Tenacity, fury buff, constant TA and AAR on hits, big DoT, heavy cancel into L2 for big big numbers. Not to mention unblockable on 4/5 hits.
Cable can only do a fraction of that, and only after an L3
Let's break it down: Tenacity: Cable doesn't need tenacity when he's bleed immune (horseman) and poison resistant, which are the 2 most common damaging debuffs in MCOC Fury buff: Who needs a fury buff, it's just Sym Supreme food True Strike: Cable has it on his sp3 AAR: Cable has it on his sp2 Big DOT: Aegon is not one to brag about DOT, Cable has much more powerful DOT Heavy cancel: Ok cool everyone has their own abilities I guess Unblockable: Yeah if you can get to 1000 hits, good luck doing that anywhere other than LOL and AOL
Fury: Rubbish argument, Sym Supreme is only one champ and he staggers only after sp3 or every 15 secs. Tenacity: More dot debuffs are being added to the game, Aegon can shrug off all debuffs except maybe concussion. I would like to see Cable shrugging of an incinerate or coldsnap. True Strike: Its on an sp3 making it hard to access and not ideal if you are looking to face an evade champ AAR: A decent ability of cable but Aegon's is far more accessible Dot: Cable obviously has more Dot than Aegon but his use is decreased when there are stuff like debuff immunity etc. which gimps his damage.
Heavy cancel and unblockable are some minor abilities not severely affecting any ability or anything.
Tenacity, fury buff, constant TA and AAR on hits, big DoT, heavy cancel into L2 for big big numbers. Not to mention unblockable on 4/5 hits.
Cable can only do a fraction of that, and only after an L3
Let's break it down: Tenacity: Cable doesn't need tenacity when he's bleed immune (horseman) and poison resistant, which are the 2 most common damaging debuffs in MCOC Fury buff: Who needs a fury buff, it's just Sym Supreme food True Strike: Cable has it on his sp3 AAR: Cable has it on his sp2 Big DOT: Aegon is not one to brag about DOT, Cable has much more powerful DOT Heavy cancel: Ok cool everyone has their own abilities I guess Unblockable: Yeah if you can get to 1000 hits, good luck doing that anywhere other than LOL and AOL
Except for true strike and AAR Ægon doesn’t need specials.
That fury argument is the worst fury argument I’ve ever read
Considering this is Abyss we’re taking about, the unblockable makes perfect sense
Oh sorry does Quake have a fury? Not everyone needs to have a fury to be powerful
then why didn’t you just say that instead of saying “it’s Sym Supreme food” like that’s supposed to mean anything
But Ægons furies give him even more damage, soooooo
Just because you don't agree with him most of the time doesn't make him a troll
agreeing and diagreeing is a part of debate. making no sense and giving empty statements, that is trolling.
I agree with his Pun99 opinion, i disagree with his cable statements, that does no reflect on what i commented.
Fair enough I don't think he was trolling though, I think he genuinely thinks Cable is a God of the abyss
Yeah maybe he thinks "Cable is a god of the abyss", but to say Cable is better than Aegon is clearly trolling, no?
I was promoting a discussion between Cable and Aegon, maybe I took it too far but I wanted to see their similarities cuz I think Cable is genuinely so powerful with the Apocalypse synergy. I can guarantee you that none of what I said was trolling though, I don't troll on the forums. I may have controversial opinions, but I don't troll.
Cable IMO is a Very similar situation with Abomination... With Red Guardian = Fantastic poison dealing champ which has some very handy uses especially things like acid wash Without: Trash you wouldn't touch Cable with Apocalypse + Fantastic degen damage and can heal from bleeds while adding more degen! so great for biohazard and fights that need DOT Without: Trash you wouldn't ever touch
But you wouldn't bring either into abyss instead of aegon, and while he could probably do it, it would cost you so many more units especially against the collector you're better off waiting!
Ok. I’ve just looked at some footage. When bg used 6r3 cable to take down ws in ccp beta, it took cable 1minute and 19 seconds to do so. I looked at videos of a 6r3 aegon at 999 combo at on average he did 49868 damage per combo. Using this number you can work out how long it would take for him to kill ws. It would take 11 combos. I did a test run with 4* aegon and it took me 46 seconds to get 11 combos in. It would’ve been even faster since aegon would also have unblockable at 999. So already aegon beats cable by 33 seconds. But that’s not the end of the story. If you use aegons heavy cheese method, he massively amplifies his damage. He did on average 160000 damage per combo. That’s 3 and a half combos on ws. It took me 14 seconds to do 3.5 combos. On top of that aegon has a buttload more utility than cable so saying cables better than him is false.
I took mine to r2 cause I love the hell out of horseman cable. But I wouldn’t think of taking him to abyss. That’s madness
I think he’d be pretty amazing in abyss since there are no limber nodes and his heavy attack is only 2 hits and his sp2 is 3 hits. Maybe if he had suicides and full boosts w/White Mags and Apoc on the team so he could heal from double edge and liquid courage. Then again, you can only bring Aegon and Torch for the mystics/energy champs and Abyss collector. The cosmics could end up being a problem but who knows.
you know a better option Aegon, ghost, domino, nick fury. I've seen people do the abyss and their main clearer were those characters
Domino 😹😹😹
Still better than cable
False
Domino-
-Doesn't need basic power control to have good DOT -Doesn't need another champion to actually be worth a damn -Becomes even better with synergies -Good defender -Doesn't rely entirely on DOT
There's something that everybody here seems to be overlooking, for some strange inconceivable reason.
Cable, without a shadow of a doubt, makes better "Pew Pew" noises than Ægon could EVER dream of making.
At the end of the day - what does consistent -AAR, true strike, unblockable, virtually guaranteed crits on every hit, incredibly potent fury buffs, rupturing bleed damage, & more even matter if he can't make "Pew Pew" noises?
There's something that everybody here seems to be overlooking, for some strange inconceivable reason.
Cable, without a shadow of a doubt, makes better "Pew Pew" noises than Ægon could EVER dream of making.
At the end of the day - what does consistent -AAR, true strike, unblockable, virtually guaranteed crits on every hit, incredibly potent fury buffs, rupturing bleed damage, & more even matter if he can't make "Pew Pew" noises?
You just made this whole argument meaningless with your genius observation. This is why you are a content creator. Thank you. @KDSuperFlash10 I am sorry for not believing
Tenacity, fury buff, constant TA and AAR on hits, big DoT, heavy cancel into L2 for big big numbers. Not to mention unblockable on 4/5 hits.
Cable can only do a fraction of that, and only after an L3
Let's break it down: Tenacity: Cable doesn't need tenacity when he's bleed immune (horseman) and poison resistant, which are the 2 most common damaging debuffs in MCOC Fury buff: Who needs a fury buff, it's just Sym Supreme food True Strike: Cable has it on his sp3 AAR: Cable has it on his sp2 Big DOT: Aegon is not one to brag about DOT, Cable has much more powerful DOT Heavy cancel: Ok cool everyone has their own abilities I guess Unblockable: Yeah if you can get to 1000 hits, good luck doing that anywhere other than LOL and AOL
Let me get this straight. You’re taking about a champ who needs another champ ramped up to be effective and you think he’s better than Aegon?
Just use Cable against the collector. Alone, as everybody uses Aegon. And then come back and tell us he’s better when you’ve used 150 revives (at least)
I agree that Domino is not a GREAT champ. But no. You’re wrong on this one.
There's something that everybody here seems to be overlooking, for some strange inconceivable reason.
Cable, without a shadow of a doubt, makes better "Pew Pew" noises than Ægon could EVER dream of making.
At the end of the day - what does consistent -AAR, true strike, unblockable, virtually guaranteed crits on every hit, incredibly potent fury buffs, rupturing bleed damage, & more even matter if he can't make "Pew Pew" noises?
You just made this whole argument meaningless with your genius observation. This is why you are a content creator. Thank you. @KDSuperFlash10 I am sorry for not believing
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Tenacity: More dot debuffs are being added to the game, Aegon can shrug off all debuffs except maybe concussion. I would like to see Cable shrugging of an incinerate or coldsnap.
True Strike: Its on an sp3 making it hard to access and not ideal if you are looking to face an evade champ
AAR: A decent ability of cable but Aegon's is far more accessible
Dot: Cable obviously has more Dot than Aegon but his use is decreased when there are stuff like debuff immunity etc. which gimps his damage.
Heavy cancel and unblockable are some minor abilities not severely affecting any ability or anything.
But Ægons furies give him even more damage, soooooo
making no sense and giving empty statements, that is trolling.
I agree with his Pun99 opinion, i disagree with his cable statements, that does no reflect on what i commented.
I don't think he was trolling though, I think he genuinely thinks Cable is a God of the abyss
With Red Guardian = Fantastic poison dealing champ which has some very handy uses especially things like acid wash
Without: Trash you wouldn't touch
Cable with Apocalypse + Fantastic degen damage and can heal from bleeds while adding more degen! so great for biohazard and fights that need DOT
Without: Trash you wouldn't ever touch
But you wouldn't bring either into abyss instead of aegon, and while he could probably do it, it would cost you so many more units especially against the collector you're better off waiting!
Cool video though!
-Doesn't need basic power control to have good DOT
-Doesn't need another champion to actually be worth a damn
-Becomes even better with synergies
-Good defender
-Doesn't rely entirely on DOT
better than Cable
Cable, without a shadow of a doubt, makes better "Pew Pew" noises than Ægon could EVER dream of making.
At the end of the day - what does consistent -AAR, true strike, unblockable, virtually guaranteed crits on every hit, incredibly potent fury buffs, rupturing bleed damage, & more even matter if he can't make "Pew Pew" noises?
Question is why?
You’re taking about a champ who needs another champ ramped up to be effective and you think he’s better than Aegon?
Just use Cable against the collector. Alone, as everybody uses Aegon.
And then come back and tell us he’s better when you’ve used 150 revives (at least)
I agree that Domino is not a GREAT champ. But no. You’re wrong on this one.