**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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Problem solved right?
base attack +recoil attack bonus +matery bonus +Abilities attack bonus = damage.
For CAIW (bad example btw) he is getting,
base +recoil (30%) +abilities (550%) = damage.
That’s why the recoil bonus looks so damn small because its close to 5% of his other bonuses.
Here is what I gathered with Corvus, you can see each hit gets the bonus.
Yeah, I did actually. You say its our responsibility to understand these mechanics. OK. Please point me to where ingame these explanations are given.
If these things are explained in that much depth somewhere I have neglected to look, I would really like to be pointed in the right direction. If there are no detailed explanations anywhere to be found ingame, where and how do we get this valuable info?
So kabam has double standards, scale by base attack to assist player but scale by current HP so player dishes out more than what they asked?
@Kabam Miike @Kabam Lyra
So kabam has double standards, scale by base attack to assist player but scale by current HP so player dishes out more than what they asked?
@Kabam Miike @Kabam Lyra
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Recoil damage doesn’t even scale to current health. It scales to what your overall (boosted) health is at the start of the fight....
1 "increase damage of special attacks by 30% of ALL your champions" is not the same as "increase your Basic stack by 30% when launching a special attack of ALL your champions " so you (KABAM) have to admit that the mastery is broken!! No dispute there .. that is the truth
2 the best way to see this is, as many people say Corvus Glave has a big difference in damage when suicide are active.. but that is because you (KABAM) advertised him that way , you made him for suicide mastery .. the problem is that those masterys are for ALL champions and are clearly not working on ALL champions .. CORVUS GLAVE is the proof that the mastery is BROKEN!!
For example if Deep wounds would work only on BLADE .. what would you (KABM) say then?
Really waiting for a reply ..
Now whether or not it is working 100% as advertised or expected, I cant say, but its doing something.
Nice. Thanks for posting that. I’ll have to try 1-2-3 recoil out again without suicides on a few champs with multiple hit specials.
I never said it's your responsibility to know these things. And I agree that there's no good official source or explanation for how damage boosts work, Kabam should improve on that for sure. Most of what I learned are from many community postings, info from alliance mates, testing things myself, and just playing the game. It's okay not to know these things. You just shouldn't be so surprised and shocked when a complicated mechanic like damage boosts, which you said had no idea how it worked, turns out not to work exactly like you thought it would.
No, definitely not surprised. Disappointed might be a more accurate description here.
But all that said, IMO this is not the issue that its being made out to be. As I described in my post above, I recently unlocked suicides, and they are undeniably effective.
That also means Rogue and Loki are getting a theoretical Nerf to the face being the best and most popular Buff-Stealers in the game because those buffs are not increasing your Reocil damage because it’s based of of Base Attack, not enhanced (buffs) Attack damage!
Unsurprising
Can be saying that a lot lately
Did you also have glass cannon on for your no recoil testing?
After testing with Blade, he’s one of the very few that even could be considered worth it and that’s due to his strong regen. His 9-hit L2 only hits for about 8k more with 3/3 recoil. At 5-65 his base attack is 2640 for bonuses of 792/1188/1584. Doing the math does turn out close to 60% more for champs like Blade, Corvus, Medusa, and Carnage with basic specials. I think Corvus is in there because he’s only hitting crits and getting more of the raw damage through on less than half the hits. For champs with lots of bonuses and modifications to their special damage, definitely not worth it.
I might rethink that about champs with other bonuses though if you’re using s3’s or they can recoup recoil since more damage is always a good thing if you don’t have to pay for it.
I’m feeling that it’s better to go with 1/3 recoil and suicides. I tried AQ/EQ with 3/3 recoil and no suicides and I don’t think the juice was worth the squeeze even with Blade able to regen the recoil most of the time.
Anyway, I’m on the side of recoil isn’t broken. The description is bad and needs to be rewritten and the implementation isn’t very good with how complicated and passive/modifier/rng heavy newer champs are.
Another question, why jump through the hoop of the clunky obscured attack calculation when Rulk does the exact same thing but with exceedingly clear percentage-based increased special attack damage on all attacks after heat charges? Why couldn’t they use the same tech for recoil and prowess?