Shang Chi Infinite Combo

AlexMeyers · May 2021

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.

It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilties.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner

xNig · May 2021

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.

It will change alliances’ AW rankings, for those that exploit it v those that don’t. Just saying.

Colinwhitworth69 · May 2021

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilities.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner

FWIW, that was an unintended interaction not part of SH's abilities.

Colinwhitworth69 · May 2021

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilties.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner

Well then when does a champ become "too OP"? I watch plenty of YTers use Quake to do nothing more than wiggle around for two minutes until the fight is over.

AlexMeyers · May 2021

Colinwhitworth69 said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilities.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner
FWIW, that was an unintended interaction not part of SH's abilities.

What's fwiw? Also, most interactions in the game aren't "intended" by devs. They're found by players. And Kabam changes those that are too powerful. Reference the Planetary might boosts. They were intended to have the 90% armour break but it was too powerful and was changed.

Same applies for Shang Chi

Malreck04 · May 2021

Colinwhitworth69 said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilties.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner
Well then when does a champ become "too OP"? I watch plenty of YTers use Quake to do nothing more than wiggle around for two minutes until the fight is over.

Quake has counters. True strike, passive power gain(mostly) easily counters her. Also, have you played Quake? "nothing more than wiggle around" suggests you haven't. Takes enough attention to play her. Only counters to stun lock is debuff immunity, regen and damaging debuffs. The problem with doing abyss with him(using the stun lock) is that this is not how the game is meant to be played. Psycho Man didn't do much damage but his infinite heavy chain was too powerful, they got rid of it

Colinwhitworth69 · May 2021

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilities.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner
FWIW, that was an unintended interaction not part of SH's abilities.
What's fwiw? Also, most interactions in the game aren't "intended" by devs. They're found by players. And Kabam changes those that are too powerful. Reference the Planetary might boosts. They were intended to have the 90% armour break but it was too powerful and was changed.

Same applies for Shang Chi

For What It's Worth, SC's abilities were pretty clear when I read them. SP1 repeats last strike. Not sure how the devs could have been any clearer about this.

Pulyaman · May 2021

Colinwhitworth69 said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilities.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner
FWIW, that was an unintended interaction not part of SH's abilities.

This is an unintended interaction that is part of his abilities. lol
On a serious note, we have had stuff like this. Remember Silver centurion infinite combo chain last month, remember Odin pre-fight stacking? or an even older one. Remember when they decided to change Domino's ability instead of making her work according to her description when they found that if they did fix her, she would be broken?

The point is not if someone else is finishing content with much less resource that I used, that happens all the time. What it will do is create a divide. Do you have Shang-Chi? You won the game. You don't? Ok sweat it out.

The difference between all the others you mentioned and that every other champ either need practice or are OP in a particular scenario. Stun lock is a cheat code which should not exist in the game.

AlexMeyers · May 2021

Colinwhitworth69 said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilities.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner
FWIW, that was an unintended interaction not part of SH's abilities.
What's fwiw? Also, most interactions in the game aren't "intended" by devs. They're found by players. And Kabam changes those that are too powerful. Reference the Planetary might boosts. They were intended to have the 90% armour break but it was too powerful and was changed.

Same applies for Shang Chi
For What It's Worth, SC's abilities were pretty clear when I read them. SP1 repeats last strike. Not sure how the devs could have been any clearer about this.

We're talking about infinte stun chain. Not being able to repeat last strike using sp1.

AlexMeyers · May 2021

Colinwhitworth69 said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilties.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner
Well then when does a champ become "too OP"? I watch plenty of YTers use Quake to do nothing more than wiggle around for two minutes until the fight is over.

They were too deep in with quake to change her.

BitterSteel · May 2021

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilties.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner
Well then when does a champ become "too OP"? I watch plenty of YTers use Quake to do nothing more than wiggle around for two minutes until the fight is over.
They were too deep in with quake to change her.

Plus, I believe the developer who made quake didn’t even realise she could be used like that. I don’t have a source for that so take it with a pinch of salt but it’s a bit of an urban legend about 2016 MCOC

Bendy · May 2021

The whole shang-chi infinite stun combo is insane even if says repeats last combo but make it forbid the stun as no way this can continue on players with 4 star shang-chi can cheese pretty much every cosmic champ but cmm but only need a mystic but u can go path 1 to path 2 or bring someone for cyclops since only mutants it wont work on but this needs to be addressed before arena starts up again

Colinwhitworth69 · May 2021

Bendy said:
The whole shang-chi infinite stun combo is insane even if says repeats last combo but make it forbid the stun as no way this can continue on players with 4 star shang-chi can cheese pretty much every cosmic champ but cmm but only need a mystic but u can go path 1 to path 2 or bring someone for cyclops since only mutants it wont work on but this needs to be addressed before arena starts up again

Save these for your next post: . . . . , , , , , ! ! ! !

You're welcome.

IKON · May 2021

Stun locks can't be allowed to exist.

Agent_X_zzz · May 2021

Zan0 said:

BitterSteel said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:

AlexMeyers said:

Colinwhitworth69 said:
How is it abuse when you are using the abilities exactly as described in the text?

Is using Torch's pre-fight to melt mystics a cheat code that should be nerfed? What about Storm as a Horseman. Prof X with a mutant power boost? Cosmic Ghost Rider, Ghost, Quake -- all of these champs have abilities that make them crush content.

My advice: try to have some fun with this game and don't take things so seriously. If some players beat The Abyss because they used Shang-chi, then good for them. It won't change a thing about you, your roster, or your progression.
It's an abuse based on how this game has been designed till now. Nobody is saying the players are exploiting a bug. The champ is working perfectly normal according to the abilties.

The issue is that it is too OP. Remember, this is a game that had to nerf a champ because she could chain a heavy from a 5 hit combo. And nerfed a champ because it could chain heavy in the corner
Well then when does a champ become "too OP"? I watch plenty of YTers use Quake to do nothing more than wiggle around for two minutes until the fight is over.
They were too deep in with quake to change her.
Plus, I believe the developer who made quake didn’t even realise she could be used like that. I don’t have a source for that so take it with a pinch of salt but it’s a bit of an urban legend about 2016 MCOC
Well they banned loads of people after her release for using her and finishing fights in 0 hits

It was in early 2019 where bans started to roll out for war and V1, the fights were not just finished in 0 hits, but they had 100% health still. This caused kabam to ban them, as no one expected quake to be played this way... of course they were unbanned and recieved compensation

Negative0 · May 2021

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but if you would hit the opponent with an SP1 but they are knocked down, the stun still applies. This means if the opponent is in the corner, you can launch an SP1 IMMEDIATELY after your heavy and continue the stunlock, giving the infinite combo even better consistency. This has been the case for me, at the very least.

IKON · May 2021

I recall someone saying that it used to be the case that you couldn't dex until an animation was over, and that was changed at some point, which opened the door for Quake to be played this way.

Gercas · May 2021

Just imagine Quake being release today, people posting she can win fights without touching the opponent asking to change her. He does what his abilities enable him to do

Colinwhitworth69 · May 2021

If Kabam changes this they're gonna have to roll out a lot of compensation, which I doubt they want to do. All those players scoring 125 million-plus, along with the many who didn't make the cut, spent a ton of units trying to get a champ with the ability description as it is right now. Also there were featured cavs and the early access bundle that players bought, based on the accurately described abilities.

Palanthrax · May 2021

Colinwhitworth69 said:

Bendy said:
The whole shang-chi infinite stun combo is insane even if says repeats last combo but make it forbid the stun as no way this can continue on players with 4 star shang-chi can cheese pretty much every cosmic champ but cmm but only need a mystic but u can go path 1 to path 2 or bring someone for cyclops since only mutants it wont work on but this needs to be addressed before arena starts up again

Save these for your next post: . . . . , , , , , ! ! ! !

You're welcome.

If you can't understand what's wrong with infinitely stun-locking an opponent in the corner, while mindlessly using the same combo with absolutely no skill required, then I'm afraid I don't have enough time or crayons to explain it to you.

Sounds like you just won him in arena.

Palanthrax · May 2021

Gercas said:
Just imagine Quake being release today, people posting she can win fights without touching the opponent asking to change her. He does what his abilities enable him to do

Quake requires skill and concentration, one mistake and you're toast. Shang Chi can infinitely stun lock while you play with one hand and drink a cup of coffee with the other. It's not even close to being the same thing.

Uvogin · May 2021

increasing push-back from heavy attack and reducing range of sp1 so that it doesn't connect in the corner after heavy should fix this right?

Ultimatheory · May 2021

If they modified She Hulk’s heavy attack chain from combo, this is a million times worse. You can effectively ignore 70% of content with how he is set up now.

Prakhar_82 · May 2021

Talking about quake, you need both skill and concentration to bring up the cheese. Plus quaking all those 400K+ hp gives enough brain strains. You all continue tho.

Kabam Miike · May 2021

Hey all, we are aware of this situation and have reported it to the team already. We'll let you know as soon as we hear something back.

wingedWarrior2099 · May 2021

Could you get banned if you are using Chang chi in abyss?

GoDlyZor · May 2021

Speedro420 said:
I have zero doubt that this will be changed. It works exactly how it’s supposed to but someone just did an abyss path with a four star and used only 21 revives. Those with patience will abuse this and Kabam has no choice. On the other hand it shows once again how they literally do no testing before implementation. Arena and this proves it again for the 1000th time. Prepare for the carnage that’s about to be unleashed in the comments.

It's not even about patience arena concluded early release crystals have been out. You know there are people with 5 and 6* out there that will use this too and blow through content. Kabam really does use the community as their way of testing things, ridiculous.

Hoitado · May 2021

I don’t even think people who abused this and did abyss should be banned.

Kabam needs to start checking their stuff. Two months in a row where the champion breaks the game. I’m sick of it tbh

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