Hitting into block being countered by specials. [Merged Threads]

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  • samalasravansamalasravan Posts: 69
    Yeah just know happened to me while fight against kingpin in map 5 boss
    Kabam plz do something
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 492 ★★★
    Here’s another fight I just recorded... it happened 3 times in succession with WS.



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  • JestressJestress Posts: 890 ★★★
    i've had this happen as well. while opponent is blocking too, they will drop out of their block and fire a special. the only ones i know can do this normally are modok and medusa, but other champs are doing it too.
  • Run477Run477 Posts: 1,190 ★★★
    I was just going to post about this bs bug.

    iPhone 6s. Around 12:30 pm central time. Node 55 status immune miniboss. I was usin r5 omega red. Opponent was r5 Emma Frost.

    I am hitting into her blocked hits when she was at one bar of power. Then between my third and fourth hits (my hits were medium, light, light, light), she launches an l1.

    This bug has happened since 22.1 was introduced. The number of bugs in this update is unacceptable. Stop messing with AI reaction timing if you are going to screw up the game like this. No way should a champion that is blocking hits be able to launch an l1 in the middle of those blocked hits.
  • Run477Run477 Posts: 1,190 ★★★
    And yes, precisely like in the video above. Middle of blocking hits, AI just launches special. Bs
  • deaddead Posts: 5
    Nice examples OP. Have been following a lot of these posts waiting for some kind of statement or acknowledgement and still nothing. Really sucks when hitting into block is a key part of a fight's strategy. Invade nodes, building sentinel's analysis charges, keeping omega red's spores up, building power to bait a special, etc. Players can't launch specials in the middle of blocking a combo, why can the ai?
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 492 ★★★
    dead said:

    Really sucks when hitting into block is a key part of a fight's strategy. Invade nodes, building sentinel's analysis charges, keeping omega red's spores up, building power to bait a special, etc.

    Agreed... a major part of Masacre’s strategy is hitting into blocks.

    It’s part of his ability set.


  • NojokejaymNojokejaym Posts: 1,211 ★★★
    you know when an AI is attacking into your block you can do the same thing i guess it's only fair lol
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 492 ★★★

    you know when an AI is attacking into your block you can do the same thing i guess it's only fair lol

    Since when?
  • NojokejaymNojokejaym Posts: 1,211 ★★★

    you know when an AI is attacking into your block you can do the same thing i guess it's only fair lol

    Since when?
    well i've been doing that for awhile now
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 492 ★★★

    you know when an AI is attacking into your block you can do the same thing i guess it's only fair lol

    Since when?
    well i've been doing that for awhile now
    You can not activate a special while holding block, so I doubt it.
  • NojokejaymNojokejaym Posts: 1,211 ★★★

    you know when an AI is attacking into your block you can do the same thing i guess it's only fair lol

    Since when?
    well i've been doing that for awhile now
    You can not activate a special while holding block, so I doubt it.
    well let go of your block then activate it, you gotta be really quick
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Posts: 1,068 ★★★

    you know when an AI is attacking into your block you can do the same thing i guess it's only fair lol

    Since when?
    well i've been doing that for awhile now
    You can not activate a special while holding block, so I doubt it.
    well let go of your block then activate it, you gotta be really quick
    You can just about barely pull it off if they do one of those slow combos, no way you’d pull it off if the AI attacked into your block at the speed in those videos
  • NojokejaymNojokejaym Posts: 1,211 ★★★

    you know when an AI is attacking into your block you can do the same thing i guess it's only fair lol

    Since when?
    well i've been doing that for awhile now
    You can not activate a special while holding block, so I doubt it.
    well let go of your block then activate it, you gotta be really quick
    You can just about barely pull it off if they do one of those slow combos, no way you’d pull it off if the AI attacked into your block at the speed in those videos
    i will make a video
  • addisonbassistaddisonbassist Posts: 492 ★★★

    you know when an AI is attacking into your block you can do the same thing i guess it's only fair lol

    Since when?
    well i've been doing that for awhile now
    You can not activate a special while holding block, so I doubt it.
    well let go of your block then activate it, you gotta be really quick
    You can just about barely pull it off if they do one of those slow combos, no way you’d pull it off if the AI attacked into your block at the speed in those videos
    i will make a video
    I’ve tested it myself and I was unable to do anything while blocking a full-speed uninterrupted combo chain.

    Once you’re blocking and getting hit, your champ is effectively locked. This is the same reason why you can’t dex out of a combo or special halfway through.

    If the defender quickly ends in a medium or switches to a heavy mid-combo, then you should be able to counter the medium or intercept the heavy. Or, if the combo is slow or not chained, then you can quickly counter with a special.

    However, the AI behavior in those videos is not possible by any human I’m aware of. I’ve watched hundreds of YouTube videos by some of the best players and I’ve never seen anyone pull that off.

    Looking forward to your video... love to be proved wrong.
  • GmonkeyGmonkey Posts: 424
    Same for sentinel as well. Sucks to get hit while hitting into their block
  • SidDDragonSidDDragon Posts: 664 ★★
    Faced the same thing in aq while using Omega red...I have noticed that it mostly happens between 3rd and 4th hit into the block..this AI behaviour is really BS and should be reversed..and despite the number of threads on the topic along with a few other bugs,there has been complete silence from the mods
    But there are a couple of people I have seen claim that they are gods and can use a special or counter the defender when it is hitting into their block..I would love to see videos on their brand new iphones if possible
  • RookM1RookM1 Posts: 14
    Same here...I've got an R4 and 6star Masacre, hitting in to the defenders block is party of that champs play style, designed by you Kabam, kinda lame if you're going to change the rules of the game and punish players for playing these characters the way you designed them.
  • NikskiniNikskini Posts: 237
    I was fighting quake in map5 with venom the duck and she twice throw specials in middle of combo
  • Jamesf680Jamesf680 Posts: 3
    I was in the middle of a combo and the AI I was fighting against used a special? how does that happen if I am in the middle of punching him @Kabam Miike @Kabam Lyra
  • This happened to me yesterday in eq&aq and today in aq& the bounty mission, can't wait to die tonight in war and getting blamed for causing a lose, thanks kabam
  • JamesBulaJamesBula Posts: 13
    Jestress said:

    i've had this happen as well. while opponent is blocking too, they will drop out of their block and fire a special. the only ones i know can do this normally are modok and medusa, but other champs are doing it too.

    why is it normal for modok/medusa to do this?
  • JamesBulaJamesBula Posts: 13

    I've experienced this as well.

    2. You'd hit into his block and he'd try to attack. Since the player was already attacking, this would appear as a dropped block on Modok's part, meaning he'd block the first 2 hits and then start receiving hits mid-combo.

    This happened to me twice in war (giving up 2 kills)
    to me also; I knew modok is special but he shouldn't be able to plain hit-you in the middle of your combo.
  • HaminHamin Posts: 2,447 ★★★★★
    Yeah... been a big issue.

    RIP Masacre.
  • Mirage_TurtleMirage_Turtle Posts: 1,070 ★★★
    JamesBula said:

    Jestress said:

    i've had this happen as well. while opponent is blocking too, they will drop out of their block and fire a special. the only ones i know can do this normally are modok and medusa, but other champs are doing it too.

    why is it normal for modok/medusa to do this?
    I can't speak to the Medusa portion, but as for MODOK...he's bugged.

    MODOK is able to behave this way because of a bug that exists in the game; his description doesn't say anything about having the ability to perform actions while blocking. Unfortunately, as a community, our silence on the matter has been interpreted as acceptance by Kabam. I think people are forgiving on this matter because the bug came about after MODOK's original bug was fixed. When he was originally released, MODOK was able to Parry every time he autoblocked, which was VERY problematic in AW. I think when that bug went away, people stopped paying attention to MODOK even though he's still bugged.

    This bug has now been expanded to every other champ in the game. It goes into some more detail here:

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/131901/hitting-into-block-being-countered-by-specials#latest

    Hopefully enough people will comment on this issue that Kabam will take notice and fix it.
  • DraenathDraenath Posts: 237
    You can not start the AW season with the game like this - this is ridiculous!!!!

    Just fought a node and twice the AI threw specials while blocking! There better be some mean compensation for this!
  • This has happened to me several times with various champs. Defender will launch a special while hitting into a block or be able to dash out of blocked hits and hit me.
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