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No one is refunded money from all these years. That's how the game has always worked. As for your assertion, those are your words, not theirs.
They have no control over whether people download the game through other methods, but they certainly have the right to enforce it if they detect it through different screening methods.

I never said they didn't have a right, but its unethical to sell a product or service that you know people shouldn't have access to it and then tell them "Oh well you were not allowed to have access to it in the first place"
You are going to tell me they just found out after 10 years that MCoC was unavailable for regular download in China? That the game had to be "sideloaded"? They never saw screenshots of that weird screen that actually asked for a government issue ID? Cause I have and I don't even work for Kabam.
This is not just about the ban, this is about potential 10 years of people buying stuff from Kabam and now being told they have no access to it because even after the suspension they won't have a way to access the game. Unless they find a way to officially give them access.

You're assuming they knew people were installing it illegitimately, overlooked it, and now pulled the rug out from under them. There is zero evidence that Kabam has encouraged this behavior.

You can't be serious to tell me they didn't know for 10 years that China has a ban on google store rofl come on dude.

Did Kabam encourage Chinese players to skirt that?

They could have restricted purchases and access from the whole region. They still took their money.
You can use a VPN to access I will give you that. Now you can't VPN a credit card origin, the geolocation to use it yes, the source of the financial institution you can't.
And lets not forget that while they were developing this "new technology" they opened a webstore. The webstore itself could have restricted access from this regions since they are playing in a illegitimate way.

Sorry for me being such a d**khead 2 days ago
And thank you for making sense this time

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No one is refunded money from all these years. That's how the game has always worked. As for your assertion, those are your words, not theirs.
They have no control over whether people download the game through other methods, but they certainly have the right to enforce it if they detect it through different screening methods.

I never said they didn't have a right, but its unethical to sell a product or service that you know people shouldn't have access to it and then tell them "Oh well you were not allowed to have access to it in the first place"
You are going to tell me they just found out after 10 years that MCoC was unavailable for regular download in China? That the game had to be "sideloaded"? They never saw screenshots of that weird screen that actually asked for a government issue ID? Cause I have and I don't even work for Kabam.
This is not just about the ban, this is about potential 10 years of people buying stuff from Kabam and now being told they have no access to it because even after the suspension they won't have a way to access the game. Unless they find a way to officially give them access.

You're assuming they knew people were installing it illegitimately, overlooked it, and now pulled the rug out from under them. There is zero evidence that Kabam has encouraged this behavior.

You can't be serious to tell me they didn't know for 10 years that China has a ban on google store rofl come on dude.

Did Kabam encourage Chinese players to skirt that?

Then Kabam should ban all Android players from China, they all downloaded from somewhere else,
why it is so hard for you guys to admit this big-beautiful anti-cheater system is totally a mistake?

I don't think its a mistake, but I do think they need to come out with some solution for region restrictions, specially if those players affected paid money.

Yep, if this is a completely different item with no compatibility with the current relics, it needs to have a different name from what we have. I do recall that, originally, relics was going to be an all-encompassing term for several different things. What we have now are actually a subset of relics called battlecasts. So hopefully these have a distinct name from that. We have to have a way of referring to these without people thinking we're talking about the "old" relics.

If they are distinct, does that mean we can stick one of them on a champ that already has a "battlecast," so they'll have two enhancements at once?

See the original announcement talking about multiple "kinds" of relics:

Relics are a new collectible coming to The Contest in November! The first to be introduced are Battlecasts, a Relic that can be Bound to Champions of the same class to greatly enhance their ability. During combat, having a Relic will allow the summoning of a Striker to lend assistance...

So, stop calling the current things relics generically. They're "battlecasts." If they stick to their original plan, these new things will be relics, but not battlecasts. They'll be a new subset of relics called something else, like "power-ups."

1. For people like us who are not banned do we receive any compensation being amongst cheats for such a long time and some being let go with warning? 🤣 or I guess being faithful or fair is taken granted then.

2. If downloading game from any unauthorised source doesn't give any unfair advantage then couldn't a better solution would have been a warning through mail and a deadline for those using - to avoid this chaos

No, and no.

No, its highly unlikely Kabam is going to be rewarding players just for the accomplishment of following the rules.

No, a warning through email would not be better. Kabam has sent email notifications warning players to not use any unauthorized software. That includes emulators, modded clients, or any software not distributed by them. They have sent these out constantly, and yet I keep hearing people say they never saw them. People don't watch the streams, they don't read the forums, and they only pay attention to in-game emails when there's rewards attached.

The problem with unauthorized software or software distributed by unauthorized sources is there's no way to tell if it has been altered in some subtle way. Kabam can't trust the game is doing the right things all of the time, and can't even trust its own anti-cheat systems built into a client anyone could have tampered with.

I've worked in IT security for over thirty years. You can't detect everything. You can't prevent everything. Whether we're talking about games, banks, or NORAD. You have to act on what you do detect, and you have to make sure people can't just keep trying over and over again or eventually they'll get lucky and evade detection.

We keep telling people not to do a whole laundry list of things, and yet they keep doing them. They do them because they don't know any better. Because they do know, but don't care. Because they think they have no choice. Because they think they can get away with it. Regardless, at some point Kabam has to take direct action to not just advise people to stop, but take action to stop them. And apparently that time is now.

This is not about banning cheaters. This is about banning a behavior that enables cheaters. Some of the players banned were probably not cheating. But they were helping to normalize an environment that assists cheating. And that's enough.

Not all people who use unofficial channels to download games do so in order to cheat. People in some regions just cannot use official channels. They download the game because they like it and even spend money to support it, so don't they deserve better treatment?

Did you even read what I wrote? You quoted it and everything.

I am not here to argue or debate with others, I am here to speak out against injustice. This wave of bans has hurt the hearts of many players. They are beginning to feel disappointed and frustrated with this game company. Shouldn't this be taken seriously? Can you please stop using the so-called TOS to shut up players? Isn't it the lax TOS that caused this incident?

I don't think they took such a bold decision without taking it serious. They probably knew how frustrated and disappointed some people would be and did it anyway.

I don't think they know, they wouldn't have done it on Friday if they knew.

I played this game for almost 9 years, and I'm very sure Kabam made some mistakes and underestimated players reactions from time to time. They will not admit most of the time, but they make changes silently. If you remember, Kabam crashed posted a very long article to explain why they designed the banquet 2023 in that way, and didn't admit they screwed up, but they reverted all their 2023 designs in 2024. There are many examples like this.

1. For people like us who are not banned do we receive any compensation being amongst cheats for such a long time and some being let go with warning? 🤣 or I guess being faithful or fair is taken granted then.

2. If downloading game from any unauthorised source doesn't give any unfair advantage then couldn't a better solution would have been a warning through mail and a deadline for those using - to avoid this chaos

No, and no.

No, its highly unlikely Kabam is going to be rewarding players just for the accomplishment of following the rules.

No, a warning through email would not be better. Kabam has sent email notifications warning players to not use any unauthorized software. That includes emulators, modded clients, or any software not distributed by them. They have sent these out constantly, and yet I keep hearing people say they never saw them. People don't watch the streams, they don't read the forums, and they only pay attention to in-game emails when there's rewards attached.

The problem with unauthorized software or software distributed by unauthorized sources is there's no way to tell if it has been altered in some subtle way. Kabam can't trust the game is doing the right things all of the time, and can't even trust its own anti-cheat systems built into a client anyone could have tampered with.

I've worked in IT security for over thirty years. You can't detect everything. You can't prevent everything. Whether we're talking about games, banks, or NORAD. You have to act on what you do detect, and you have to make sure people can't just keep trying over and over again or eventually they'll get lucky and evade detection.

We keep telling people not to do a whole laundry list of things, and yet they keep doing them. They do them because they don't know any better. Because they do know, but don't care. Because they think they have no choice. Because they think they can get away with it. Regardless, at some point Kabam has to take direct action to not just advise people to stop, but take action to stop them. And apparently that time is now.

This is not about banning cheaters. This is about banning a behavior that enables cheaters. Some of the players banned were probably not cheating. But they were helping to normalize an environment that assists cheating. And that's enough.

Not all people who use unofficial channels to download games do so in order to cheat. People in some regions just cannot use official channels. They download the game because they like it and even spend money to support it, so don't they deserve better treatment?

Did you even read what I wrote? You quoted it and everything.