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The new end date will be May 1st.
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However, it's not a cover-all. Contrary to most of the reactions, they do care about what people want. More than any other game I've ever seen. They take feedback into consideration, and that's seldom acknowledged when people don't agree with something. It's not a situation where they use that to pull whatever they like. There are reasons behind the decisions they make, and as with most decisions, you have to balance the need with the ramifications that follow. This just happens to be one of those situations where they had to take drastic action because the offense was drastic. If anything, I blame the selfish people who had to ruin it for everyone by stealing and hawking their wares. You would be totally inept not to stop it.
Maybe this removal will also minimize bots in arena because it's not profitable anymore (hopefully)
Anyway...i'm rambling...the solution as mentioned
Most guys are upset about the removal of the badge, because they can't get help from alliance members/friends with regards to a health pot or revive in AW, or an energy refill to finish a path in EQ. Stuff that you can always gift back once you get some units from completing content or arena.
Easy solution...maybe "gifting" available within an alliance once the members has been in the alliance for a per-dertemined amount of time, so he/she can't just join an alliance to get items and leave (that wont solve the fraud), BUT for loyal alliance members to still build coalition and team building within any alliance. That way, if said player has been in the specific alliance for more than 10 days for instance, other members can still send a Health Pot to help in AW
@Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Vydious @Kabam Lyra @Kabam Porthos maybe something to discuss with the team to "ease" the anger from the player base that wants to compete within the laws of the game, but still wants some sort of gifting between alliance mates?
Remember that kabam?
Yeah..you guys are really trying to stop it.
Well done!
1.) All conspiracies aside, the reasoning why is sound. If people were misusing this in game system to phish real world information, then it had to be stopped. Period.
2.) It has been stated clearly, suspension. Suspension is NOT termination. Simply put, this is temporary. They're working on finding ways to put a stop to the abuse. In doing so, they cannot have the system active during such a time.
3.) As it is temporary, judging by this...
There's literally no reason to expect any form a refund for something that should return. If they were to issue such, we'd be forced to buy it again once it returns. Kind of redundant isn't it?
4.) If/when they do eventually announce they cannot bring the service back, that's when we should expdct a bit more. The 300 units was not payback, it was a kind gesture. Nothing more, nothing less.
5.) As it has been previously noted, according to the ToS, they don't owe us. Although some may feel the 300 units wasn't an adequate measure, that doesn't mean we're owed anything. How you feel and what reality is are often 2 different things.
6.) When you purchased the unit package that included the Gifting Badge, regardless of your intent of said purchase, you got what you paid for. The units. The Badge was a bonus. Be it the reason you purchased it is irrelevant. Period. I too purchased the unit package mainly for the Badge, but I accept that fact. Cannot be argued otherwise as those units sell for the same price daily. Simple as that.
7.) It's best to understand that they really had little choice in shutting it down without warning. If they had warned us, those that are misusing the system would've done everything they could have in that short period of time. There's literally no way for them to only let the 'legitimate players' know and not the scammers. The heads up likely would've lead to a spike in scams. People trying to squeeze out every last bit they could before it was officially shut down. Just the nature of the beast.
So, Kabam's hand was forced by dirty actions of scammers. We're caught in the crossfire unfortunately. It's not right. True. It's rough timing wise. Agreed. However, it is what it is. There's evidence that suggests this is temporary. It being a temporary situation, we need to be patient. Throwing tantrums, and demanding refunds is not gonna help matters. Personally, I'm happy they stopped all the nonsense associated with Gifting Badge abuse. I'll happily wait while they fix the system so it'll be harder to abuse (hopefully). Again, if for some reason they cannot bring it back, at that time (provided they don't give us something a bit more realistic) we should start discussing the matter deeper. Until then try to understand that health pots and revives (that can be farmed in game for free in many ways) are not a huge part of Kabam's bottom line. They didn't shut down the Gifting system because of Act 6, or any other dribble mentioned prior. Just look at the fallout.
The reason mentioned sounds pretty legit to me. Gifting links 2 accounts for a brief period. In this time, with the right know how... who knows what's possible. This system has been in place for YEARS. It was only a matter of time before someone figured a way to scam information using it. If one can figure it, more than one can do it. Then word of mouth via internet dark alleys, more people start doing it. That's a real problem when people's accounts start losing real money. Something that trumps our in game experience if you ask me. Try to see the bigger picture here, try to understand Kabam had little choice in the matter, and hope for the best. Hopefully they can find a way to make Gifting work without exploits (or minor ones at worst). In game exploits are 1 thing. Exploits that extend beyond the game, from the game, are a REAL problem.
When I say real problem, I'm saying it for perspective purposes. The loss of Gifting is an inconvenience. An irritating situation. Hacked credit accounts... that's a real problem. Some are probably wondering where these folks are. Well... if they participated in allocating in game resources from 3rd parties that in turn phished their account information, I don't think they'd be advertising such here. Call me crazy. I have seen MANY offers for such in outside groups. Personally, I wouldn't trust anyone, but that's me. Heck, there's people who've lost their accounts doing 'trades' in Global chat for crying out loud so this is VERY feasible. Ok, continue ranting away. Won't do much. Don't expect much (if anything). Short of a moment's catharsis I guess. Whatever works for yah.
i bought it for the badge on 2 accounts.
that is AUD$90.
i spent $90 on something i can no longer use.
pretty sure that breaches Australia fair trade laws.
certainly have a right and a recourse for a refund here in Australia.
i only ever bought units for the badge.
no badeg i never would have bough units.
they can take back the 850 units for all i care.
i dont want compensation.
i want a refund.
i spent $90 on something i can no longer use.
i uinderstand why the have disabled it.
but allow me to take a refund.
I WILL GIVE BACK THE 850 units so i can have my $46.99 back.
from eachg of my accounts,
and from my partners account.
so that is AUD$150 we have been robbed of.
LET US GET OUR MONEY BACK.
they gave everyone about 2 years warning to buy a set top box or new tv,
and then when it came time they went as far as giving everyone a set top box so they could continue using their existing TV.
you know why?
cus its the right thing to do.
and under our fair trading laws it would be a very fine line of legality to suddenly make someones purchase no longer work as intended when they purchased it
Blaming the prices for illegal and illicit behavior is about as irreverent as it comes, and shows anything but a conscience about stealing. People are responsible for their own choice to steal. It's not justified by the price of things. Children learn at a very early age, don't take what doesn't belong to you. For some reason, that doesn't stick.
That's not only the situation we are talking about. There is also Fraud happening that involves other people. No amount of gripe with the prices will make this behavior justifiable.
It's flat-out sad that people are so unconscionable that they don't consider other people or the ramifications of their actions. They don't care as long as they make a quick buck and stick it to Kabam. Only, they stick it to themselves and everyone else in the end, and this is the direct result of that.
It is not Kabam's fault it's come to this. It's people who played the system like a well-oiled flute.
What I really don't understand is why honest players should always lose out. Couse it is the easyest way? hope they do something else and have the badge back.
I bought the gifting badge, now I find myself with 300 units that do not even correspond to the cost of 30 €. I would certainly not have spent € 30 to receive 300 units. If it is a temporary and brief suspension, to resolve the problem, I hope to get back the badge and not having to pay the 30 € again
As for charges from Kabam for reselling their product, none as of late. Nevertheless, it's illegal. Should they choose to if they identified them, I believe they could pursue it. 100%. Not necessarily that I believe they will. They could, however. The game belongs to them. No person has the right to offer their services for money. It's illegal.
Side note, if it was my product and people were undercutting me, I'd litigate. If it was my Credit Card and people stole from me, I would pursue it.