How would these god tier champs rank unduped?

StanceStance Posts: 167
edited November 2018 in General Discussion
These champs are considered god tier when duped, but how would they be ranked when unduped?

Archangel
Omega Red
Ghost Rider
Doctor Voodoo
Blade
Medusa
Hyperion
Stardlord
Void

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  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,684 ★★★★
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void
  • ŁŤÇŁŤÇ Posts: 43
    Dont know hardly anything of OR, so disregard him.

    All others are still legit. I know Fear is important, as I have Void at 5-65, but he still has good DOT and an insane health pool.

    Blade is Blade, just minus regen.

    AA still gets neuro
  • StanceStance Posts: 167
    edited November 2018
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void

    What tier would they be in?
  • issamaf80issamaf80 Posts: 1,133 ★★★
    Stance wrote: »
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void

    What tier would they be in?

    Low Demi
  • FhfjghhggggjfhfjgFhfjghhggggjfhfjg Posts: 2,969 ★★★★
    Stance wrote: »
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void

    What tier would they be in?

    Whatever tier u want them to be in
  • StanceStance Posts: 167
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void
    chunkyb wrote: »
    I'll never understand this tier thing. What does it tell you as far as game play goes? That a youtuber would give you an atta boy if you ranked them?

    As far as who's worth the rank unduped... Kinda depends on what rank, preference, synergy, path, etc. But I wouldn't hesitate to rank rider, blade, void, hype, Medusa if they fit into my roster or needs.

    I thought the tiering was based on their utility and how useful they would be in questing etc?
  • FlareDogeFlareDoge Posts: 182
    edited November 2018
    Stance wrote: »
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void
    chunkyb wrote: »
    I'll never understand this tier thing. What does it tell you as far as game play goes? That a youtuber would give you an atta boy if you ranked them?

    As far as who's worth the rank unduped... Kinda depends on what rank, preference, synergy, path, etc. But I wouldn't hesitate to rank rider, blade, void, hype, Medusa if they fit into my roster or needs.

    I thought the tiering was based on their utility and how useful they would be in questing etc?

    Tiering is just based on how good they are overall so if a character can basicly do any node but had no damage they would be low demi if it had some damage it would probably be high demi if it had a respectable ammount of damage it would be god teir Same thing goes for damage high damage but no utility high demi (Bar SL his damage is amazing duped) Damage usually is more important than utility but utility still matters take hulk rag Amazing damage but almost no utility the utility he does have is so good that when activated he would be a god teir
  • JayCeeJayCee Posts: 733 ★★
    This tier thing goes through one ear and out the other. Allow me to use a fallout analogy to make the point of it being completely pointless. A pipe pistol is useless against a deathclaw to a noob, however, a pro could kill a deathclaw with their fists if they wanted to. It’s not about the champions, it’s about how you use them. Hopefully the analogy helped. If not I’ll go a different game next time.
  • FlareDogeFlareDoge Posts: 182
    edited November 2018
    JayCee wrote: »
    This tier thing goes through one ear and out the other. Allow me to use a fallout analogy to make the point of it being completely pointless. A pipe pistol is useless against a deathclaw to a noob, however, a pro could kill a deathclaw with their fists if they wanted to. It’s not about the champions, it’s about how you use them. Hopefully the analogy helped. If not I’ll go a different game next time.

    Oh yea LOL X23 With a Collosus
    Jesus same thing every time also try taking in a kammala khan a civil warrior and a Xforce DP to alliance war watch how fast your alliance kicks you i'll wait
  • Alpha07Alpha07 Posts: 649 ★★
    edited November 2018
    I'll use Seatin's tier list names just as reference:

    -Archangel would fit in the Amazing or Low Demi God tier. I mean, Unduped he doesn't have the AAR or the Heal block mechanic but he has that inmense damage though the disadvantage will always be Immune champs. That's why idk if he belongs in ''Amazing'' or ''Low Demi God''.

    -Ghost Rider I think he still would be ''God tier'' to an bit lesser degree, though he will lack the damage source he still has the huge utility we love him for.

    -Doctor Voodoo would fit in the ''Occasionally Useful'' tier, he Unduped he's much less reliable but his abilities kinda work (to an leeser degree) though, not bad but not good either.

    -Blade Unduped is ''High Demi God'' IMO, he still has the utility we love him for but he lacks that regeneration that imo I find to be very useful.

    -Medusa I'll say she is High Demi God, still has the utility and damage but gains a lot more if she's duped.

    -Hyperion's fury stacking Unduped is harder and somewhat less reliable to do, so I think he belongs in ''High Demi God'' as well. not sure though if God or Demi-god tbh.

    -Star Lord would be something in between ''Borderline Bench'' and ''Meme'' tiers, because though he is no better than Iron Man, FlixDD, Vulture, etc... he isn't as bad as Shulk, Groot or Colossus. he still has the element thing on specials and the fury he gains per hit. SL relies on his sig, maybe even more than DV.

    Idk much Void and Omega Red so can't comment on them.
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Posts: 2,581 ★★★★
    Omega red will be low demi god tier as his damage output is considerably lower
  • My issue w these tiers is that they're completely subjective and give a lot of players the completely wrong idea about a lot of things. Same with the "who's worth awakening" lists. Usually, it all comes down to who they have and who they like... Or even who fits their unique play style.

    You can learn a lot from yters, and most of us have done so at one point or another. But I'd advise limiting that to fight techniques and champ abilities. Going beyond that, especially when it comes to using valuable resources on your roster, can be a huge mistake. I've seen the tier breakdowns and a good bit of it is just laughable. Some people should have a "for entertainment purposes only" disclaimer flashing at the bottom of the video.
  • StanceStance Posts: 167
    JayCee wrote: »
    This tier thing goes through one ear and out the other. Allow me to use a fallout analogy to make the point of it being completely pointless. A pipe pistol is useless against a deathclaw to a noob, however, a pro could kill a deathclaw with their fists if they wanted to. It’s not about the champions, it’s about how you use them. Hopefully the analogy helped. If not I’ll go a different game next time.

    Understood, but not all of us are skilled enough to complete LOL using Collosus, so we need some extra utilities.
    Alpha07 wrote: »
    I'll use Seatin's tier list names just as reference:

    -Archangel would fit in the Amazing or Low Demi God tier. I mean, Unduped he doesn't have the AAR or the Heal block mechanic but he has that inmense damage though the disadvantage will always be Immune champs. That's why idk if he belongs in ''Amazing'' or ''Low Demi God''.

    -Ghost Rider I think he still would be ''God tier'' to an bit lesser degree, though he will lack the damage source he still has the huge utility we love him for.

    -Doctor Voodoo would fit in the ''Occasionally Useful'' tier, he Unduped he's much less reliable but his abilities kinda work (to an leeser degree) though, not bad but not good either.

    -Blade Unduped is ''High Demi God'' IMO, he still has the utility we love him for but he lacks that regeneration that imo I find to be very useful.

    -Medusa I'll say she is High Demi God, still has the utility and damage but gains a lot more if she's duped.

    -Hyperion's fury stacking Unduped is harder and somewhat less reliable to do, so I think he belongs in ''High Demi God'' as well. not sure though if God or Demi-god tbh.

    -Star Lord would be something in between ''Borderline Bench'' and ''Meme'' tiers, because though he is no better than Iron Man, FlixDD, Vulture, etc... he isn't as bad as Shulk, Groot or Colossus. he still has the element thing on specials and the fury he gains per hit. SL relies on his sig, maybe even more than DV.

    Idk much Void and Omega Red so can't comment on them.

    Thanks Alpha07, this is what i was after. Very informative.


  • Alpha07Alpha07 Posts: 649 ★★
    Stance wrote: »
    JayCee wrote: »
    This tier thing goes through one ear and out the other. Allow me to use a fallout analogy to make the point of it being completely pointless. A pipe pistol is useless against a deathclaw to a noob, however, a pro could kill a deathclaw with their fists if they wanted to. It’s not about the champions, it’s about how you use them. Hopefully the analogy helped. If not I’ll go a different game next time.

    Understood, but not all of us are skilled enough to complete LOL using Collosus, so we need some extra utilities.


    Imagine someone trying to defeat an LOL opponent using Colossus. Even if it was 6* R5 Colossus sig 200 and the enrage time was 2x longer he wouldn't still make it lol.
  • Alpha07 wrote: »
    I'll use Seatin's tier list names just as reference:

    -Archangel would fit in the Amazing or Low Demi God tier. I mean, Unduped he doesn't have the AAR or the Heal block mechanic but he has that inmense damage though the disadvantage will always be Immune champs. That's why idk if he belongs in ''Amazing'' or ''Low Demi God''.

    -Ghost Rider I think he still would be ''God tier'' to an bit lesser degree, though he will lack the damage source he still has the huge utility we love him for.

    -Doctor Voodoo would fit in the ''Occasionally Useful'' tier, he Unduped he's much less reliable but his abilities kinda work (to an leeser degree) though, not bad but not good either.

    -Blade Unduped is ''High Demi God'' IMO, he still has the utility we love him for but he lacks that regeneration that imo I find to be very useful.

    -Medusa I'll say she is High Demi God, still has the utility and damage but gains a lot more if she's duped.

    -Hyperion's fury stacking Unduped is harder and somewhat less reliable to do, so I think he belongs in ''High Demi God'' as well. not sure though if God or Demi-god tbh.

    -Star Lord would be something in between ''Borderline Bench'' and ''Meme'' tiers, because though he is no better than Iron Man, FlixDD, Vulture, etc... he isn't as bad as Shulk, Groot or Colossus. he still has the element thing on specials and the fury he gains per hit. SL relies on his sig, maybe even more than DV.

    Idk much Void and Omega Red so can't comment on them.

    Impressive somehow everything there was incorrect
  • StanceStance Posts: 167
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    Alpha07 wrote: »
    I'll use Seatin's tier list names just as reference:

    -Archangel would fit in the Amazing or Low Demi God tier. I mean, Unduped he doesn't have the AAR or the Heal block mechanic but he has that inmense damage though the disadvantage will always be Immune champs. That's why idk if he belongs in ''Amazing'' or ''Low Demi God''.

    -Ghost Rider I think he still would be ''God tier'' to an bit lesser degree, though he will lack the damage source he still has the huge utility we love him for.

    -Doctor Voodoo would fit in the ''Occasionally Useful'' tier, he Unduped he's much less reliable but his abilities kinda work (to an leeser degree) though, not bad but not good either.

    -Blade Unduped is ''High Demi God'' IMO, he still has the utility we love him for but he lacks that regeneration that imo I find to be very useful.

    -Medusa I'll say she is High Demi God, still has the utility and damage but gains a lot more if she's duped.

    -Hyperion's fury stacking Unduped is harder and somewhat less reliable to do, so I think he belongs in ''High Demi God'' as well. not sure though if God or Demi-god tbh.

    -Star Lord would be something in between ''Borderline Bench'' and ''Meme'' tiers, because though he is no better than Iron Man, FlixDD, Vulture, etc... he isn't as bad as Shulk, Groot or Colossus. he still has the element thing on specials and the fury he gains per hit. SL relies on his sig, maybe even more than DV.

    Idk much Void and Omega Red so can't comment on them.

    Impressive somehow everything there was incorrect

    Really hmmm

    Please share your opinion.
  • FooshblalalaFooshblalala Posts: 277 ★★
    Alpha07 wrote: »
    I'll use Seatin's tier list names just as reference:

    -Archangel would fit in the Amazing or Low Demi God tier. I mean, Unduped he doesn't have the AAR or the Heal block mechanic but he has that inmense damage though the disadvantage will always be Immune champs. That's why idk if he belongs in ''Amazing'' or ''Low Demi God''.

    -Ghost Rider I think he still would be ''God tier'' to an bit lesser degree, though he will lack the damage source he still has the huge utility we love him for.

    -Doctor Voodoo would fit in the ''Occasionally Useful'' tier, he Unduped he's much less reliable but his abilities kinda work (to an leeser degree) though, not bad but not good either.

    -Blade Unduped is ''High Demi God'' IMO, he still has the utility we love him for but he lacks that regeneration that imo I find to be very useful.

    -Medusa I'll say she is High Demi God, still has the utility and damage but gains a lot more if she's duped.

    -Hyperion's fury stacking Unduped is harder and somewhat less reliable to do, so I think he belongs in ''High Demi God'' as well. not sure though if God or Demi-god tbh.

    -Star Lord would be something in between ''Borderline Bench'' and ''Meme'' tiers, because though he is no better than Iron Man, FlixDD, Vulture, etc... he isn't as bad as Shulk, Groot or Colossus. he still has the element thing on specials and the fury he gains per hit. SL relies on his sig, maybe even more than DV.

    Idk much Void and Omega Red so can't comment on them.

    AA unduped still is easily high Demi.
    Doctor Voodoo would fit into amazing tier.
    Medusa would fit into low demi
    Hyperion would still be god
    Agree with the others
  • OneManArmyOneManArmy Posts: 1,886 ★★★★
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    Stance wrote: »
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void
    chunkyb wrote: »
    I'll never understand this tier thing. What does it tell you as far as game play goes? That a youtuber would give you an atta boy if you ranked them?

    As far as who's worth the rank unduped... Kinda depends on what rank, preference, synergy, path, etc. But I wouldn't hesitate to rank rider, blade, void, hype, Medusa if they fit into my roster or needs.

    I thought the tiering was based on their utility and how useful they would be in questing etc?

    Tiering is just based on how good they are overall so if a character can basicly do any node but had no damage they would be low demi if it had some damage it would probably be high demi if it had a respectable ammount of damage it would be god teir Same thing goes for damage high damage but no utility high demi (Bar SL his damage is amazing duped) Damage usually is more important than utility but utility still matters take hulk rag Amazing damage but almost no utility the utility he does have is so good that when activated he would be a god teir

    Serious question then @Flaredoge. What am i missing with hulk rag? Miniboss fights in aw often takes me like 80+ hits. My red hulk takes the very same foe with similar rating and same node in like 20-30. Both r1 6*
  • OneManArmy wrote: »
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    Stance wrote: »
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void
    chunkyb wrote: »
    I'll never understand this tier thing. What does it tell you as far as game play goes? That a youtuber would give you an atta boy if you ranked them?

    As far as who's worth the rank unduped... Kinda depends on what rank, preference, synergy, path, etc. But I wouldn't hesitate to rank rider, blade, void, hype, Medusa if they fit into my roster or needs.

    I thought the tiering was based on their utility and how useful they would be in questing etc?

    Tiering is just based on how good they are overall so if a character can basicly do any node but had no damage they would be low demi if it had some damage it would probably be high demi if it had a respectable ammount of damage it would be god teir Same thing goes for damage high damage but no utility high demi (Bar SL his damage is amazing duped) Damage usually is more important than utility but utility still matters take hulk rag Amazing damage but almost no utility the utility he does have is so good that when activated he would be a god teir

    Serious question then @Flaredoge. What am i missing with hulk rag? Miniboss fights in aw often takes me like 80+ hits. My red hulk takes the very same foe with similar rating and same node in like 20-30. Both r1 6*

    Double damage and 70% health back on degen nodes if thats what you mean nice pulls though
  • OneManArmyOneManArmy Posts: 1,886 ★★★★
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    OneManArmy wrote: »
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    Stance wrote: »
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void
    chunkyb wrote: »
    I'll never understand this tier thing. What does it tell you as far as game play goes? That a youtuber would give you an atta boy if you ranked them?

    As far as who's worth the rank unduped... Kinda depends on what rank, preference, synergy, path, etc. But I wouldn't hesitate to rank rider, blade, void, hype, Medusa if they fit into my roster or needs.

    I thought the tiering was based on their utility and how useful they would be in questing etc?

    Tiering is just based on how good they are overall so if a character can basicly do any node but had no damage they would be low demi if it had some damage it would probably be high demi if it had a respectable ammount of damage it would be god teir Same thing goes for damage high damage but no utility high demi (Bar SL his damage is amazing duped) Damage usually is more important than utility but utility still matters take hulk rag Amazing damage but almost no utility the utility he does have is so good that when activated he would be a god teir

    Serious question then @Flaredoge. What am i missing with hulk rag? Miniboss fights in aw often takes me like 80+ hits. My red hulk takes the very same foe with similar rating and same node in like 20-30. Both r1 6*

    Double damage and 70% health back on degen nodes if thats what you mean nice pulls though

    Yeah i can see his uses for starburst. But tried him against dormy as aw boss and timed out with dormy at just under 50% still. Even tho rulk does take degen dmg i still usually get that one shot with him well in time unless i screw up ofc. What do you mean by double dmg? And thanks my other 6* are yondu and hela. I realise my luck with all those 4 pulls x)
  • OneManArmy wrote: »
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    OneManArmy wrote: »
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    Stance wrote: »
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void
    chunkyb wrote: »
    I'll never understand this tier thing. What does it tell you as far as game play goes? That a youtuber would give you an atta boy if you ranked them?

    As far as who's worth the rank unduped... Kinda depends on what rank, preference, synergy, path, etc. But I wouldn't hesitate to rank rider, blade, void, hype, Medusa if they fit into my roster or needs.

    I thought the tiering was based on their utility and how useful they would be in questing etc?

    Tiering is just based on how good they are overall so if a character can basicly do any node but had no damage they would be low demi if it had some damage it would probably be high demi if it had a respectable ammount of damage it would be god teir Same thing goes for damage high damage but no utility high demi (Bar SL his damage is amazing duped) Damage usually is more important than utility but utility still matters take hulk rag Amazing damage but almost no utility the utility he does have is so good that when activated he would be a god teir

    Serious question then @Flaredoge. What am i missing with hulk rag? Miniboss fights in aw often takes me like 80+ hits. My red hulk takes the very same foe with similar rating and same node in like 20-30. Both r1 6*

    Double damage and 70% health back on degen nodes if thats what you mean nice pulls though

    Yeah i can see his uses for starburst. But tried him against dormy as aw boss and timed out with dormy at just under 50% still. Even tho rulk does take degen dmg i still usually get that one shot with him well in time unless i screw up ofc. What do you mean by double dmg? And thanks my other 6* are yondu and hela. I realise my luck with all those 4 pulls x)

    The other part of the fight me passive (the degen part) Gives him an attack rating bonus the same as his base attack rating
  • OneManArmyOneManArmy Posts: 1,886 ★★★★
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    OneManArmy wrote: »
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    OneManArmy wrote: »
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    Stance wrote: »
    All still god tier except SL, voodoo and void
    chunkyb wrote: »
    I'll never understand this tier thing. What does it tell you as far as game play goes? That a youtuber would give you an atta boy if you ranked them?

    As far as who's worth the rank unduped... Kinda depends on what rank, preference, synergy, path, etc. But I wouldn't hesitate to rank rider, blade, void, hype, Medusa if they fit into my roster or needs.

    I thought the tiering was based on their utility and how useful they would be in questing etc?

    Tiering is just based on how good they are overall so if a character can basicly do any node but had no damage they would be low demi if it had some damage it would probably be high demi if it had a respectable ammount of damage it would be god teir Same thing goes for damage high damage but no utility high demi (Bar SL his damage is amazing duped) Damage usually is more important than utility but utility still matters take hulk rag Amazing damage but almost no utility the utility he does have is so good that when activated he would be a god teir

    Serious question then @Flaredoge. What am i missing with hulk rag? Miniboss fights in aw often takes me like 80+ hits. My red hulk takes the very same foe with similar rating and same node in like 20-30. Both r1 6*

    Double damage and 70% health back on degen nodes if thats what you mean nice pulls though

    Yeah i can see his uses for starburst. But tried him against dormy as aw boss and timed out with dormy at just under 50% still. Even tho rulk does take degen dmg i still usually get that one shot with him well in time unless i screw up ofc. What do you mean by double dmg? And thanks my other 6* are yondu and hela. I realise my luck with all those 4 pulls x)

    The other part of the fight me passive (the degen part) Gives him an attack rating bonus the same as his base attack rating

    Hmm weird have not noticed that when fighting mephisto for example. Tought i had given him enough tries and read his abilities quite well but guess not
  • Alpha07Alpha07 Posts: 649 ★★
    edited November 2018
    Alpha07 wrote: »
    I'll use Seatin's tier list names just as reference:

    -Archangel would fit in the Amazing or Low Demi God tier. I mean, Unduped he doesn't have the AAR or the Heal block mechanic but he has that inmense damage though the disadvantage will always be Immune champs. That's why idk if he belongs in ''Amazing'' or ''Low Demi God''.

    -Ghost Rider I think he still would be ''God tier'' to an bit lesser degree, though he will lack the damage source he still has the huge utility we love him for.

    -Doctor Voodoo would fit in the ''Occasionally Useful'' tier, he Unduped he's much less reliable but his abilities kinda work (to an leeser degree) though, not bad but not good either.

    -Blade Unduped is ''High Demi God'' IMO, he still has the utility we love him for but he lacks that regeneration that imo I find to be very useful.

    -Medusa I'll say she is High Demi God, still has the utility and damage but gains a lot more if she's duped.

    -Hyperion's fury stacking Unduped is harder and somewhat less reliable to do, so I think he belongs in ''High Demi God'' as well. not sure though if God or Demi-god tbh.

    -Star Lord would be something in between ''Borderline Bench'' and ''Meme'' tiers, because though he is no better than Iron Man, FlixDD, Vulture, etc... he isn't as bad as Shulk, Groot or Colossus. he still has the element thing on specials and the fury he gains per hit. SL relies on his sig, maybe even more than DV.

    Idk much Void and Omega Red so can't comment on them.

    AA unduped still is easily high Demi.
    Doctor Voodoo would fit into amazing tier.
    Medusa would fit into low demi
    Hyperion would still be god
    Agree with the others

    I found AA to be Low demi because he's way less reliable when Bleed/Poison immunes exist and he only has damage going for him Unduped. if it weren't for that he could easily be put in High Demi.

    What's your reasoning for DV? I mean, he's not very reliable unduped (not saying he's bad, just very relying on RNG).

    I could agree with the Medusa rating. Hyperion was the one I had the most hard choice along with AA since he's beastly indeed but the furies don't last as long if he's Unduped so there's that. still has the cool utilities so God tier wouldn't be far fetched.
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    Alpha07 wrote: »
    I'll use Seatin's tier list names just as reference:

    -Archangel would fit in the Amazing or Low Demi God tier. I mean, Unduped he doesn't have the AAR or the Heal block mechanic but he has that inmense damage though the disadvantage will always be Immune champs. That's why idk if he belongs in ''Amazing'' or ''Low Demi God''.

    -Ghost Rider I think he still would be ''God tier'' to an bit lesser degree, though he will lack the damage source he still has the huge utility we love him for.

    -Doctor Voodoo would fit in the ''Occasionally Useful'' tier, he Unduped he's much less reliable but his abilities kinda work (to an leeser degree) though, not bad but not good either.

    -Blade Unduped is ''High Demi God'' IMO, he still has the utility we love him for but he lacks that regeneration that imo I find to be very useful.

    -Medusa I'll say she is High Demi God, still has the utility and damage but gains a lot more if she's duped.

    -Hyperion's fury stacking Unduped is harder and somewhat less reliable to do, so I think he belongs in ''High Demi God'' as well. not sure though if God or Demi-god tbh.

    -Star Lord would be something in between ''Borderline Bench'' and ''Meme'' tiers, because though he is no better than Iron Man, FlixDD, Vulture, etc... he isn't as bad as Shulk, Groot or Colossus. he still has the element thing on specials and the fury he gains per hit. SL relies on his sig, maybe even more than DV.

    Idk much Void and Omega Red so can't comment on them.

    Impressive somehow everything there was incorrect

    lol why. Where would you place these champs then?
    FlareDoge wrote: »
    JayCee wrote: »
    This tier thing goes through one ear and out the other. Allow me to use a fallout analogy to make the point of it being completely pointless. A pipe pistol is useless against a deathclaw to a noob, however, a pro could kill a deathclaw with their fists if they wanted to. It’s not about the champions, it’s about how you use them. Hopefully the analogy helped. If not I’ll go a different game next time.

    Oh yea LOL X23 With a Collosus
    Jesus same thing every time also try taking in a kammala khan a civil warrior and a Xforce DP to alliance war watch how fast your alliance kicks you i'll wait

    just wanted to say that plz don't put CW in the same boat as these two at least he can Power control.
  • StanceStance Posts: 167
    edited November 2018
    Alpha07 wrote: »

    -Star Lord would be something in between ''Borderline Bench'' and ''Meme'' tiers, because though he is no better than Iron Man, FlixDD, Vulture, etc... he isn't as bad as Shulk, Groot or Colossus. he still has the element thing on specials and the fury he gains per hit. SL relies on his sig, maybe even more than DV.

    Surprisingly SL is borderline bench ☹️
  • Alpha07Alpha07 Posts: 649 ★★
    ^
    SL has almost nothing going for him Unduped so don't be surprised lol.
  • This is why the "tiers" are dumb. Instead of talking about certain champs' usefulness in different game modes and fights... You're arguing about made up categories that don't matter in any way.

    Sorry if that comes off as rude. Really not meaning to be. It's all just silly.
  • StanceStance Posts: 167
    Alpha07 wrote: »
    ^
    SL has almost nothing going for him Unduped so don't be surprised lol.

    I thought he would at least hit harder than IM
  • Alpha07Alpha07 Posts: 649 ★★
    edited November 2018
    @chunkyb
    These categories can help on determining if these champions are good on certain contents, specific content or on nothing at all. if they are good on lots of things or nothing, or on specific content overall you can determine champions' usefulness/tier.

    Ghost Rider/Hyperion are rated as ''God tiers'' because both can do almost everything in this game, both very sustainable, good utility and one of them got a lot of damage.

    X-23, Symbiote Spiderman got lots of things (Damage, Regen on X23, being more useful via masteries and countering lots of new champs like IMIW, KM, Emma, etc in Spidey's case) but utility wise they lack much compared to High Demis/Gods so there's why Low Demi-God tier exists.

    Amazing tier is on the middle, they can have high damage or decent utility and lack the other.

    On the other hand, Ronan is an ''Occasionally Useful'' champ from Seatin's perspective because even though he steamrolls some of the content in the game, on the rest he's not very useful at all. Same you can say about Loki.

    Iron Man can be called an ''Borderline Bench'' because he's almost useless but he has some regeneration going for him. he's sustainable though lots of champions can do this better so that's why he's there. He's good if you don't have any other option.

    Characters like Shulk and Colossus are ''Memes'' because they are good in nothing. No utilities or at the very least damage whatsoever.

    Though an ''True''' tier list isn't possible since at least someone would disagree on something you say so it's based on personal preference.

    @Stance
    The damage difference between Unduped SL and IM isn't THAT much even if we count the fury. IM has the regeneration going for him, he's a very sustainable champ so imo that's why I consider him much better than Unduped SL.
  • Alpha07 wrote: »
    @chunkyb
    These categories can help on determining if these champions are good on certain contents, specific content or on nothing at all. if they are good on lots of things or nothing, or on specific content overall you can determine champions' usefulness/tier.

    Ghost Rider/Hyperion are rated as ''God tiers'' because both can do almost everything in this game, both very sustainable, good utility and one of them got a lot of damage.

    X-23, Symbiote Spiderman got lots of things (Damage, Regen on X23, being more useful via masteries and countering lots of new champs like IMIW, KM, Emma, etc in Spidey's case) but utility wise they lack much compared to High Demis/Gods so there's why Low Demi-God tier exists.

    Amazing tier is on the middle, they can have high damage or decent utility and lack the other.

    On the other hand, Ronan is an ''Occasionally Useful'' champ from Seatin's perspective because even though he steamrolls some of the content in the game, on the rest he's not very useful at all. Same you can say about Loki.

    Iron Man can be called an ''Borderline Bench'' because he's almost useless but he has some regeneration going for him. he's sustainable though lots of champions can do this better so that's why he's there. He's good if you don't have any other option.

    Characters like Shulk and Colossus are ''Memes'' because they are good in nothing. No utilities or at the very least damage whatsoever.

    Though an ''True''' tier list isn't possible since at least someone would disagree on something you say so it's based on personal preference.

    @Stance
    The damage difference between Unduped SL and IM isn't THAT much even if we count the fury. IM has the regeneration going for him, he's a very sustainable champ so imo that's why I consider him much better than Unduped SL.

    I mean... Thanks? But no, man. No. Just no. Nuh uh. Nope. No way. Play more and watch him less. Like none. Zero.
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