**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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If I don't explicitly use the words "just to play devil's advocate" you can be assured every position I take is the position I believe in. The position I have on resource reallocation items similar to RDTs was formulated in 2005, when this game wasn't even a whiteboard sketch.
I don't know if you can say it comes down to level of outrage. Players have been outraged even more about other changes that were not reversed. I would like to think that the developers saw reasonable arguments within the larger level of general complaints and that caused them to reconsider their decision. Logically, this situation seems very different to me than others that are being compared to it, and I made those arguments in the larger thread.
Although there's some subjective judgment involved, I think this case is a very extreme case. As I've said many times before, nerfing a champ doesn't automatically justify RDTs. In fact, no nerf of any magnitude justifies RDTs. The issue here isn't that She Hulk was nerfed, it was that whether the devs realized it or not they built an entire update of a champion on a foundation pillar of special combo mechanics the devs are now saying shouldn't have existed.
I'm not a She Hulk expert, but I know enough to know that some very special interactions occur when you allow She Hulk to combo into heavy that don't exist for other champs. You could say that the updated She Hulk is built on two fundamental abilities. The first is a momentum-like ability to build passive furies which taunt the defender to use specials which refresh those very passive furies. This feedback loop is far easier to manage when you can combo into heavy because you want to use normal attacks to give the target as much power as possible because you want them to have enough power to use specials quickly. You can still simply heavy-combo the target like any other champ can, but that doesn't give the same amount of power and it is harder to get the target using specials. The second is the ability to use slow to counter unstoppable. Allowing the player to fold in heavies into combos means they target is consistently slowed, eliminating unstoppable as a threat.
This then creates a very special circumstance where She Hulk was updated to try to get players to rank her up and use her more, and the two primary things the devs did are explicitly helped by her ability to combo into heavies. And when the developers were silent about that interaction for an extended period of time even highlighting players who were using the tactic that created the impression that this behavior was not just acceptable but intentional.
This is not the same thing as just fixing a typo in a champion info panel or nerfing obvious exploits. And it isn't an organic change due to long-term game balancing that you cannot predict until the datamining shows the issue a year down the road. The devs both failed to inform the players about the problem when it emerged, and also actively encouraged players to use the unintended mechanics, if indirectly. And that's why I argued for RDTs in this situation when I almost always argue against them in general.
- She-Hulk nerf or fix or whatever you call it : -10 pts
- offering RDT for people who ranked her : +10 pts
- forced update on android devices : -10 pts
Nope, still negative.
Why does she hulk get rdt
The poor communication is sadly par for the course at the moment and certainly needs improvement, but we already knew that.
It’s such a shame that a game I love has such a dichotomy in its departments.
Please learn from this backlash, be proactive - if something from the OML/Colossus buffs is looking to be broken or ‘not working as intended’ announce it, say you’re looking at it, say your solution, give the timeframe.
People are reasonable as long as it’s not thrust upon them.
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Sometimes the community is well within their rights to “cry”. Just like sometimes people like yourself are well within their right to cry about them crying. Personally I can’t see why anyone would be upset with this outcome other then they feel other cases in the past have deserved it as well