Fight Randomized Opponents and Buffs in Sinister Labs!

Summoners!

Mister Sinister is continuing his work with genetic modification, and has begun performing experiments on the Champions of the Contest in an attempt to enhance their abilities and further his research!

Log in daily to take on the Sinister Labs Event Quest, and receive items from the Sinister Labs Event Login Calendar including Randomizers and brand new “Sense Boosts” to enhance your own Champions' Abilities (only usable in the Sinister Labs),

Special Solo Objectives are also available this month, and will target the use of Mutant Champions in unique and challenging ways to earn additional Sense Boosts, Randomizers and Gold!

What are Sinister Labs?

Sinister Labs are short quests that consist of 2 paths, each with 6 fights on them. Sounds straightforward? Not exactly… Mr Sinister’s Experimentation has left these encounters unpredictable!

All Fights in these quests will feature a number of Randomized Buffs! Some of these Buffs are more potent on certain Champions, and some may even benefit the Summoner, but don’t be fooled into thinking you can start the fight without reading what you’ll be up against!

Really don’t like the Buffs you’re encountering? You can use a Randomizer to reset them, but that doesn’t guarantee that all of them will be different, or any easier!

This quest uses Entry Limits, meaning Summoners can only enter a 10 times each day across all Difficulties. There are 4 difficulties that can be done daily, each with 2 paths. There is no point in doing any difficulty of the Quest more than twice. You will only receive Completion and Exploration rewards once.

Heighten your Senses!

For the first time ever, we’re adding a new dimension to Lab quests, Senses! Senses are mode specific Boosts that can only be used in Sinister Labs. You can only activate these Boosts from the Quest Map Screen. There are 6 Boosts that Summoners may activate:

Sense: Tactile - When inflicted with any Shock, Coldsnap, Poison or Bleed effect, your Champion builds immunity to the effect over 9 seconds. This time is reduced to 3 seconds while playing as a Mutant.

Sense: Auditory - Incoming Special Attacks have a 20% chance to trigger an Evasion Passive, granting a 100% chance to Evade all incoming attacks for the duration of the Special Attack. The chance to trigger this Passive is increased to 50% while playing as a Mutant.

Sense: Olfactory - All attacks have a 20% chance to deal True Damage, ignoring all of the Opponent's Armor. This chance increases to 50% while playing as a Mutant.

Sense: Visual - While playing as a Mutant, attacks cannot Miss.

Sense: Gustatory - When the Opponent is inflicted with a damaging Debuff, your Champion gains a Regeneration Buff, granting 5% of their missing health over 4 seconds.

Sense: Rage - When playing as a Mutant, while at or below 20% max health, gain a Fury Passive granting 300% increased Base Attack.

Rewards:

Starting Soon!

Sinister Labs will be available on August 7th at 10am PDT, and runs until September 4th! You must update to the newest version of the game before being able to participate.

All information subject to change prior to release.

Comments

Rougeknight87

Forgot this was even on over the weekend because of the new event dropdown setups, thank god! What a boring slog of an event! Might take the hit for T5B and 6* shards, honestly don’t think the reward is worth the effort

Jwne

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DNA3000

I get the RNG, which u can ask any mathematician out there, there's no such thing as random number generator, there's always a pattern

An actual mathematician knowledgeable would ask you to define what you mean by "random number" because this is not a trivial thing to define in mathematics. The notion that there's "real randomness" and "fake randomness" is extremely slippery. Even the go-to answer of quantum mechanics being random is an unsettled question.

The term of art here is sufficiently random. In any practical application, no one knows what "real randomness" is, so they define a set of tests that the application demands of the random generator; any generator that passes these randomness tests is considered "sufficiently random." And sufficiently random generators exist. For something like a video game, they aren't very difficult to make. I'm pretty sure even Mersenne Twister generates random sequences that no human being could ever predict or detect an imbalance within in the context of a video game's random rewards.

Now, is Particle Protector "random?" Maybe not. I've been watching PP as it comes up in the buff list and I've seen some interesting things. For example I've heard a theory that Particle Protector and Micro Reflect are tied together: you always get one with the other. But that's not the case:

But it might be true in one direction: if Micro Reflect is drawn then Particle Protector gets automatically pulled as well. But that suggests that Particle Protector isn't just pulled randomly: there's logic that says IF X THEN PARTICLE PROTECTOR. And if that's the case, then it is possible that logic is somehow bugged, and PP comes up more often than it ought to. And I have seen instances where PP comes up several times in a row on rerolls. I've never seen eight, but I've seen four. That's possible through random chance, but I'm mildly suspicious, particularly since its likely there's extra logic that could be broken.

Werewrym

The concept of "randomness" is actually quite interesting. As a semi-experienced programmer I have used many different types of built in random number generator functions in many different programming languages. In my experience, people tend to apply human logic to a problem such as generating a random number and sometimes that comes through.

When I took programming classes there is one key point that I took away. That when you are programming you have to think like the computer. A computer cannot apply logic the same way a human can and despite our best efforts you can never fully impart the logic of people into a computer program. Something as simple as overlooking the fact that certain numbers can't be stored precisely in binary can lead to huge problems in a program.

Back to the topic of randomness, I have noticed that on occasion a sort of pattern can be seen in some of the built in RNG functions I have used. Now I'm not saying that they aren't "sufficiently random," but what I am saying is behind every random program is a human mind and human minds apply logic which can sometimes be seen in the "randomness."

Of course none of this is to say that the code being used for labs is not "sufficiently random" it is just a topic that I find interesting and when we see a buff come up many times in a row it does seem to suggest the presence of some form of "logic" behind the program.

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phillgreen

I just rolled particle protector 6 times in a row in master.

RNG y'all

Archit_Tandon498

I get the RNG, which u can ask any mathematician out there, there's no such thing as random number generator, there's always a pattern
An actual mathematician knowledgeable would ask you to define what you mean by "random number" because this is not a trivial thing to define in mathematics. The notion that there's "real randomness" and "fake randomness" is extremely slippery. Even the go-to answer of quantum mechanics being random is an unsettled question.

The term of art here is sufficiently random. In any practical application, no one knows what "real randomness" is, so they define a set of tests that the application demands of the random generator; any generator that passes these randomness tests is considered "sufficiently random." And sufficiently random generators exist. For something like a video game, they aren't very difficult to make. I'm pretty sure even Mersenne Twister generates random sequences that no human being could ever predict or detect an imbalance within in the context of a video game's random rewards.

Now, is Particle Protector "random?" Maybe not. I've been watching PP as it comes up in the buff list and I've seen some interesting things. For example I've heard a theory that Particle Protector and Micro Reflect are tied together: you always get one with the other. But that's not the case:

But it might be true in one direction: if Micro Reflect is drawn then Particle Protector gets automatically pulled as well. But that suggests that Particle Protector isn't just pulled randomly: there's logic that says IF X THEN PARTICLE PROTECTOR. And if that's the case, then it is possible that logic is somehow bugged, and PP comes up more often than it ought to. And I have seen instances where PP comes up several times in a row on rerolls. I've never seen eight, but I've seen four. That's possible through random chance, but I'm mildly suspicious, particularly since its likely there's extra logic that could be broken.

Lol that's a bug once again, if press X and reclick on the nodes then the particle protector will disappear, this happens with the bottom most node in the nodes section. Decided not report this since there are much more harmful bugs in this game rather than the harmless ones.

DNA3000

@DNA3000 I don't even remember my post that you just quoted. Was it from this thread? I seriously can't remember the context.

Now that's weird. I clearly remember you posting about rerolling particle protector several times in a row and wondering if that suggested a problem with that buff coming up randomly. But I can't see the post anymore.

DNA3000

I get the RNG, which u can ask any mathematician out there, there's no such thing as random number generator, there's always a pattern
An actual mathematician knowledgeable would ask you to define what you mean by "random number" because this is not a trivial thing to define in mathematics. The notion that there's "real randomness" and "fake randomness" is extremely slippery. Even the go-to answer of quantum mechanics being random is an unsettled question.

The term of art here is sufficiently random. In any practical application, no one knows what "real randomness" is, so they define a set of tests that the application demands of the random generator; any generator that passes these randomness tests is considered "sufficiently random." And sufficiently random generators exist. For something like a video game, they aren't very difficult to make. I'm pretty sure even Mersenne Twister generates random sequences that no human being could ever predict or detect an imbalance within in the context of a video game's random rewards.

Now, is Particle Protector "random?" Maybe not. I've been watching PP as it comes up in the buff list and I've seen some interesting things. For example I've heard a theory that Particle Protector and Micro Reflect are tied together: you always get one with the other. But that's not the case:

But it might be true in one direction: if Micro Reflect is drawn then Particle Protector gets automatically pulled as well. But that suggests that Particle Protector isn't just pulled randomly: there's logic that says IF X THEN PARTICLE PROTECTOR. And if that's the case, then it is possible that logic is somehow bugged, and PP comes up more often than it ought to. And I have seen instances where PP comes up several times in a row on rerolls. I've never seen eight, but I've seen four. That's possible through random chance, but I'm mildly suspicious, particularly since its likely there's extra logic that could be broken.
Lol that's a bug once again, if press X and reclick on the nodes then the particle protector will disappear, this happens with the bottom most node in the nodes section. Decided not report this since there are much more harmful bugs in this game rather than the harmless ones.

I've heard of that bug. But I've seen this happen when Particle Protector and Micro Reflect are the first two buffs in the set, which I thought was not characteristic of that bug.

winterthur

Any tips to fight awakened IMIW with Slashed Tires?

Buttehrs

Any tips to fight awakened IMIW with Slashed Tires?

Any bleed immune will work

arsjum

Any tips to fight awakened IMIW with Slashed Tires?
Any bleed immune will work

Nope. The only way to avoid damage from slashed tires is to not dash back. You must be thinking caltrops.

Ultimatheory

Any tips to fight awakened IMIW with Slashed Tires?

I use CMM to get through most of the BS damage nodes. Those 12 seconds are clutch.

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Parodical_Sun1

I played the Sinister Lab on Master mode and had a roaster that was above the requirement psi, long story short,I end up going through so many randomizers to get a decent “evenly match fight” and at least 200 units 200 complete it as well as a stash of health potions and revives. The rewards payout was not even worth it IMHO. I consider myself an above average player.
So you brought a team with a 9,999,999 for RoL right?

That recommended team rating has never really meant much of anything

The requirement team rating based on Kabam’s mastery level to engage effectively the difficulty mode level, for master it is roughly 25k, whereas I had a team rating of 32k and got slaughtered even using randomizes dice rolls.

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TECHN0ST0RM

Kabam, you guys are pathetic with Sinister Lab. The rewards sucks and the buff nodes on Epic is ridiculous! you guys are loosing customers left and right and loosing revenues with such pathetic and frustrating nodes.. Why not just have everything regen, unblockable and unstoppable at all time? ridiculous man! you keep making players hate your company more and more each day! Oh and the health pool is far from being reasonable! time for everyone to stop spending and playing this game altogether!

LeNoirFaineant

Kabam, you guys are pathetic with Sinister Lab. The rewards sucks and the buff nodes on Epic is ridiculous! you guys are loosing customers left and right and loosing revenues with such pathetic and frustrating nodes.. Why not just have everything regen, unblockable and unstoppable at all time? ridiculous man! you keep making players hate your company more and more each day! Oh and the health pool is far from being reasonable! time for everyone to stop spending and playing this game altogether!

Yeah, don't think people are quitting over the side quest. Sounds like you aren't ready for Epic. Personally I quit running it because the rewards aren't worth the time, but I don't have any issues with the nodes or the health pool.

phillgreen

Fun node of the day:

Aspect of Nightmares 50%.
Heal Reversal.

No randomiser

:'(

Yep, fun times ensue.

TECHN0ST0RM

Kabam, you guys are pathetic with Sinister Lab. The rewards sucks and the buff nodes on Epic is ridiculous! you guys are loosing customers left and right and loosing revenues with such pathetic and frustrating nodes.. Why not just have everything regen, unblockable and unstoppable at all time? ridiculous man! you keep making players hate your company more and more each day! Oh and the health pool is far from being reasonable! time for everyone to stop spending and playing this game altogether!
Yeah, don't think people are quitting over the side quest. Sounds like you aren't ready for Epic. Personally I quit running it because the rewards aren't worth the time, but I don't have any issues with the nodes or the health pool.

yeah there are always people like you who thinks you are better than others. I never said I couldn't complete it. It just takes too much effort for the measly rewards and totally boring. This game is getting old and people are quitting. Like it or not I don't know you nor do I want to. But there are very skilled players and Legends who agreed that the nodes are ridiculous for the amount of effort and time spent. Don't like my opinion? ignore me instead of telling me I don't have the skills for Epic.

Deacon

i do Master and call it a day lol ... the randomizers are a pain on Epic

DNA3000

Don't like my opinion? ignore me instead of telling me I don't have the skills for Epic.

I don't think you understand the concept of a discussion forum.

Mattstafari

If the buffs are random, why do micro reflect and particle protector always come together?

LeNoirFaineant

Kabam, you guys are pathetic with Sinister Lab. The rewards sucks and the buff nodes on Epic is ridiculous! you guys are loosing customers left and right and loosing revenues with such pathetic and frustrating nodes.. Why not just have everything regen, unblockable and unstoppable at all time? ridiculous man! you keep making players hate your company more and more each day! Oh and the health pool is far from being reasonable! time for everyone to stop spending and playing this game altogether!
Yeah, don't think people are quitting over the side quest. Sounds like you aren't ready for Epic. Personally I quit running it because the rewards aren't worth the time, but I don't have any issues with the nodes or the health pool.
yeah there are always people like you who thinks you are better than others. I never said I couldn't complete it. It just takes too much effort for the measly rewards and totally boring. This game is getting old and people are quitting. Like it or not I don't know you nor do I want to. But there are very skilled players and Legends who agreed that the nodes are ridiculous for the amount of effort and time spent. Don't like my opinion? ignore me instead of telling me I don't have the skills for Epic.

Never implied I was better then others but whatever. You made a rant in which you called for people to stop playing the game and declared that people were quitting left and right due to the frustrating nodes. You complained about the health pool. I don't think assuming you couldn't do it was much of a leap. Don't really care if you can do it or not, people aren't "quitting left and right" over a side quest. I don't know anyone who thinks the nodes are ridiculous for the time and effort... that doesn't make sense. I know lots of people who think the rewards aren't worth the time, which is why I quit running them lol.

1DocSavage

We've had several members of our Alliance quit the game entirely because of the difficulty of the labs , same thing happened last time in my old Alliance, the randomizer just progressively worst options. The remaining members just refuse to play this event do to the aggravation.

Parodical_Sun1

I had went through 8 randomizers on only 3 Sinister Lab defenders on Master mode, but again it’s all in progress of the game where 5* and 6* champs are the future of advancing, whereas 4* older champs are becoming more and obsolete even maxed out with signatures to compete on a Master mode level with one sided buffers up against awaken 5* champs.

Ufuomah

I have to say, I barely noticed this event was even active. Ran it for the first day, rerolled a good ten times to randomize a Buff but got the same node every single time
That was the last time I played the event. It is one of the worse kabam have ever come up with.

Lvernon15

I played the Sinister Lab on Master mode and had a roaster that was above the requirement psi, long story short,I end up going through so many randomizers to get a decent “evenly match fight” and at least 200 units 200 complete it as well as a stash of health potions and revives. The rewards payout was not even worth it IMHO. I consider myself an above average player.

If you’re spending that many units to clear it you aren’t ready, recommended rating means very little

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