Back Issues #2: Mystery in the Microrealm

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  • Wakandas_FinestWakandas_Finest Posts: 296 ★★
    V1PER1987 said:


    V1PER1987 said:

    Just once I’d love to have a thread where there are not a bunch of Whiners complaining about free stuff

    Free stuff? How is this free stuff? It’s not given to us by logging in and collecting from the calendar.
    Free in the sense that you don’t have to spend real money on them. I suppose you have to spend time. But as the saying goes if you don’t like it don’t waste your time doing it.

    Besides let’s be real no one is running these back issues for the 2015 gems. If they weren’t included people would still run them for the t5b shards 4-5 gem and 5* awakening crystal
    In the first Variant, there actually was a reason to run the quests for the 2015 gems. There are a lot of solid champs that people would like to rank but not use their resources. Luke, Hawkeye, WS, Magik, and SL are just a few examples. The precedent has already been set already too. They can’t make Back Issues 2 less lucrative than 1. That would just be illogical. And to continue to give 2015 champ rank up gems when a lot of them aren’t even available as a 5* is silly.
    Couple of things. What if you ran the first variant and still didn’t get the class rank up you needed here is another opportunity to rank up those champs. This was originally a 2015 quest why would you expect 2016 gems? Obviously the theme is to match the gems with the year the quest originated.
  • The problem I have with limiting these rank up gems to only 2015 champs is that I no longer am willing to rank up 2015 champs by standard means. I just awakened my starlord but will not rank him up because I dont need him, even though he'd be nice to rank up, if i pull a tech gem all other options are not good options.
  • RagamugginGunnerRagamugginGunner Posts: 1,973 ★★★★★
    85% chance to glance and get damage back if you don't use an XL, but Kabam said they didn't want us to feel like we HAD to have certain champs to get through the content.
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    edited April 5

    V1PER1987 said:


    V1PER1987 said:

    Just once I’d love to have a thread where there are not a bunch of Whiners complaining about free stuff

    Free stuff? How is this free stuff? It’s not given to us by logging in and collecting from the calendar.
    Free in the sense that you don’t have to spend real money on them. I suppose you have to spend time. But as the saying goes if you don’t like it don’t waste your time doing it.

    Besides let’s be real no one is running these back issues for the 2015 gems. If they weren’t included people would still run them for the t5b shards 4-5 gem and 5* awakening crystal
    In the first Variant, there actually was a reason to run the quests for the 2015 gems. There are a lot of solid champs that people would like to rank but not use their resources. Luke, Hawkeye, WS, Magik, and SL are just a few examples. The precedent has already been set already too. They can’t make Back Issues 2 less lucrative than 1. That would just be illogical. And to continue to give 2015 champ rank up gems when a lot of them aren’t even available as a 5* is silly.
    Couple of things. What if you ran the first variant and still didn’t get the class rank up you needed here is another opportunity to rank up those champs. This was originally a 2015 quest why would you expect 2016 gems? Obviously the theme is to match the gems with the year the quest originated.
    The complaint was that another set of these gems, especially as a class version is awful. Maybe I missed out but oh well, that’s RNG. Why subject others with worthless items so I have another shot? The original argument was that the community wants items it can use and you made a sarcastic comment about people not whining about “free items”. The whole point is these quests are very challenging and they’re not free. Why make it a possibility that someone gets screwed with 6 mutant 2015 rank up gems when only 4 exist at all to be ranked? It’s an asinine decision.
  • Ganui01Ganui01 Posts: 3

    V1PER1987 said:


    V1PER1987 said:

    Just once I’d love to have a thread where there are not a bunch of Whiners complaining about free stuff

    Free stuff? How is this free stuff? It’s not given to us by logging in and collecting from the calendar.
    Free in the sense that you don’t have to spend real money on them. I suppose you have to spend time. But as the saying goes if you don’t like it don’t waste your time doing it.

    Besides let’s be real no one is running these back issues for the 2015 gems. If they weren’t included people would still run them for the t5b shards 4-5 gem and 5* awakening crystal
    In the first Variant, there actually was a reason to run the quests for the 2015 gems. There are a lot of solid champs that people would like to rank but not use their resources. Luke, Hawkeye, WS, Magik, and SL are just a few examples. The precedent has already been set already too. They can’t make Back Issues 2 less lucrative than 1. That would just be illogical. And to continue to give 2015 champ rank up gems when a lot of them aren’t even available as a 5* is silly.
    Couple of things. What if you ran the first variant and still didn’t get the class rank up you needed here is another opportunity to rank up those champs. This was originally a 2015 quest why would you expect 2016 gems? Obviously the theme is to match the gems with the year the quest originated.
    Well, I got three skill 3-4 rank ups. Used on Hawkeye, ws bit can’t really do anything with the third one yet. I wld absolutely hate to get one or two more. Elektra was already at r4 and bp and mn are still at r1 and not going to waste resources to take them to r3
  • Wakandas_FinestWakandas_Finest Posts: 296 ★★
    Drooped2 said:

    V1PER1987 said:


    V1PER1987 said:

    Just once I’d love to have a thread where there are not a bunch of Whiners complaining about free stuff

    Free stuff? How is this free stuff? It’s not given to us by logging in and collecting from the calendar.
    Free in the sense that you don’t have to spend real money on them. I suppose you have to spend time. But as the saying goes if you don’t like it don’t waste your time doing it.

    Besides let’s be real no one is running these back issues for the 2015 gems. If they weren’t included people would still run them for the t5b shards 4-5 gem and 5* awakening crystal
    In the first Variant, there actually was a reason to run the quests for the 2015 gems. There are a lot of solid champs that people would like to rank but not use their resources. Luke, Hawkeye, WS, Magik, and SL are just a few examples. The precedent has already been set already too. They can’t make Back Issues 2 less lucrative than 1. That would just be illogical. And to continue to give 2015 champ rank up gems when a lot of them aren’t even available as a 5* is silly.
    Couple of things. What if you ran the first variant and still didn’t get the class rank up you needed here is another opportunity to rank up those champs. This was originally a 2015 quest why would you expect 2016 gems? Obviously the theme is to match the gems with the year the quest originated.
    It still sets up the risk of someone having a gem that can never be used.

    Give me a trade in system for those situations and I'll retract the complaint but if that restriction stands it's a pretty weak deal for those players

    Make them generic now cause if they follow the order polar opposite is next also 2015 and we cant sustain random gems to that stack if they cant be used miceorealm was july 2015 which leaves 5 more for 2015
    Assuming that kabam won’t rectify a situation where a person has more rank up gems than they can use. It hasn’t happened yet so why worry over what if’s? Also assuming kabam plans to rerun every single quest ever
  • Thecrusher_9756Thecrusher_9756 Posts: 624 ★★★

    Drooped2 said:

    V1PER1987 said:


    V1PER1987 said:

    Just once I’d love to have a thread where there are not a bunch of Whiners complaining about free stuff

    Free stuff? How is this free stuff? It’s not given to us by logging in and collecting from the calendar.
    Free in the sense that you don’t have to spend real money on them. I suppose you have to spend time. But as the saying goes if you don’t like it don’t waste your time doing it.

    Besides let’s be real no one is running these back issues for the 2015 gems. If they weren’t included people would still run them for the t5b shards 4-5 gem and 5* awakening crystal
    In the first Variant, there actually was a reason to run the quests for the 2015 gems. There are a lot of solid champs that people would like to rank but not use their resources. Luke, Hawkeye, WS, Magik, and SL are just a few examples. The precedent has already been set already too. They can’t make Back Issues 2 less lucrative than 1. That would just be illogical. And to continue to give 2015 champ rank up gems when a lot of them aren’t even available as a 5* is silly.
    Couple of things. What if you ran the first variant and still didn’t get the class rank up you needed here is another opportunity to rank up those champs. This was originally a 2015 quest why would you expect 2016 gems? Obviously the theme is to match the gems with the year the quest originated.
    It still sets up the risk of someone having a gem that can never be used.

    Give me a trade in system for those situations and I'll retract the complaint but if that restriction stands it's a pretty weak deal for those players

    Make them generic now cause if they follow the order polar opposite is next also 2015 and we cant sustain random gems to that stack if they cant be used miceorealm was july 2015 which leaves 5 more for 2015
    Assuming that kabam won’t rectify a situation where a person has more rank up gems than they can use. It hasn’t happened yet so why worry over what if’s? Also assuming kabam plans to rerun every single quest ever
    Kabam... rectify... lol do we play the same game?

  • "Supernova" and "heavy machinery" nodes seem to have something wrong there.

    I've already talked about tye "heavy machinery" node and the potencial mistake you did there by using the word "buffs" instead of "effects".

    But about "Supernova" , how will that benefit Thing? The only buff he procs is his unstoppable if I'm not mistaken (maybe he triggers other by using some sinergies). What would be the benefit of having 2x unstoppable buffs going on at the same time?
  • Ace_03Ace_03 Posts: 822 ★★★★
    Drooped2 said:

    "Supernova" and "heavy machinery" nodes seem to have something wrong there.

    I've already talked about tye "heavy machinery" node and the potencial mistake you did there by using the word "buffs" instead of "effects".

    But about "Supernova" , how will that benefit Thing? The only buff he procs is his unstoppable if I'm not mistaken (maybe he triggers other by using some sinergies). What would be the benefit of having 2x unstoppable buffs going on at the same time?

    Doesnt thing get fury's? I may be way off my knowledge of him isnt that strong
    He does
  • Ace_03Ace_03 Posts: 822 ★★★★
    MCOC Team said:

    Once upon a time, an intrepid thief followed the trail of mysterious happenings in The Battlerealm. Little did he know this tiny curiosity would lead to some of the biggest changes in all of The Contest!

    Introducing, Back Issues #2: Mystery in the Micro-Realms!

    As the Contest has grown and evolved we’ve introduced many Event Quests, each with their own unique stories, and many that have expanded on the mythos of The Battlerealm and The Contest of Champions. We want to give Veteran Summoners a way to relive those moments, and newer ones that weren’t with us at the time a chance to experience the stories of the Contest that they had missed out on!

    This Event Quest is available in TWO difficulties:

    CLASSIC difficulty is a recreation of the original quest. While not completely 1:1, the layouts, difficulty, and dialogue are all the same as you remember. Take a stroll down memory lane and see how far you've come, or experience a quest you never got the chance to play!

    VARIANT difficulty is a new spin on the quest, available for Summoners level 40 and up. This version features extreme challenge, new opponents, updated map layouts, and new combat effects for the boss fights. This quest will test even the mightiest of Summoners, so be prepared! You can find out more about the challenges you will face in Variant Difficulty in our latest Dev Diary post here: https://playcontestofchampions.com/dev-diary-added-difficulty/

    The Variant Challenges!

    Variant Difficulty will test not only your skills, but your knowledge of Champion abilities, immunities, resistances, and counters! Those who rely on only a few Champions will find the need to diversify.

    Unlike Back Issues #1, there will not be explicit gates (like Class or Rarity), but instead we’ll be applying Global Buffs that strongly encourage the use of certain Champions. In this case, it’s XL Champions. All quests will make use of Micro-Reflect, Size Matters, and Particle Protector; effects you might remember from Evangeline Lily’s Champion Challenge last year. (But appropriately souped up.) On top of this, the new Runaway Express and Cultivating Mass Buffs will give XL Champions further advantages beyond their ability to ignore Particle Protector. Finally, Quests 1-3 through 3-3 will also feature Buffs that will benefit bringing in certain XL Champions!

    Take a look at the new Buffs you’ll be combating or benefiting from:



    Remember Summoners, Variant Difficulty is going to be HARD! The good news is that Back Issues are permanent content, so if you’re not able to take Variant Difficulty on right now, take all the time you need and come back to it when you feel you are better equipped!

    Rewards:

    For completing and mastering all of the Classic quests, you earn:

    Tier 2 Basic ISO x4
    Tier 3 Basic ISO x22
    Tier 4 Basic ISO x6
    Gold x12250
    Units x225
    Tier 1 Alpha Catalyst x1
    Premium Hero Crystal x3
    3-Star Hero Crystal x1

    For completing and mastering all of the Variant quests, you earn:

    5-Star Rank 2 → 3 Gem Crystal x3
    5-Star Rank 3 → 4 Gem Crystal (2015 Champs Only) x3
    5-Star Rank 3 → 4 Gem Crystal x1
    5-Star Rank 4 → 5 Gem Crystal x1
    5-Star Awakening Gem Crystal x1
    5-Star Crystal x1
    Tier 5 Basic Catalyst Fragments x27000
    6-Star Crystal Shards x2250
    5-Star Signature Stone Crystal x48
    Gold x2,100,000
    Units x360

    This Quest will be available starting Wednesday, April 10th at 10 am PST! Remember, this is permanent content, so you can take your time completing this throwback!

    In the original variant we got 2 5 star crystals, could this be a typo in this iteration or is it only just the one crystal now?
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    Drooped2 said:

    "Supernova" and "heavy machinery" nodes seem to have something wrong there.

    I've already talked about tye "heavy machinery" node and the potencial mistake you did there by using the word "buffs" instead of "effects".

    But about "Supernova" , how will that benefit Thing? The only buff he procs is his unstoppable if I'm not mistaken (maybe he triggers other by using some sinergies). What would be the benefit of having 2x unstoppable buffs going on at the same time?

    Doesnt thing get fury's? I may be way off my knowledge of him isnt that strong
    He gets passive furies, not the same thing as buffs. It wouldn’t be counted in the Supernova buff giving him two for one.
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,774 ★★★★★
    Will we be allowed to do this variant without completing the ultron one first? I want to try out some of those nodes
  • Marzipan87Marzipan87 Posts: 44

    RogerRabs said:

    Was there only one difficulty when this quest originally came out? Just curious...

    There's two difficulties same as the last one. Classic and Variant
    Oh, no, I meant when this originally came out back in 2015.
    yes originally there was only one difficult in 2015 (thats the reason why it is a 2015 rank up gem)
  • Frivolousz21Frivolousz21 Posts: 306 ★★
    Rap said:

    Once again kabam dangles carrots in the form of awakening gems and ranking tokens but we gotta strain ourselves to get them, rank who they intend for us to rank, use up supplies and goods at their whim in advance of having the things we need to raise truly playable champs? (i.e. dupes) It is becoming more and more obvious they want us ranking locked champs and not duped ones so we start running through more supplies that many of us have probably been sitting on and therefore not buying! And getting too deep in the endgame with our 4s...

    What is your roster like?
  • Greifmaster911Greifmaster911 Posts: 315 ★★
    That dimensional dominion node thing makes me slightly hopeful for a thanos endgame that anyone can own, even though it most likely means only the very rare thanos that almost no one has.
  • IKONIKON Posts: 356 ★★★
    edited April 6
    The community sucks the joy out of every announcement
  • Stees82Stees82 Posts: 13
    Total **** kabam!! Im absolutely disgusted in your last few events!!! This game is going down fast and hard!!! Get it together kabam or your gonna lose most of your supporters which means no more precious dollars!! Does marvel know how bad you keep dragging their name through the mud?
  • MattManMattMan Posts: 280 ★★★
    edited April 6
    Why keep the terrible 2015 gems? Gross
  • Duke_SilverDuke_Silver Posts: 1,716 ★★★
    “That’s how black ISO mafia works” is probably the most hilarious thing I’ve seen in a while 😂😂😂 Props to Kabam on that one!
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Posts: 945 ★★★
    MattMan said:

    Why keep the terrible 2015 gems? Gross

    Because the quest was in 2015. What's so hard to understand about that?
  • DaphboyDaphboy Posts: 174
    Will the double buffs on venom count towards 1 or 2 on his max buffs? Will he be able to proc 7 or 14 furies on special 2???
  • Vale84Vale84 Posts: 308 ★★★
    V1PER1987 said:

    Buttehrs said:

    MattMan said:

    Why keep the terrible 2015 gems? Gross

    Because the quest was in 2015. What's so hard to understand about that?
    So why do they use champs that were made after 2015 as defenders?
    Ouuff. He won't come back from this.
  • zeezee57zeezee57 Posts: 1,842 ★★★★
    The 2015 gems coming back is a huge turnoff. There are so few 2015 champs that players able to do Variant will use, even at R4, and most will already be there for those that can get these gems. For me the few champs i would actually rank from 2015, namely Magik, will now sit at R3 until I get all the 2015 gems because if I R4 her with resources and pull mystic I have nobody worthy to use it on.

    Like literally everyone else I really wish you guys would reconsider. It's amazing you take something that 99% of the active community here hates and bring it back again. I see mods comment that you guys and the devs take community feedback seriously but actions speak far louder than words and that couldn't be more clearly false.
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