Tier 4 Class Catalysts: fixing the bottleneck

Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
I have seen posts from Alliance and non-Alliance players who are negatively effected by the bottleneck.
What would be the best way to alleviate this without ruining the game?
(If you are in a massive Alliance with infinite amounts of Glory, please ignore this poll)

Tier 4 Class Catalysts: fixing the bottleneck 68 votes

Tier 4 CC daily quest gives 1/4 of a catalyst for 100% completion
17%
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T4CC daily quest gives a full catalyst for 100% completion
11%
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T4CC full catalysts in Master Level Event Quests
23%
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Increase the value of selling T3CC
16%
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Reduce the amount required for rank ups
7%
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Option 1 or 2, plus 3
7%
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Option 1 or 2, plus 3 and 4
1%
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all of the above
14%
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Comments

  • Samspade23Samspade23 Member Posts: 549 ★★
    I feel that the drop rates in AQ should just be bumped a few thousand points and full catalysts should be offered more readily for 100 percent completion of master quests.
  • allinashesallinashes Member Posts: 855 ★★★
    T4cc is definitely not a bottleneck in this game. If they are for you, you just haven't gotten to that point yet and will eventually

    Agreed. Maybe 2 years ago it was but they are so much more readily available nowadays. And I'm not in a giant alliance either.

    My bottlenecks are t5b and to a lesser extent t2a and t1a. Those are a bear to get enough of.

  • mum_m2mum_m2 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★
    i think it's a bottle neck resource, but as an end game player the issue for me isn't t4CC, it's gold. I have a huge amount of T4CC just sitting in my stash and I can't use them because I don't have the gold required to take any of them up. I do enough arena, I do all of the EQs, I just apparently can't handle money.
  • Romo790Romo790 Member Posts: 142
    An increase to the rank rewards in the class catalyst clash would be nice. I'm not saying hand out a thousand but 25 makes me sad. Lol. The cutoff is over 6 million which also makes me sad and I'm normally a happy dude lol
  • dkatryldkatryl Member Posts: 672 ★★★
    edited October 2018
    a full t4cc for completion of the class cata arena milestones is the obvious solution.
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    The biggest bottleneck in this game is alphas, both T1 and T2. T1 isn’t quite as bad anymore with the arena, SA, and glory store revamps, but T2A comes by so slowly. I feel it’s about time to start making. Them a little more available.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,844 Guardian
    T4cc is definitely not a bottleneck in this game. If they are for you, you just haven't gotten to that point yet and will eventually

    To be precise, T4CC used to be the final bottleneck. Everyone eventually ran into it, and there was no escaping it. Now, T4CC is a temporary bottleneck just like everything else is for some players at certain progress levels. But above a certain point, the bottleneck actually becomes things worth ranking up, and lower resources like T4B and T1A, and those bottlenecks are much "softer" than the T4CC bottleneck used to be because you can earn those at much higher rates (it is just that you have to spend them at equally high rates).
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,186 ★★★★★
    None of the above but the calendar should have one every month and I'd like more shard crystals or a decent whack of shards as rewards in Master.

    I have never earned any T4cc of any type from my laid back alliance, everything has come from exploring master, calendars and special events.

    I'm sitting on 20 full cats in inventory just waiting for the right champs, it doesn't seem that long ago that I was heavily restricted by not having any.

    I would rather see an arena with an appropriate fixed cutoff for a full cat, we have one for T4B and T1A and everyone has access to it regardless of roster or alliance activity.
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  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    T4CC daily quest gives a full catalyst for 100% completion
    I can get enough T4B and T1a to rank up several champs a month.
    As soon as they hit 4/40, they are stuck.
    It takes about 4 months to get a one T4CC through the weekly arena.
    Need 3 to rank one champ, so one year for one champ.
    Glory is a better route, but I cannot get into a power Alliance until my champs are 5/50.
    Epic quests are great, but near impossible for 4/40 unduped characters.
  • VoluntarisVoluntaris Member Posts: 1,198 ★★★
    If I could give you some of my 65 full t4cc crystals, I would.
  • kimjongrodmankimjongrodman Member Posts: 12
    all of the above
    I literally have 7 t1 alphas sitting in my overflow, and i've only ever gotten 1 t4cc in this game. for me it's a huge bottleneck, i've got 12 4* 4/40 champs, none i can bring to 5/50 because of t4cc. maybe i'm in a crappy alliance or something, because i can't get them to save my life.
  • Romo790Romo790 Member Posts: 142
    Voluntaris wrote: »
    If I could give you some of my 65 full t4cc crystals, I would.

    I will take that deal! Kabam please make this happen..... lol
  • AxeCopFireAxeCopFire Member Posts: 1,115 ★★★
    How come there isn't a "none of the above" option since t4ccs aren't a bottleneck in any fashion?
  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    T4CC daily quest gives a full catalyst for 100% completion
    For those whose coffers are overflowing with T4CC, please let the rest of us know how you are getting them.

  • doom722doom722 Member Posts: 99
    Well, they drop every now and then now. We had to wait a lot to get the flow going.
    Use right strategies, do quests which give you t4cc. Build a decent roster with that. Then, join a map5 alliance, get target practice, fight good and work your way up from there. For most of us players it has been like that and I don't think there's any other way unless you got the cash!
  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    T4CC daily quest gives a full catalyst for 100% completion
    Thank you for the information.
    My 5 man Alliance will be a very slow grind for t4cc.

    Large Alliances are having problems finding 5/50 people (discussions are on these message boards).
    I understand why they have a 5/50 minimum to join.
    There is a huge pool of 4/40 topped out Summoners.

    Fixing the bottleneck would help.
  • RagamugginGunnerRagamugginGunner Member Posts: 2,210 ★★★★★
    t2a and t5b are the main bottlenecks in this game. Then t4b, then t1a, then t4c.
  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    T4CC daily quest gives a full catalyst for 100% completion
    I understand restricting t2a and t5b, as they are end game content.
    Ranking a 4 star, in the 5 and 6 star era, should not be heavily restricted.
    T4b - 2 glory purchases = full catalyst
    T1a- 1 glory purchase = full catalyst
    T4cc- have been using glory exclusively for this for a few weeks and have completed one (keep getting shards evenly spread among the 6 types).

    I am in a small Alliance, so Glory comes slowly.
    Big Alliances need 5/50 champs.
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  • SIlverProfessorSIlverProfessor Member Posts: 515 ★★
    The real bottleneck is with T2A.
  • BadroseBadrose Member Posts: 779 ★★★
    Verzz wrote: »
    It really depends on where in the game you are. T4cc used to be a huge bottleneck for me but now I have probably a dozen full cat crystals unopened and about 2k t4cc fragment crystals I can't open or will go into overflow. My bottleneck right now is definitely T2A, T5B, gold, champs worth to use those resources, and to a smaller extent t4b and t1a. T4cc is an afterthought and I am burning them by bringing all 5* champs to r3 whenever I have t4b and t1a expiring to try and keep an even progression.

    That's probably because, as you said, you don't have enough T2A and T5B and you are not ranking (useless) champs since months or weeks. The day you'll get the necessary resources, T4CC will disappear in a heartbeat.
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  • AxeCopFireAxeCopFire Member Posts: 1,115 ★★★
    Denslo500 wrote: »
    For those whose coffers are overflowing with T4CC, please let the rest of us know how you are getting them.

    AQ map 5 + An alliance with good prestige and active players
  • borntohulaborntohula Member Posts: 447 ★★★
    edited October 2018
    Out of skill after I took KM to rank 5. These things aren’t a bottleneck. They used to be, sure. There are so many options now though. Many mentioned already. Also, don’t rank champs you won’t use.

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  • NamelezNamelez Member Posts: 992 ★★★
    T4CC full catalysts in Master Level Event Quests
    Honestly I pull over 4 a month but 1 from master would be cool also t2 alpha is a bottleneck not T4CC
  • Vdh2008Vdh2008 Member Posts: 966 ★★★★
    No option to vote: "There is no bottleneck from T4CC"
  • Vdh2008Vdh2008 Member Posts: 966 ★★★★
    Denslo500 wrote: »
    For those whose coffers are overflowing with T4CC, please let the rest of us know how you are getting them.

    Become "uncollected" and they will rain from the sky...

    Seriously, though... after you get uncollected, you earn them faster through EQ and daily crystals, etc.
  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    T4CC daily quest gives a full catalyst for 100% completion
    Thank you for the suggestions.
    They all generally require 4* 5/50 or 5* 3/35 to access, which is unattainable without T4CC.

    Will keep grinding or quit game.
    Very hard to justify the effort for what is now mid-game content.
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