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Calendars

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  • DarthPhalDarthPhal Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    If you log in every day for a year you should get a pony.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,235 ★★★★★
    DarthPhal said:

    If you log in every day for a year you should get a pony.

    Miniature Pony for those that haven't completed Uncollected. XD
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    edited March 2019

    So in your mind, you're calling it an Appreciation Package. Not at all what it is. Let's go with that logic. Appreciation is a way of saying "Thank you!". I believe giving anything for free accomplishes that. If you want to be paid to play the game, I suggest you explore a job in that field.
    My points were well, on point. Unfortunately, your level of expectation is not congruent with the gravity of the situation. I'm sorry for that.

    People with that mindset should never run a casino, because people who run casinos know the importance of increasing the appreciation package to their heavier spenders than their basic package for casuals.

    Your belief is consistent with your ideas being out of touch. Thank you for your consistency, it’s rare.

  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,235 ★★★★★
    A Casino? Please inform me how logging on to an App equates to playing a Casino? I'm sorry, but your analogies aren't even in sync with what we're talking about.
    It's not RNG, or Loot Crates, or any form of taking a chance. Dude, you're turning the game on. It's a Bonus. Not payment. Not due supplement. It's not owed. It's added incentive, and NOT AT ALL the focus of the game.
    We go through this at least 4 months out of the year. Not all months will have mind-blowing Rewards in the Calendar. They can't all be 5* and 6* Shards. Who would play the game at all if that was the case? Turn it on, collect your loot, and build an Account. There are games that exist like that. Farmville is lovely.
    As long as there has been a Calendar, there have been some months with more than others. That's just how it is. Not to mention all the other Special Event Calendars and other incentives. Perhaps that's the real issue. You give too much, and some people expect equal or better everytime. That's not how game balance works.
  • Woody15Woody15 Posts: 544 ★★★
    I've only been playing for a couple months so all the rewards are pretty dope to me, but I think of the calender like the little key chain that gets you a free jr. frosty at Wendy's. It's not the reason you're there, but it's free so why not take advantage of it
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    edited March 2019

    A Casino? Please inform me how logging on to an App equates to playing a Casino? I'm sorry, but your analogies aren't even in sync with what we're talking about.
    It's not RNG, or Loot Crates, or any form of taking a chance. Dude, you're turning the game on. It's a Bonus. Not payment. Not due supplement. It's not owed. It's added incentive, and NOT AT ALL the focus of the game.
    We go through this at least 4 months out of the year. Not all months will have mind-blowing Rewards in the Calendar. They can't all be 5* and 6* Shards. Who would play the game at all if that was the case? Turn it on, collect your loot, and build an Account. There are games that exist like that. Farmville is lovely.
    As long as there has been a Calendar, there have been some months with more than others. That's just how it is. Not to mention all the other Special Event Calendars and other incentives. Perhaps that's the real issue. You give too much, and some people expect equal or better everytime. That's not how game balance works.

    Again, you’ve missed my concept.

    You compared casinos with logging in? I’ve never made that comparison. I’ve been making the comparison with casinos for people who *Spend* money like at a casino vs people who are casual and jus come for the experience and free stuff.

    The spenders should not be receiving the same appreciation package as a casual. It’s not only illogical but it creates no incentive for the free to play to even buy anything.

    It’s a bad business model, and a horrible concept.

    It’s outdated like their basic appreciation package
  • DarthPhalDarthPhal Posts: 1,064 ★★★★

  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    edited March 2019
    It’s borderline insulting. They should implement another appreciation package based on x amount, and then reveal that amount. Stop submitting to the complaints of free to play accounts because a lot of them are the same ones laughing and gloating to your heavier spenders when they get the better champs.

    Appreciate the money!
  • Bfyffe28Bfyffe28 Posts: 41
    I don’t mind a few calendars like this especially after the last several months. Between the New Years stuff and all the special calendars they’ve had it’s probably valued at 1000$ worth of stuff the last 4 months or so. The calendar also recently got buffed with 5 star shards at the end of every month. Those used to be just empty slots so that’s pretty good to me. I don’t think they would be a problem at all but people compare them to the end of the year stuff and they just can’t give that out every month for free.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,235 ★★★★★
    edited March 2019

    A Casino? Please inform me how logging on to an App equates to playing a Casino? I'm sorry, but your analogies aren't even in sync with what we're talking about.
    It's not RNG, or Loot Crates, or any form of taking a chance. Dude, you're turning the game on. It's a Bonus. Not payment. Not due supplement. It's not owed. It's added incentive, and NOT AT ALL the focus of the game.
    We go through this at least 4 months out of the year. Not all months will have mind-blowing Rewards in the Calendar. They can't all be 5* and 6* Shards. Who would play the game at all if that was the case? Turn it on, collect your loot, and build an Account. There are games that exist like that. Farmville is lovely.
    As long as there has been a Calendar, there have been some months with more than others. That's just how it is. Not to mention all the other Special Event Calendars and other incentives. Perhaps that's the real issue. You give too much, and some people expect equal or better everytime. That's not how game balance works.

    Again, you’ve missed my concept.

    You compared casinos with logging in? I’ve never made that comparison. I’ve been making the comparison with casinos for people who *Spend* money like at a casino vs people who are casual and jus come for the experience and free stuff.

    The spenders should not be receiving the same appreciation package as a casual. It’s not only illogical but it creates no incentive for the free to play to even buy anything.

    It’s bad business model, and a horrible concept.

    It’s outdated like their basic appreciation package
    No. YOU are missing the point.
    Everyone collects the same Calendar, but your dependency is outdated. Meaning, it's meant to help people starting out who are logging in everyday and trying to build their Accounts. By the time someone reaches the point that they have no use for the Rewards in it, they don't need it anymore. They're earning better Rewards in harder content.
    You're free to collect it just like anyone else, but don't be surprised if it doesn't increase to a more advanced level of progression. Once again, turning the App on is not all there is to playing the game. That's not how you earn Rewards.
  • Noob2435Noob2435 Posts: 627 ★★★
    I just think it needs a bit more diversity
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    edited March 2019
    I

    A Casino? Please inform me how logging on to an App equates to playing a Casino? I'm sorry, but your analogies aren't even in sync with what we're talking about.
    It's not RNG, or Loot Crates, or any form of taking a chance. Dude, you're turning the game on. It's a Bonus. Not payment. Not due supplement. It's not owed. It's added incentive, and NOT AT ALL the focus of the game.
    We go through this at least 4 months out of the year. Not all months will have mind-blowing Rewards in the Calendar. They can't all be 5* and 6* Shards. Who would play the game at all if that was the case? Turn it on, collect your loot, and build an Account. There are games that exist like that. Farmville is lovely.
    As long as there has been a Calendar, there have been some months with more than others. That's just how it is. Not to mention all the other Special Event Calendars and other incentives. Perhaps that's the real issue. You give too much, and some people expect equal or better everytime. That's not how game balance works.

    Again, you’ve missed my concept.

    You compared casinos with logging in? I’ve never made that comparison. I’ve been making the comparison with casinos for people who *Spend* money like at a casino vs people who are casual and jus come for the experience and free stuff.

    The spenders should not be receiving the same appreciation package as a casual. It’s not only illogical but it creates no incentive for the free to play to even buy anything.

    It’s bad business model, and a horrible concept.

    It’s outdated like their basic appreciation package
    No. YOU are missing the point.
    Everyone collects the same Calendar, but your dependency is outdated. Meaning, it's meant to help people starting out who are logging in everyday and trying to build their Accounts. By the time someone reaches the point that they have no use for the Rewards in it, they don't need it anymore. They're earning better Rewards in harder content.
    You're free to collect it just like anyone else, but don't be surprised if it doesn't inceease to a more advanced level of progression. Once again, turning the App on is not all there is to playing the game. That's not how you earn Rewards.
    That’s the problem, everyone shouldn’t be only collecting the same appreciation package of logging in and playing when the game increases cost and people spend x amount of money.

    There’s not any incentive for the free to play to buy anything if they can jus play and earn the same rewards through events. There should be a difference which gives an incentive for more cash for Kabam and Kabam is lacking in it.

    Casinos show their differences between spenders. Maybe this game should become 21 and older like casinos are? Idk. The free to play should not be able to gloat and make their spenders regret their purchases by extending a gesture of a safety net of being happy which would be found in the extra calendar; which the gloating free to play players can’t get their hands on.

    Appreciate your spenders!
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,235 ★★★★★

    I

    A Casino? Please inform me how logging on to an App equates to playing a Casino? I'm sorry, but your analogies aren't even in sync with what we're talking about.
    It's not RNG, or Loot Crates, or any form of taking a chance. Dude, you're turning the game on. It's a Bonus. Not payment. Not due supplement. It's not owed. It's added incentive, and NOT AT ALL the focus of the game.
    We go through this at least 4 months out of the year. Not all months will have mind-blowing Rewards in the Calendar. They can't all be 5* and 6* Shards. Who would play the game at all if that was the case? Turn it on, collect your loot, and build an Account. There are games that exist like that. Farmville is lovely.
    As long as there has been a Calendar, there have been some months with more than others. That's just how it is. Not to mention all the other Special Event Calendars and other incentives. Perhaps that's the real issue. You give too much, and some people expect equal or better everytime. That's not how game balance works.

    Again, you’ve missed my concept.

    You compared casinos with logging in? I’ve never made that comparison. I’ve been making the comparison with casinos for people who *Spend* money like at a casino vs people who are casual and jus come for the experience and free stuff.

    The spenders should not be receiving the same appreciation package as a casual. It’s not only illogical but it creates no incentive for the free to play to even buy anything.

    It’s bad business model, and a horrible concept.

    It’s outdated like their basic appreciation package
    No. YOU are missing the point.
    Everyone collects the same Calendar, but your dependency is outdated. Meaning, it's meant to help people starting out who are logging in everyday and trying to build their Accounts. By the time someone reaches the point that they have no use for the Rewards in it, they don't need it anymore. They're earning better Rewards in harder content.
    You're free to collect it just like anyone else, but don't be surprised if it doesn't inceease to a more advanced level of progression. Once again, turning the App on is not all there is to playing the game. That's not how you earn Rewards.
    That’s the problem, everyone shouldn’t be only collecting the same appreciation package of logging in and playing when the game increases cost and people spend x amount of money.

    There’s not any incentive for the free to play to buy anything if they can jus play and earn the same rewards through events. There should be difference which gives an incentive for more cash for Kabam and Kabam is lacking in it.
    You calling it an Appreciation Package doesn't make it one.
    Spending has nothing to do with it. You know what you get for spending? What you pay for. Notwithstanding the TOS that states we don't actually own anything, you receive access to what you lease to play. You get what you pay for. That doesn't entitle you to preferrential treatment and better Login Rewards. Unless you purchase said Rewards in the form of a Daily Card. It's the fact that it's for everyone that limits what they put into it, and that's by design. It's not a separation of Classes. There is also an additive for Uncollected Players that those who aren't don't have access to. Doesn't matter that we've spent money. That doesn't mean we deserve a better Bonus Calendar. We're not Shareholders.
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    edited March 2019
    Drooped2 said:

    It’s borderline insulting. They should implement another appreciation package based on x amount, and then reveal that amount. Stop submitting to the complaints of free to play accounts because a lot of them are the same ones laughing and gloating to your heavier spenders when they get the better champs.

    Appreciate the money!

    Lol stop submitting to the complaints from f2p and submit.to your complaints instead?

    Sorry you arent special. Sorry you spend money and only get what you buy and arent treated differently based on that.

    Omg the entitlement is amazing in this one..

    Wah wah wah I spent money I deserve better free stuff.
    God I wish kabam would end the login calendars for ever
    Nope! Don’t submit to my complaints either!

    The x amount calendar would speak for itself. Kabam has missed this opportunity and a lot of the free to play accounts are gloating in their spenders’ faces and then being respected by them on the forum when they overrun posts with outdated ideas and bad business models
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    Drooped2 said:


    You’re right, that is the definition. I’ve never said I believe to have deserved the appreciation package. I’m saying implement one for the sake of creating an incentive for free to play and making their spenders happy.

    This entitlement argument has become outdated as well; how many times can I say I don’t deserve the appreciation package? No one does.

    The definition of belief to deserve special treatment does not apply to me or this concept. #Next
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,235 ★★★★★
    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:


    You’re right, that is the definition. I’ve never said I believe to have deserved the appreciation package. I’m saying implement one for the sake of creating an incentive for free to play and making their spenders happy.

    This entitlement argument has become outdated as well; how many times can I say I don’t deserve the appreciation package? No one does.

    The definition of belief to deserve special treatment does not apply to me or this concept. #Next
    Ok you want it but by your own admission dont deserve it.


    #Next
    Abolitionist333_ said:
    It’s borderline insulting. They should implement another appreciation package based on x amount, and then reveal that amount. Stop submitting to the complaints of free to play accounts because a lot of them are the same ones laughing and gloating to your heavier spenders when they get the better champs.

    Appreciate the money!

    Um....
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    I

    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:


    You’re right, that is the definition. I’ve never said I believe to have deserved the appreciation package. I’m saying implement one for the sake of creating an incentive for free to play and making their spenders happy.

    This entitlement argument has become outdated as well; how many times can I say I don’t deserve the appreciation package? No one does.

    The definition of belief to deserve special treatment does not apply to me or this concept. #Next
    Ok you want it but by your own admission dont deserve it.


    #Next
    Abolitionist333_ said:
    It’s borderline insulting. They should implement another appreciation package based on x amount, and then reveal that amount. Stop submitting to the complaints of free to play accounts because a lot of them are the same ones laughing and gloating to your heavier spenders when they get the better champs.

    Appreciate the money!

    Um....
    Yep! Exactly! They should implement that to show appreciation of funds, which would create an incentive for free to play accounts to buy something and encourage their spenders.

    We don’t deserve this business model. If they implement it, it is still an appreciation package which help makes spenders a little happier when free to play accounts laugh and gloat because of a better champ.

    They should implement this appreciation package because they aren’t showing any difference of appreciation than that of free to play! Your free to play accounts are Laughing and Gloating over your heavy spenders!
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    edited March 2019
    I’m very surprised that Kabam let’s their free to play accounts laugh and gloat in the faces of their spenders. It’s such an awful business practice to not try to at least give them different rewards that they can’t get their hands on as a free to play.
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    Drooped2 said:

    Drooped2 said:


    You’re right, that is the definition. I’ve never said I believe to have deserved the appreciation package. I’m saying implement one for the sake of creating an incentive for free to play and making their spenders happy.

    This entitlement argument has become outdated as well; how many times can I say I don’t deserve the appreciation package? No one does.

    The definition of belief to deserve special treatment does not apply to me or this concept. #Next
    Ok you want it but by your own admission dont deserve it.


    #Next
    Exactly! Now you’re getting it! This is called a request!

    Why should free to play accounts be able to laugh and gloat in the faces of their spenders without giving different resources primarily to their spenders that the free to play can’t get their hands on to ease the pain of bad pulls?

  • DarthPhalDarthPhal Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    If only they would listen to you they’d be making millions every month! Oh wait...
  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    edited March 2019
    DarthPhal said:

    If only they would listen to you they’d be making millions every month! Oh wait...

    Whatever dude... Another dysfunctional argument.. it’s not even a shocker why this community hasn’t received more
  • DarthPhalDarthPhal Posts: 1,064 ★★★★

  • Abolitionist333_Abolitionist333_ Posts: 426
    I’m done. Bye. I shouldn’t be the only one speaking in favor of it as much as I am anyway.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,235 ★★★★★
    edited March 2019

    I’m very surprised that Kabam let’s their free to play accounts laugh and gloat in the faces of their spenders. It’s such an awful business practice to not try to at least give them different rewards that they can’t get their hands on as a free to play.

    You've got to be kidding. How do you call everyone receiving the same Calendar laughing and gloating? There's nothing to gloat over. They are NOT going to give more Calendar Login Rewards to people just because they spend money and are not Free-To-Play. This is not The Titanic. The Lifeboats won't be seated according to Class. If your argument was that you think the Calendar should contain more, that's a reasonable feeling, albeit blind to the fact that no matter what they give is a Bonus and not owed, but still a reasonable request and feeling just the same. However, if your argument is you think you should get more for free because you spend on the game, then you're investing way too much into the idea that it somehow makes you more important. I can tell you, it does not. No matter what you spend or don't spend, you get the same as everyone else. That is called fairness. What you can't have is EVERYTHING you want, just because you feel you are owed it. That's because life is not as fair as the Calendar.
  • Duke_SilverDuke_Silver Posts: 2,421 ★★★★
    That gold crystal idea is great. The gold we get in the calendars atm is so minuscule.
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