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I didn't have anything to do with this one. But from my perspective, if I know someone is cheating, I'm going to ban them as soon as I can. If it benefits someone then lucky them.

The only exception is I don't extend this courtesy to myself, since I know most of the time players don't get it. So if someone mods against me in Battlegrounds, I wait until I take the L and then I ban them. I also wonder wtf they were thinking since I have the Kabam banner on my profile picture now but I guess that's another story.

In my perspective this is actually a much bigger issue than it is present, specially since this is during the Brawler qualification.

Here are some points to consider -

In a Perfect Setting - All BG modder get ban instantly and the opponent get their winning point.

In Reality Setting:- BG modder win the match, opponents lost their point, BG modder get ban when a ban wave get done, but opponent still lost point.

Now of course we all want BG modders to be ban instantly and we are players doesn't get affected by their action, however in realise we all lost points and ranking to modders.

Let me be clear, this have nothing to do with Lagacy himself, it is more about the circumstances that create an unfair advantage against other fellow Summoners that are competitive for a place in the Brawler.

Circumstance 1:- Lagacy playing BG, his friends are watching (Fintech and Mike who are Kabam employees), they spotted a modder and banned them instantly, which mean Lagacy did not lost the match and point, and also gain point and ranking. Lagacy did nothing wrong, and in a perfect setting this is what we all would like to be in.

Circumstance 2:- Any other Summoners (who may not be in the social circle with Kabam staffs) and have no one from Kabam watching them play, who also competing for a place in the Brawler, match up again a modder, they lost the match, lost point, lost ranking, The modder got pick up in a week time and got ban, but the player have already lost their points and ranking.

We can clearly see it is an unfair playing field.

Like you have said @Kabam Crashed , when you play against a modder, even those you have the power to band them instantly, you choice not to, which I highly repeat. While what happen here, I believe everyone had the right (and ethical) reason for their action, under the current circumstances and had created an unethical situation, and I think would need to be review.

So is the solution to not ban the modder for everyone until the match is over?

Also, this is a very big one off, and not a norm that occurs.

Also, if they had not banned the cheater, they would subsequently play against other 'normal' players and make them lose points too. It's a win win anyway you look at it

Hi @AverageDesi ,

Actually under this circumstance, yes, the what we think is the wrong action would actually lead to the right outcome.

It should be done like what @Kabam Crashed does, let the match finish, and then band the modder right after, Lagacy might still win the match, he might lost, but whatever happened he would of gonna through the exactly motion like other fellow competitors, which create a fair playing field and one can day that certain players have advantage over the competition because who they know.

No. I suffered so everyone should suffer is a very destructive way of thinking.

I've faced a lot of modders and not once have it thought, "Man, if Kabam ever had the opportunity to ban the opponent mid match, they shouldn't ,and just let the player suffer".

Unfair implies intent. Kabam did not design a system where normal players have to fight modders and those who stream do not. This is a one off that happened by accident. If ever you decide to stream and are intersting enough to get a Kabam employee to watch you, they would do the same for you.

It's just a convenient coincidence. Not a manufactured inequality.

And you're pretending like Lagacy has never had to lose to a modder. That's not true.

I didn't have anything to do with this one. But from my perspective, if I know someone is cheating, I'm going to ban them as soon as I can. If it benefits someone then lucky them.

The only exception is I don't extend this courtesy to myself, since I know most of the time players don't get it. So if someone mods against me in Battlegrounds, I wait until I take the L and then I ban them. I also wonder wtf they were thinking since I have the Kabam banner on my profile picture now but I guess that's another story.

In my perspective this is actually a much bigger issue than it is present, specially since this is during the Brawler qualification.

Here are some points to consider -

In a Perfect Setting - All BG modder get ban instantly and the opponent get their winning point.

In Reality Setting:- BG modder win the match, opponents lost their point, BG modder get ban when a ban wave get done, but opponent still lost point.

Now of course we all want BG modders to be ban instantly and we are players doesn't get affected by their action, however in realise we all lost points and ranking to modders.

Let me be clear, this have nothing to do with Lagacy himself, it is more about the circumstances that create an unfair advantage against other fellow Summoners that are competitive for a place in the Brawler.

Circumstance 1:- Lagacy playing BG, his friends are watching (Fintech and Mike who are Kabam employees), they spotted a modder and banned them instantly, which mean Lagacy did not lost the match and point, and also gain point and ranking. Lagacy did nothing wrong, and in a perfect setting this is what we all would like to be in.

Circumstance 2:- Any other Summoners (who may not be in the social circle with Kabam staffs) and have no one from Kabam watching them play, who also competing for a place in the Brawler, match up again a modder, they lost the match, lost point, lost ranking, The modder got pick up in a week time and got ban, but the player have already lost their points and ranking.

We can clearly see it is an unfair playing field.

Like you have said @Kabam Crashed , when you play against a modder, even those you have the power to band them instantly, you choice not to, which I highly repeat. While what happen here, I believe everyone had the right (and ethical) reason for their action, under the current circumstances and had created an unethical situation, and I think would need to be review.

So is the solution to not ban the modder for everyone until the match is over?

Also, this is a very big one off, and not a norm that occurs.

Also, if they had not banned the cheater, they would subsequently play against other 'normal' players and make them lose points too. It's a win win anyway you look at it

Heard of YouTube?

Why would I watch a twenty minute video of some guy with an annoying voice narrating if there is a normal guide I can read in twenty seconds ?

Fair enough, just come to the forums and demand that we explain it to you. Much better than investing your own time to learn something on YT. Great call, OP.

Wow! 😑🤦‍♂️

Here's what I gathered from what OP was saying.
Firstly he mentioned what he thinks the mode works like.
Secondly, he asked a question and advice/guidance.

In Herbalman's head: "how dare you demand(?) that we explain the mode to you?"

You got real life issues, buddy.