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Overall, this loyalty thing is useless, dumb, and wasted the time of whoever put it together, but it doesn't fit in with monetization conversation.

Is it? Suppose you wanted to make the webstore more attractive to the majority of players who currently use the in-app purchase mechanism, but you didn't want to add too much bonus stuff or units or whatever that would have a significant impact on the game economy. How would you do that?

I wanna meet the person this moves the needle for. I got the great bag of magic beans for sale.

That's like saying you want to meet the person for whom a free cocktail moves the needle for first class flights that cost several thousand dollars. On the one hand,

Overall, this loyalty thing is useless, dumb, and wasted the time of whoever put it together, but it doesn't fit in with monetization conversation.

Is it? Suppose you wanted to make the webstore more attractive to the majority of players who currently use the in-app purchase mechanism, but you didn't want to add too much bonus stuff or units or whatever that would have a significant impact on the game economy. How would you do that?

I wanna meet the person this moves the needle for. I got the great bag of magic beans for sale.

That's like saying you want to meet the person for whom a free cocktail moves the needle for first class flights that cost several thousand dollars. On the one hand, no one person is going to admit that it would. On the other hand, no airline is going to find out by getting rid of it and seeing how many passengers they lose.

No it’s not. One is an established service offering customers expect and are used to the other is a brand new unknown thing meant to entice new users priced in the stratosphere.

Not sure why you are so stuck on defending what’s objectively indefensibly priced.

If you think your perspective is either objective or reasonable, I do not believe I’m capable of eliminating your confusion in this regard.

I’m not the one stuck on anything. I’m just explaining my position, like I always do. Tomorrow I’ll be “stuck” on something else. As this is not my design, I’m not in a position to defend it from anything. I simply find it reasonable, and trivial to justify from a design perspective. The fact that some people see these things as “prices” even though they aren’t, and “too high” even though they are intended to be high, is something you have to defend, as the person choosing to attempt to promote a novel philosophy.

All I have to say is: I don’t think anyone who reaches the position of game economy designer would see it that way. You’re the one that has to somehow convince them to adopt your perspective. Good luck with that.

I don’t need to be a game economy designer to see how poorly this is priced but sure let’s put up those airs….

You don't need to be anything to see anything however you want.

You do need to find an economy designer who agrees with you to change it. They aren't going to do it because of your sparkling personality.

lol so you’re just gonna re-quote me to repeat the same tired arguments I already rebutted, but dropping the context you must not have a strong counter point for… alrighty then.

Pssttt… your bias is showing

I'm a huge cynic so take my post with a grain of salt.

I can argue that MCOC is in a horrible state as of right now and I can argue that this is the lowest point for us as the players.

Why, you ask? Well:

1. The blatant P2W edge (Lumatrix, Dark Phoenix)
2. The constant horrible big spending events (like Banq, for example. Worst offender: 10th anniversary Banq)
3. Out of pocket questionable BG metas
4. Bugs and issues
5. False bans (I know it's fixed but how are we sure that it won't happen again in the future? Do we have to play in shadows, in fear of getting another false ban?)
6. Defender one sided, biased characters (Photon, Yelena, Serpent, Bullseye, Zola, Danos, etc). I know the existence of these champions revolutionalizes the game and feels fresh but when this trope is repeated 80% of the time it becomes harmful to the game (then Kabam attempts to create a hard counter for the previous champ but ends up failing, resulting in another attempted counter, but also failing, then you know the character design is flawed).

After getting 2 horrible BG metas back to back, I'm hugely disappointed at Kabam. Do they even test the game?

I just feel like it's really offensive that this meta plays heavily on avoiding blocking and parrying but when SP attacks like War Machine's sp1, Mangog's sp2, Pun2099, etc exist, then how do you work around this?

Surely your tip for us players isn't "Just don't allow them to use undexable SPs lol" then you slap Block Penetration, Energize, and Power Gain on top of that as a mockery to us players.

With that reflected stun meta last season, it's offensive that the node forbids us player from doing the one thing that can mess the whole fight up, yet the dex/parry input is so horrible that dexes are registered as parries.

Please wake up and make MCOC great again. As a Veteran (9 year title), this game today isn't the game I loved years ago.