War Season 56??

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  • Tx_Quack_Attack6589Tx_Quack_Attack6589 Member Posts: 726 ★★★★
    KabamDORK said:

    Quick update: Still working on this with the team. Hoping to have some answers soon. Thanks for your patience!

    Make sure they work on the first off-season war rating issue as well, that issue was completely ignored.
  • Matty_IceMatty_Ice Member Posts: 638 ★★★

    So punish the alliances that used items and pushed for the win, solid

    It would have been nice to know much sooner that it wouldn’t have counted so those who didn’t want to push could not have pushed.

    It still affected war rating, which may or may not matter for some. The new scoring system makes being in a tier below for even 1 war almost impossible to overcome.
  • Tx_Quack_Attack6589Tx_Quack_Attack6589 Member Posts: 726 ★★★★
    Matty_Ice said:

    So punish the alliances that used items and pushed for the win, solid

    It would have been nice to know much sooner that it wouldn’t have counted so those who didn’t want to push could not have pushed.

    It still affected war rating, which may or may not matter for some. The new scoring system makes being in a tier below for even 1 war almost impossible to overcome.
    Indeed war rating is very important which is why the first off-season war issue that was ignored is arguably more important then this current issue.
  • Matty_IceMatty_Ice Member Posts: 638 ★★★
    I’m not usually one to cry for compensation, but this is a pretty big mess up. Alliances pushed and used resources for a war that won’t count. War rating has been screwed up now twice in 2 wars that don’t count. The state of AW is definitely not in a good place right now.
  • Matty_IceMatty_Ice Member Posts: 638 ★★★

    Matty_Ice said:

    So punish the alliances that used items and pushed for the win, solid

    It would have been nice to know much sooner that it wouldn’t have counted so those who didn’t want to push could not have pushed.

    It still affected war rating, which may or may not matter for some. The new scoring system makes being in a tier below for even 1 war almost impossible to overcome.
    Indeed war rating is very important which is why the first off-season war issue that was ignored is arguably more important then this current issue.
    Absolutely. Those alliances who were on the border between tier 2/3 or 3/4 got hosed as a result. Mathematically they can win every war and still finish a rank below where they should.
  • Tx_Quack_Attack6589Tx_Quack_Attack6589 Member Posts: 726 ★★★★
    Issue is they have never figured out how to fix war rating when issues like this happen, it has longer repercussions then a single war counting or not they need to figure out how to handle war rating it’s been long enough
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,492 ★★★★★
    edited March 7
    Wouldn't be surprised if it didn't count season points because the matchmaking took place off-season. Would be willing to bet that Kabam successfully broke even more by not touching things, rather than Kabam figuring out how to cancel the points from counting.
    Heck, they still haven't figured out the point removal from a couple seasons ago.
  • PenzitoPenzito Member Posts: 112
    This is getting frustrating. We got bounced from T3 in offseason. We lost -33, now gain that back +33 and still in T4. 3 weeks of lesser rewards and now 300K points short in first war. (Could be 600K with another win).

    I thought some of the top allies would have made a bigger deal of the war rating change in off-season.
  • Tx_Quack_Attack6589Tx_Quack_Attack6589 Member Posts: 726 ★★★★
    Penzito said:

    This is getting frustrating. We got bounced from T3 in offseason. We lost -33, now gain that back +33 and still in T4. 3 weeks of lesser rewards and now 300K points short in first war. (Could be 600K with another win).

    I thought some of the top allies would have made a bigger deal of the war rating change in off-season.

    Top alliances so far into t1 it’s less of an issue, it affects the alliances that are in the borders
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,466 ★★★★★
    So basically we used items for war rating, while Kabam had no communication about it. Nice
  • Matty_IceMatty_Ice Member Posts: 638 ★★★

    So basically we used items for war rating, while Kabam had no communication about it. Nice

    And still no communication about it….
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  • Zaphara22Zaphara22 Member Posts: 33
    @KabamDORK While I understand that Kabam might want to ascertain how many alliances were affected, it would stand to reason (at least in my view) that even if only one alliance was affected (and we know it was many more than that), then the war should not count, as that would be fundamentally unfair. The issue has now been exacerbated by the delay, because we have now matched for a second war based on a change in war rating that should not have been allowed to stand. Respectfully, I am struggling to understand why a definitive decision wasn’t made and communicated to everyone prior to the conclusion of that “first” war.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,492 ★★★★★
    Zaphara22 said:

    @KabamDORK While I understand that Kabam might want to ascertain how many alliances were affected, it would stand to reason (at least in my view) that even if only one alliance was affected (and we know it was many more than that), then the war should not count, as that would be fundamentally unfair. The issue has now been exacerbated by the delay, because we have now matched for a second war based on a change in war rating that should not have been allowed to stand. Respectfully, I am struggling to understand why a definitive decision wasn’t made and communicated to everyone prior to the conclusion of that “first” war.

    Alliances that did get to play a war with their usual setup didn't even get points, so they don't even have to figure out who was affected. This war was ruined for everyone.
  • Zaphara22Zaphara22 Member Posts: 33
    @Furrymoosen Apologies for my confusion, but are you indicating that the war did *not* count? If that’s the case, was that decision communicated elsewhere? All indications I see in game are that it counted.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,492 ★★★★★
    edited March 7
    Zaphara22 said:

    Furrymoosen Apologies for my confusion, but are you indicating that the war did *not* count? If that’s the case, was that decision communicated elsewhere? All indications I see in game are that it counted.

    Yes, the war did not count, but I don't believe it's because Kabam chose to make it not count. I think because matchmaking began before the season started according to the timer that it actually counted as an off-season war. Of course that doesn't help with the war rating, but whatever they did in not setting the season up properly impacted everyone. Whatever is going on is weirder than we first thought and they probably haven't figured out a lick of it yet.
  • Zaphara22Zaphara22 Member Posts: 33
    Our war rating was impacted by the loss. Were other alliances not affected?
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 5,492 ★★★★★
    Zaphara22 said:

    Our war rating was impacted by the loss. Were other alliances not affected?

    The war counted for war rating for everyone, but nothing else. This is probably the biggest kerfuffle that's happened with a single war. No one benefitted.
  • Darth_HulkDarth_Hulk Member Posts: 13
    KabamDORK said:

    @KabamDORK @KabamPinwheel
    We didn’t match for war because of the delay in the season starting. We set it as off for the offseason and 3bg during season. Matchmaking started with offseason settings. Hopefully this war doesn’t count or our season is already ruined.

    Checking back in here to see if all is good on this front for your ally now, and also for the wider group here.
    Now everything is back to normal now. We just macthed for war today. However, there is still the issue that we did not match for the first war because the system was initiated on off season settings. So that complete loss of points will significantly affect our entire season. That's why I was hoping that wednesdays war would not count to the season totals.
  • KabamDORKKabamDORK Administrator Posts: 141

    KabamDORK said:

    @KabamDORK @KabamPinwheel
    We didn’t match for war because of the delay in the season starting. We set it as off for the offseason and 3bg during season. Matchmaking started with offseason settings. Hopefully this war doesn’t count or our season is already ruined.

    Checking back in here to see if all is good on this front for your ally now, and also for the wider group here.
    Now everything is back to normal now. We just macthed for war today. However, there is still the issue that we did not match for the first war because the system was initiated on off season settings. So that complete loss of points will significantly affect our entire season. That's why I was hoping that wednesdays war would not count to the season totals.
    There were simultaneous issues happening there. We're still working on the loss of points aspect.
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,466 ★★★★★
    KabamDORK said:

    KabamDORK said:

    @KabamDORK @KabamPinwheel
    We didn’t match for war because of the delay in the season starting. We set it as off for the offseason and 3bg during season. Matchmaking started with offseason settings. Hopefully this war doesn’t count or our season is already ruined.

    Checking back in here to see if all is good on this front for your ally now, and also for the wider group here.
    Now everything is back to normal now. We just macthed for war today. However, there is still the issue that we did not match for the first war because the system was initiated on off season settings. So that complete loss of points will significantly affect our entire season. That's why I was hoping that wednesdays war would not count to the season totals.
    There were simultaneous issues happening there. We're still working on the loss of points aspect.
    Are you talking about loss of points after taking part in war which has happened or the apparent loss of points due to not matching up?
  • KabamDORKKabamDORK Administrator Posts: 141

    KabamDORK said:

    KabamDORK said:

    @KabamDORK @KabamPinwheel
    We didn’t match for war because of the delay in the season starting. We set it as off for the offseason and 3bg during season. Matchmaking started with offseason settings. Hopefully this war doesn’t count or our season is already ruined.

    Checking back in here to see if all is good on this front for your ally now, and also for the wider group here.
    Now everything is back to normal now. We just macthed for war today. However, there is still the issue that we did not match for the first war because the system was initiated on off season settings. So that complete loss of points will significantly affect our entire season. That's why I was hoping that wednesdays war would not count to the season totals.
    There were simultaneous issues happening there. We're still working on the loss of points aspect.
    Are you talking about loss of points after taking part in war which has happened or the apparent loss of points due to not matching up?
    Both of these actually. Working on a wider message that I'll share out hopefully in a bit.
  • MrbizznessMrbizzness Member Posts: 6
    Node 12 path 3 autoblock issue....
    It definitely feels like the autoblock is occurring more than 40% of the time. It doesn't help when players place enchantress on that node and the orange prompt shows up. I got burned by that rng. Hopefully kabam can address this issue. Can't be wasting resources like that at the beginning of the map
  • KabamDORKKabamDORK Administrator Posts: 141
    Okay everyone, sorry for that delay, but we have a plan of action and will update with timelines as soon as I have them. Please see the details of the post here: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/390731/issues-with-alliance-war-season-56
  • GarloGarlo Member Posts: 267 ★★
    edited March 8
    KabamDORK said:

    Okay everyone, sorry for that delay, but we have a plan of action and will update with timelines as soon as I have them. Please see the details of the post here: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/390731/issues-with-alliance-war-season-56

    Sorry but, what does mean exactly "we'll be awarding a BYE"?
  • BeeweeBeewee Member Posts: 564 ★★★★
    Garlo said:

    KabamDORK said:

    Okay everyone, sorry for that delay, but we have a plan of action and will update with timelines as soon as I have them. Please see the details of the post here: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/390731/issues-with-alliance-war-season-56

    Sorry but, what does mean "we'll be awarding a BYE"?
    Um yeah I have the same question do they get the full points for a win with a full donut (150-0)? Cause that seems extremely unfair but it would be unfair to give them anything less because you dont know how they would’ve performed
  • SligSlig Member Posts: 427 ★★★
    What about alliances who had the wrong number of bgs because it started matchmaking as an off season matchup? What about ones that had zero for off season and didn’t participate because of that?

    Your explanation is missing several of the key scenarios. I don’t understand why you just don’t cancel it and start the season over. It’s the easiest and most fair thing to do. And give some compensation if potions to everyone.
  • Darth_HulkDarth_Hulk Member Posts: 13
    KabamDORK said:

    Okay everyone, sorry for that delay, but we have a plan of action and will update with timelines as soon as I have them. Please see the details of the post here: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/390731/issues-with-alliance-war-season-56

    Thank you @KabamDORK
    Sounds like a reasonable fix

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