Unstoppable is not really the problem. The fact that the AI has been keyed to attack while unstoppable and turtle while not unstoppable is the real problem. That's actually what a human being would do in a head to head PvP game when they were not trying to win, they were just trying to troll the competition.
I hope they don't see our venting/complaints/frustrations with the node as a sign to experiment with the Brawl node some more..
Such as:
Killmonger, Hyperion, Thing, or Korg with
Brawl and a rage node. Brawl and Unstoppable under 25%.
I will say this, all things considered: I am not an endgame player; I have not completed a single run of Labyrinth. I still need to do three runs of Act 5. My roster is...OK. I need a few more pieces and resources, one more lane clearer at a high-end level. I am a decent to maybe slightly above-average player. I understand how the game works, have gotten much better at intercepting over the last few months.
All that said: The single-worst experience I have ever had in this game was fighting Kingpin on Brawl. It wasn't fun. There was nothing fun about it. I didn't learn anything from it, there was no trickery to it.
Brawl mainly sucks in my opinion because of the short window you have to attack before the unstoppable triggers. Most champs aren’t harder with brawl, it just makes fights so unreasonably slow that fights with it are not fun at all.
I got Brawl/Ocsillate Hyperion twice today, couldn't get past either of them without revives, so I just didn't bother. Absolute joke of a fight. All you do is bait specials and dodge unstoppable. And how is a 30 minute boost any good when each fight takes like 10 minutes?
50k Mephisto, Hyperion, Mordo and BPCW in the same run? For 500 5* shards and a 5* sig stone? Nah, I'm good thanks, not even close to worth the effort/resources...
I think rewards in general need to be looked at though, champions clash was pointless, the maze was pointless, these trials are okay ish, but it depends completely on RNG, it could be as easier than act 4, or harder than act 5. So bored of being at the mercy of RNG, crystals are 1 thing, but it's annoying when it's done in game play as well, no need for it. How is it fair that some can get super easy runs while others get all the Icemen, Hyperions, Medusas, Mephisto etc.
Personally the vast majority of my trials I've had the hardest possible fights, it's not fun, it's just annoying...
I want to also b!$%* about Hyperion with brawl/oscillate. When he gets the armor up for 15 seconds, guess what, he goes completely defensive. it is impossible (that I know of) to bait a special during that time. So, you guessed it, he has power gain to an sp3 straight to your ko, and that happens before you can do anything to mitigate. Nothing you can do about it. AND what about gambler's fate?. I have degen on top of it, or bleed, or poison. AWSOME!! Oh, but you might say, use Iceman. Well, I didn't bring one because my team was busy trying to account for all the other BS that I might encounter. And even if I did, as Karnage states that you bait and dodge unstoppable the rest of the time, dealing no damage. A true laugh I tell ya, the Devs must be rolf. I posted before here about how there are too many things that can stack up to completely screw you in a fight (the ridiculously stacked RNG, and other timers, limits, etc) in trials on a couple days, and in particular, the last culmination day, AND you can not possibly prepare a team to deal with all of the possibilities.
Last, since you are locked in to one try, there is no recourse, but to take the absolute BS setup against you with using a lot of revives or just quit out without a subsequent try. What a great time!!
Again I agree, the 30 minutes boosts are also insufficient. It just adds to the stress.
My biggest issue is that the timer for the next brawl begins right when the defender goes unstoppable. So there's no time in between. This is a big reason i hate some nodes now. They should let the unstoppable play out and then let the timer start for the next one
Parry, two hits, parry, two hits, unstoppable over. I had trouble with this node combo initially, but after a while it became fairly easy. It’s just a different style of fight. I will say that it is rather boring. Oscillate armor kicks in and they just sit there, so I just sit there. Then, unstoppable parry method begins again.
I know this thread is old but better than starting a new one...
The Brawl node on the SoP Rogue fight is a joke. It states that both champions become unstoppable, but that’s not what happens. What happens is the word unstoppable appears for both champs, but you can guarantee it just gives the AI champ a license to beat you down. No matter when/how/whatever type of attack I use, it’s always interrupted by the AI champ who then cannot be stopped.
Maybe that is how it is intended to work, but that’s not what the node explains.
Anyway, I’m not wasting anymore time on that fight. Congrats to all that mastered it 👍
I know this thread is old but better than starting a new one...
The Brawl node on the SoP Rogue fight is a joke. It states that both champions become unstoppable, but that’s not what happens. What happens is the word unstoppable appears for both champs, but you can guarantee it just gives the AI champ a license to beat you down. No matter when/how/whatever type of attack I use, it’s always interrupted by the AI champ who then cannot be stopped.
Maybe that is how it is intended to work, but that’s not what the node explains.
Anyway, I’m not wasting anymore time on that fight. Congrats to all that mastered it 👍
Who were you using? Each time I ran it both rogue and I were unstoppable unless a slow effect was in place. She just hits like a truck when you guys are acting like puppets slapping each other
I know this thread is old but better than starting a new one...
The Brawl node on the SoP Rogue fight is a joke. It states that both champions become unstoppable, but that’s not what happens. What happens is the word unstoppable appears for both champs, but you can guarantee it just gives the AI champ a license to beat you down. No matter when/how/whatever type of attack I use, it’s always interrupted by the AI champ who then cannot be stopped.
Maybe that is how it is intended to work, but that’s not what the node explains.
Anyway, I’m not wasting anymore time on that fight. Congrats to all that mastered it 👍
Who were you using? Each time I ran it both rogue and I were unstoppable unless a slow effect was in place. She just hits like a truck when you guys are acting like puppets slapping each other
Tried with several. Tried both Spidergwen and She Hulk, but can’t get an Sp1 thrown before she’s attacking.
Yes she hits like a truck. What I also don’t understand is I’ve seen screenshots of fights which have been won, and they’ve been hit 39 times, using Dragon Man. How on earth has someone taken 39 hits from that Rogue and not been killed?!
I know this thread is old but better than starting a new one...
The Brawl node on the SoP Rogue fight is a joke. It states that both champions become unstoppable, but that’s not what happens. What happens is the word unstoppable appears for both champs, but you can guarantee it just gives the AI champ a license to beat you down. No matter when/how/whatever type of attack I use, it’s always interrupted by the AI champ who then cannot be stopped.
Maybe that is how it is intended to work, but that’s not what the node explains.
Anyway, I’m not wasting anymore time on that fight. Congrats to all that mastered it 👍
Who were you using? Each time I ran it both rogue and I were unstoppable unless a slow effect was in place. She just hits like a truck when you guys are acting like puppets slapping each other
Tried with several. Tried both Spidergwen and She Hulk, but can’t get an Sp1 thrown before she’s attacking.
Yes she hits like a truck. What I also don’t understand is I’ve seen screenshots of fights which have been won, and they’ve been hit 39 times, using Dragon Man. How on earth has someone taken 39 hits from that Rogue and not been killed?!
You don’t need a slow champ to do this fight. Champions with power gain like ghost, Hyperion, vision Aarkus are all great options you can solo with, throwing sp3 to make space for yourself.
I’ve soloed with prof X, spider Gwen, ghost. I’ve seen she hulk, black Panther classic, I hulk, tigra all do it. Most champs can do it if you play well
You don’t need a slow champ to do this fight. Champions with power gain like ghost, Hyperion, vision Aarkus are all great options you can solo with, throwing sp3 to make space for yourself.
I’ve soloed with prof X, spider Gwen, ghost. I’ve seen she hulk, black Panther classic, I hulk, tigra all do it. Most champs can do it if you play well
Even Shang chi can do it he can remove the unstoppable thought
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Act 4 Juggs on Slashed Tires with his Unstoppable. Worst. Than. Collector.
Such as:
Killmonger, Hyperion, Thing, or Korg with
Brawl and a rage node. Brawl and Unstoppable under 25%.
All that said: The single-worst experience I have ever had in this game was fighting Kingpin on Brawl. It wasn't fun. There was nothing fun about it. I didn't learn anything from it, there was no trickery to it.
It just was a horrible experience.
50k Mephisto, Hyperion, Mordo and BPCW in the same run? For 500 5* shards and a 5* sig stone? Nah, I'm good thanks, not even close to worth the effort/resources...
I think rewards in general need to be looked at though, champions clash was pointless, the maze was pointless, these trials are okay ish, but it depends completely on RNG, it could be as easier than act 4, or harder than act 5. So bored of being at the mercy of RNG, crystals are 1 thing, but it's annoying when it's done in game play as well, no need for it. How is it fair that some can get super easy runs while others get all the Icemen, Hyperions, Medusas, Mephisto etc.
Personally the vast majority of my trials I've had the hardest possible fights, it's not fun, it's just annoying...
I want to also b!$%* about Hyperion with brawl/oscillate. When he gets the armor up for 15 seconds, guess what, he goes completely defensive. it is impossible (that I know of) to bait a special during that time. So, you guessed it, he has power gain to an sp3 straight to your ko, and that happens before you can do anything to mitigate. Nothing you can do about it. AND what about gambler's fate?. I have degen on top of it, or bleed, or poison. AWSOME!! Oh, but you might say, use Iceman. Well, I didn't bring one because my team was busy trying to account for all the other BS that I might encounter. And even if I did, as Karnage states that you bait and dodge unstoppable the rest of the time, dealing no damage. A true laugh I tell ya, the Devs must be rolf. I posted before here about how there are too many things that can stack up to completely screw you in a fight (the ridiculously stacked RNG, and other timers, limits, etc) in trials on a couple days, and in particular, the last culmination day, AND you can not possibly prepare a team to deal with all of the possibilities.
Last, since you are locked in to one try, there is no recourse, but to take the absolute BS setup against you with using a lot of revives or just quit out without a subsequent try. What a great time!!
Again I agree, the 30 minutes boosts are also insufficient. It just adds to the stress.
The Brawl node on the SoP Rogue fight is a joke. It states that both champions become unstoppable, but that’s not what happens. What happens is the word unstoppable appears for both champs, but you can guarantee it just gives the AI champ a license to beat you down. No matter when/how/whatever type of attack I use, it’s always interrupted by the AI champ who then cannot be stopped.
Maybe that is how it is intended to work, but that’s not what the node explains.
Anyway, I’m not wasting anymore time on that fight. Congrats to all that mastered it 👍
Yes she hits like a truck. What I also don’t understand is I’ve seen screenshots of fights which have been won, and they’ve been hit 39 times, using Dragon Man. How on earth has someone taken 39 hits from that Rogue and not been killed?!
I’ve soloed with prof X, spider Gwen, ghost. I’ve seen she hulk, black Panther classic, I hulk, tigra all do it. Most champs can do it if you play well