's within the rules, there's nothing that can be done. It would take changing them to address them.
That would be awesome, if that’s the case I missed that announcement. It’s unfortunate that that was the least important point made on in this thread, it would be great to hear reasonable answers about the other points made.
Sometimes it takes longer, and that's not what happened. The Ally started searching the second Matchmaking opened, and it ended without them finding a Match. Not that they had to wait longer. They didn't find a Match the entire time Matchmaking was opened. This is becoming a springboard for other issues.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/53916/aw-matching#latest
You’re still missing the point. Other alliances had the exact same issue as the alliance described in the above hyperlink. All of the other alliances had their requests denied. It’s more constructive to the player community when threads are addressed in their entirety, focusing on only one or two points made distracts people from the overall message.
This isnt about waiting. The one I know for a fact, they searched right away, and got a match several hours later. The match time was not as long as this alliance's, but the match time then put their second search later, and their third search time an hour before cutoff, and they didnt find a third match. so by having those longer match times, they didnt find a third match.
"it took hours more to find an Alliance to match with."
Directly from their post. not that it ended. that it took hours more to find an alliance to match with
Okay lets take a few situations.
Situation A:
This alliance. A full cycle of 3 missed wars due to matchmaking not finding a match. We'll ignore the other issues around WHY their rating was high and it took awhile. So due to the existing system, it extended their wait time.
Situation B:
Another alliance has long overall wait times, but gets two wars in. Just misses a third war. I know this happened to several alliances, just due to the typical matchmaking.
Situation C:
Due to long wait times, alliance gets one war during the entire matchmaking period.
Only Situation A requires attention? Only situation A requires something to fix it? All 3 of these situations happened, and they only choose to deal with one alliance. Have not even acknowledged helping any of the others.
Do you play in a tier 1-3 AW alliance, or do you know players who have for some time? Not trying to put you on the defensive here, I’m asking questions to try to understand where you’re coming from. Making comments and assumptions based on secondary sources can lead to misunderstandings and inaccurate perspectives. It is generally much easier to offer opinions on what others say rather than consider multiple points of view that differ from our own because learning that our own perspectives are invalid is not something enjoyable to consider.
Multiple players have made comments with primary sources that confirm other alliances have missed out on AW matchups. An exception should apply to all alliances who missed out on AW matchups for the reason that was detailed by moderators.
Since the change, it has taken less than a minute to match us with allys that have much larger war ratings than ours, with every war. Since the change we have been severely outmatched ever time. But this is ok? Doesn’t matter if any other ally is matched unfairly due to the broken system? As long as 1 is getting what they want?
As far as I am concearned, the current system is screwing many other allys out of prizes and effecting their season in a negative way.
The system was working before, very few complaints. Now all of a sudden it wasn’t working for 1 ally so they changed it? What an absolute joke!
Kabam you have done a whaley good job here. Whether or not you believe you are correct and have whaley done the right thing, you have whaley caused alot of issues. There were some people that long believed you treat the whales differently to the bulk of your player place. Now you have whaley extended that to a larger portion of your playerbase.
It is not cool.
Makes me think that if i open my wallet i will get everything i want in the game....
But behaviour like this makes me want to close my wallet even tighter....
What shuts Threads down is calling people out with their experience. We're discussing a topic. Not what Tier I'm in.
Trying to accomplish what I said in the OP by keeping this thread constructive. Players other than myself have provided evidence with specific details that are worth considering and further discussing. If that evidence is not disproved it’s more than likely relevant to this thread’s topic.