Ronin and Ebony Maw Buff / Balance Changes?

SeatinSeatin Posts: 33 ★★
Hey Kabam

Coming from your Human Torch & Annihilus Buff post you state that:

"- 3 months after a Champion is released we’ll have reviewed and analyzed their data.
- If it needs a small balance, up or down, we will notify the player base before it enters into the Basic Crystal Pool of Champions.
- Approximately 3 months later any changes made will have been tested and then released to the Community."

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/153017/more-consistent-balance-changes-coming-your-way#latest

Ronin has just entered the basic crystal pool and Ebony Maw will be entering shortly.

I don't think there's much doubt in anyone's mind that Ebony Maw is in need of a rework in terms of the numbers. I think Ronin is overall a decent character, but it's quite obvious he's far behind the ranks of Nick Fury, Aegon & Blade as his utility is a fair bit lacking.

Will Ebony Maw & Ronin 'balance changes' be announced soon?

Cheers
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  • AleorAleor Posts: 1,150 ★★★
    I pulled ronin from basic like 2-3 days ago, and so far he looks meh. Honestly, I'd prefer maw
  • Japam12345Japam12345 Posts: 418 ★★
    Aleor said:

    I pulled ronin from basic like 2-3 days ago, and so far he looks meh. Honestly, I'd prefer maw

    LOL .. prefer Maw for what? Beating up 3-4 stars?!?!
  • RagamugginGunnerRagamugginGunner Posts: 1,910 ★★★★★
    Totally agree. Both need a rework much more than HT does.
  • My_SuperiorMy_Superior Posts: 1,714 ★★★★
    Are Aegon, Blade, and Nick Fury considered balanced characters? I always thought of them as a bit top-heavy.
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 2,055 ★★★★

    Yes, Ronin isnt on top tier skill classes level, such as blade or Fury, but hes still pretty darn good. I feel like the problem is that everyone wants every new champ to be "god tier' or above. They dont. Ronin is still pretty solid, and if you pull him, it's better than 70% of what you could have pulled.
    Maw on the other hand, is terrible lol. Certainly needs rework

    Oh I absolutely agree that he's definitely above average. Also he's just really fun to play with, which in itself makes him a god tier on my own little tier list lol.

    However if they're going to revisit him, then there certainly is room for improvement. Not to make him good (as he definitely already is more than just good) or god tier (as in directly comparable to nick, blade or aegon), but rather to make him a little bit better at what he was seemingly designed for.
  • SeatinSeatin Posts: 33 ★★

    Yes, Ronin isnt on top tier skill classes level, such as blade or Fury, but hes still pretty darn good. I feel like the problem is that everyone wants every new champ to be "god tier' or above. They dont. Ronin is still pretty solid, and if you pull him, it's better than 70% of what you could have pulled.
    Maw on the other hand, is terrible lol. Certainly needs rework

    Oh I absolutely agree that he's definitely above average. Also he's just really fun to play with, which in itself makes him a god tier on my own little tier list lol.

    However if they're going to revisit him, then there certainly is room for improvement. Not to make him good (as he definitely already is more than just good) or god tier (as in directly comparable to nick, blade or aegon), but rather to make him a little bit better at what he was seemingly designed for.
    I find Ronin super fun to play, but his utility is definitely lacking. It would be nice if his dash back stance change removed all debuffs and provided debuff immunity for a few seconds. Would love to see his damage get juiced up a bit more as well!

    I agree with others in this thread tho, if Human Torch has been identified to get buffed Ronin should definitely be on the list as well. I like him, but there's no doubt he's just a bit lacking overall and could use a bit of a boost.
  • JadedJaded Posts: 1,630 ★★★★
    Seatin said:

    Hey Kabam

    Coming from your Human Torch & Annihilus Buff post you state that:

    "- 3 months after a Champion is released we’ll have reviewed and analyzed their data.
    - If it needs a small balance, up or down, we will notify the player base before it enters into the Basic Crystal Pool of Champions.
    - Approximately 3 months later any changes made will have been tested and then released to the Community."

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/153017/more-consistent-balance-changes-coming-your-way#latest

    Ronin has just entered the basic crystal pool and Ebony Maw will be entering shortly.

    I don't think there's much doubt in anyone's mind that Ebony Maw is in need of a rework in terms of the numbers. I think Ronin is overall a decent character, but it's quite obvious he's far behind the ranks of Nick Fury, Aegon & Blade as his utility is a fair bit lacking.

    Will Ebony Maw & Ronin 'balance changes' be announced soon?

    Cheers

    They said starting in October they would start this program. Seeing as maw and ronin are either in the basic or soon to be. They miss this program.

    So what you are asking of them is to go back buff these two champs instead of some 2015/2016 champs that actually need it more so. 🤦‍♂️.

    While we are asking kabam for everything why not just buff all the champs that need them now instead of waiting for their own timeline. Seems reasonable.
  • BajjsbwuqjwBajjsbwuqjw Posts: 570 ★★
    edited September 10
    Ronin is okay..he is fun to play,very skill based intercepter and can make nuce damage but need lot of work for that

    His buf would be asking for making him a god tier...that wont happen

    Maw on the otherside hits like a wet napkin


    If ronin had just a lil bit more bleed or damage he would be one of the best champs to play with
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,033 ★★★★★
    To be more specific, I couldn't answer the aspects they're looking at. They may be the same as the data aspects for the current buffs. They may be other aspects
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 20,033 ★★★★★
    edited September 10
    The 3-month rebalances are more like minor tweaks to fill in any underperforming areas. I assume it is also proactive in making larger reworks less intensive if needed at all later on.
  • KalantakKalantak Posts: 432 ★★
    Siliyo said:

    Seatin said:

    Hey Kabam

    Coming from your Human Torch & Annihilus Buff post you state that:

    "- 3 months after a Champion is released we’ll have reviewed and analyzed their data.
    - If it needs a small balance, up or down, we will notify the player base before it enters into the Basic Crystal Pool of Champions.
    - Approximately 3 months later any changes made will have been tested and then released to the Community."

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/153017/more-consistent-balance-changes-coming-your-way#latest

    Ronin has just entered the basic crystal pool and Ebony Maw will be entering shortly.

    I don't think there's much doubt in anyone's mind that Ebony Maw is in need of a rework in terms of the numbers. I think Ronin is overall a decent character, but it's quite obvious he's far behind the ranks of Nick Fury, Aegon & Blade as his utility is a fair bit lacking.

    Will Ebony Maw & Ronin 'balance changes' be announced soon?

    Cheers

    We missed the schedule on this one, but we will have an announcement coming for Ebony Maw soon.

    Ronin has been doing alright, so we won't be touching him.

    The goal with these rebalances is not to bring Champs to the Top of the pool, but to make tuning changes if they are underperforming. Ronin is not Aegon, but we're not looking to create another Aegon with every new Champion.
    And what are the things you’re looking for when evaluating these champs to determine whether or not they need to be looked at?
    How about DIABLO ? he is very far off from not just top but also the middle and kinda off from bottom as well. do we expect any buff announcement for him as well like ebony maw?
  • UmbertoDelRioUmbertoDelRio Posts: 2,055 ★★★★

    Seatin said:

    Hey Kabam

    Coming from your Human Torch & Annihilus Buff post you state that:

    "- 3 months after a Champion is released we’ll have reviewed and analyzed their data.
    - If it needs a small balance, up or down, we will notify the player base before it enters into the Basic Crystal Pool of Champions.
    - Approximately 3 months later any changes made will have been tested and then released to the Community."

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/153017/more-consistent-balance-changes-coming-your-way#latest

    Ronin has just entered the basic crystal pool and Ebony Maw will be entering shortly.

    I don't think there's much doubt in anyone's mind that Ebony Maw is in need of a rework in terms of the numbers. I think Ronin is overall a decent character, but it's quite obvious he's far behind the ranks of Nick Fury, Aegon & Blade as his utility is a fair bit lacking.

    Will Ebony Maw & Ronin 'balance changes' be announced soon?

    Cheers

    We missed the schedule on this one, but we will have an announcement coming for Ebony Maw soon.

    Ronin has been doing alright, so we won't be touching him.

    The goal with these rebalances is not to bring Champs to the Top of the pool, but to make tuning changes if they are underperforming. Ronin is not Aegon, but we're not looking to create another Aegon with every new Champion.
    I get that lol. However, no one is asking for ronin to be on aegons level.

    I think we'll have to wait for further information regarding the torch/annihilus buff to get a better picture of what kabam is actually trying to accomplish.

    I can absolutely live with ronin staying the same, ALTHOUGH one actual thing to consider would be adding him to cap iw's skill synergy. Hawkeye's there and ronin also got the romance synergy with black widow.

    That would be neat.
  • KalantakKalantak Posts: 432 ★★

    I have a 5 star rank 3 ronin and a 6 star diablo, would love if they are buffed. Human torch is much better than ronin is and science is already a super stacked up roster so I dont understand why would you buff human torch and not ronin.

    i also got 6* Diablo and men he has absolutely nthing going for him, no damage, no utility,No synergies
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