Winning or loosing 80 hits to two.
Spicyslicer
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I think the ai needs tweaking. This is getting frustrating and unfun. When there is nothing I can do to get the ai to trigger their special attack and you lose because the ai is so rediculously over powered is becoming very stale.
To go from winning 20 fights in a row to hitting a wall at 90 mph. Not fun.
Please I don't need to win 20 in a row and I'm not asking to make it 40 wins in a row. But please for the love of,video games.... to got from 20 in a row easy and at 21 it being insanely hard maybe some gradation or smoothing out is necessary....
Thoughts?
To go from winning 20 fights in a row to hitting a wall at 90 mph. Not fun.
Please I don't need to win 20 in a row and I'm not asking to make it 40 wins in a row. But please for the love of,video games.... to got from 20 in a row easy and at 21 it being insanely hard maybe some gradation or smoothing out is necessary....
Thoughts?
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15 is quite safe, but 21 is where you are truly safe.
For example, for the Catalyst clash arena, at streak 15 , you can start bringing 4* 4/40s without risk of getting insane'ed, but bringing 4* 3/30 may get you insane'ed (sometimes). It's only at streak 21 where 4* 3/30 are definitely safe to bring.
Yes the AI have lower PI after 20 Vs but they block ALL specials you use on them mid combo or anywhere else in my experience, they insta everything, do the steamroller thing the new AI loves to do, where you literally cannot swipe left quick enough to avoid anything but a heavy, special,combo train.
The guy has a point, there are freaks that can beat any AI any time, but they are just that. The vast majority can't, and though I get why, to be confronted with a matchup that is literally unwinnable unless you are an alien is a little unjustified in my view.
Then that's an issue of skill. If you have the right champions after 21 and you don't get insane'ed, yet you still lose, then it's your fighting skills that are the problem.
Sure, the AI after 21 is sort of harder than before 21. Hence, you need to learn their patterns so that you can outsmart them. Parry them often if you can, do MLLL then special instead of a fully fledged 5 hit combo then a special to avoid them blocking your specials, etc.
One thing that seems a bit off with your comment is the fact you said "The vast majority can't, and though I get why, to be confronted with a matchup that is literally unwinnable unless you are an alien is a little unjustified in my view.
". Where exactly are you getting this info from? Because from what I know, most people are able to maintain an infinite streak if they are capable of getting to 21 in the first place, and it isn't hard to maintain it unless you don't fight well or you slack due to fatigue. You don't need to be an alien to beat the AI...
The AI after 20 is hilariously predictable, easy to bait and beat. If you seriously think arena after streak 20 is hard perhaps you should find an easier game. Arena is literally the easiest **** there is
Have a look at normal players profiles none of them have streaks over 15. That is the level I am at. My best was a lucky 40. It is possible but after 20 yes my game skills are not good enough, but to say it's easy is arrogant, stupid and rather petulant.
Ignition was easy every player would be able to do it, and the vast majority cannot.
I have looked at dozens of profiles of users like me, level 30 key, 35k rating, and very very few have streaks over 15.
That's a fact.
As for the AI difficulty level, practice dueling top players as that is comparable to what you'll face match 21 onwards.
Learn to play before complaining over ridiculous things.
Also, the reason many at Lv40ish have low streaks is probably because they earn more points by breaking streak on purpose or hey just don't do arena
Then those players should not be trying to go on an infinite streak. Instead focus on ranking up your rosters to get the champions and skill necessary.
If you can't get past fight 18 or so, you shouldn't be trying to go on an infinite streak. It means you either lack the champions necessary or you do not have the skill. It is nothing for top players, easy for above average players, and it is moderate for average players.
We are not high ranking, all about the same, but none of us have got there.
It's not easy, if it was a lot more players would be able to do it.
So stop being so imperious.
Until you're at summoner level 45+, that minimum for a Basic 4* arena is a 4* at 3/30 or 3* at 4/40. As you get to higher summoner levels, that minimum drops to 2/20 and 3/30 respectively. Minimum PI for EACH champ is around 1500. It does not matter what your team PI is.
For the 3* featured arena, the minimum PI for EACH champ is around 450.
Because of this, when you get to infinite streak there will be champs you cannot use anymore. I can only use about half of my 3* and 4* champs in a basic arena once I've established the streak.
Possibly because most players that haven't played the game for very long are completely unaware of how the arena streaks work. For most of the arena events, it isn't skill that is the determining factor it is knowledge of how the arena works that allows players to achieve long streaks. The game makes the opponents stronger the lower you are, and weaker the higher you are. If you understand the pacing, and there are lots of guides out there for this subject, you can deliberately bring low teams to fights you know the game will send easy opponents, and then your strongest to the ones you know the computer would ordinarily send harder ones, and as long as you stay ahead of the curve you never get very hard fights.
For me, match 150 is exactly the same as 16, as is every match in between.
Also know that the randomly generated AI team is picked from a range of champs that are directly related to the ones you picked. If your TEAM PI is 5000, the computer will generate a TEAM that has a similar total PI. In the basic 4* arenas,if your team is 3x 4* R3, you will typically see an AI team of 2x 4* R3 and a 3* R4. However, I've seen a team of 2x 3* R3 and a 4* R4. I've also seen the AI team include an unleveled 3* to have 2x 4* R4 (sandbagged).
What I do there is get to fight 9, then drop a 1* in the team to lower the PI a bit, that should get me to fight 15 unless you are unlucky with matchups which can happen a lot.
From then it is easy until fight 20 Ian, then it is duels and I completely suck at duels. The AI is so much faster, they insta heavy and block specials, and I guess because I don't get there every streak, this takes some getting used to as it is a COMPLETELY different way to fight.
I can usually get to 25 or so, but then just get taken by light speed AI that I simply cannot compete with.
I don't have enough 3* to even try this in other arenas.
Match 25 and match 400 are the same AI level as long as you meet the minimum team composition/PI for the arena you are participating in.