ÆGON: Fixed Combo Shield to be a true Buff ?

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  • iRetr0iRetr0 Member Posts: 1,252 ★★★★
    edited November 2019
    Ægon's combo abilities (True Accuracy, Unstoppable, Combo Shield, Fury) have always had a timer and icon similar to Buffs, not Passive Effects, I get this "fix" is long overdue but Kabam really needs to test champs more properly before throwing them out to the community then changing them in any way whatsoever.
  • Pony_boyPony_boy Member Posts: 50

    Pony_boy said:

    I take it none of you guys get what they are doing or see a pattern here?

    1 - Create a champ that counters a problem in game and make lots of hype
    2 - Sell the champ to players and make bank
    3 - Sell resources to players for ranking up and make more bank
    4 - Wait until most have done this and it has reached saturation point
    5 - Slowly tinker, bug and lower the effectiveness of the champion to make it less useful.
    6 - Rinse, repeat

    And with the greatest of respect to everyone here, they could care less about what we say since we will still buy Doom, Surfer and beyond.

    Yep par for the course with Kabam. Anyone remember Doc Strange pre 12.0?

    Pepperidge Farms remembers spending a $100 on him only to have him nerfed 3 months later.
    How is that connected to aegons combo shield, though? We literally just got official word about what's behind this and it's nothing but a minor fix that won't change him in any way, unless you already loved trying to heavy-combo-shield your way through buff stealing specials, which isn't a wise thing to do either way
    My response is not connected the Combo Shield, but in response to the post I quoted if you read that. The gist is Kabam releases a Champ, hypes them up, Players drop cash, then they nerf the Champ and repeat the cycle. Now this is not 100% true all of the time of course, but it happens often. Case in point, Kabam selling DS crystals and rank up mats 3-4 months before they nerf him.
    Now Kabam is fundamentally changing a champion after months of play and resources spent.
  • asdffasdff Member Posts: 10
    So sorry of this upsets someone if I didn't read every comment but did any of this affect his synergy with starlord and proxima that is still broken? If not why?
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,427 Guardian

    So a “buff” can now be activated passively? My head hurts. Making stuff up on the run again

    This has always been true. The first time this specific discussion appeared on the forums was all the way back in the Triassic when the discussion revolved around Medusa. Medusa has a passive ability that generates fury buffs. The notion that the ability was a passive but the furies were not passive was something that confused some players at the time, because the whole idea of what "passives" were was poorly understood back then.

    Today, this is about as common knowledge as anything game mechanical is common knowledge. Abilities can be activated by some trigger or just always be on. The always on ones are described as "passive." The effects that abilities generate are themselves either buffs, debuffs, or passives, and that has nothing to do with whether the ability that generated them was always on (passive) or triggered by some event (not-passive).
  • asdffasdff Member Posts: 10

    asdff said:

    So sorry of this upsets someone if I didn't read every comment but did any of this affect his synergy with starlord and proxima that is still broken? If not why?

    It didn't affect his still broken synergy. This is only about the combo-shield-buff aegon can get through his heavy attack.

    Said buff seemingly didn't interact like it should have, for example it couldn't be stolen by loki's sp1.

    There won't be any fundamental changes about aegon as far as factual information goes. Just a minor fix.
    That's lame. Why fix something most care nothing about. How many times have I fought Loki with Ægon. This is affecting people wanting to make LOL runs. I also use him a lot in AQ as I can get to his tenacity by first mini and by the time I reach Thanos I shred him but if I get nipped in a long fight is screws my combo.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,427 Guardian
    asdff said:

    asdff said:

    So sorry of this upsets someone if I didn't read every comment but did any of this affect his synergy with starlord and proxima that is still broken? If not why?

    It didn't affect his still broken synergy. This is only about the combo-shield-buff aegon can get through his heavy attack.

    Said buff seemingly didn't interact like it should have, for example it couldn't be stolen by loki's sp1.

    There won't be any fundamental changes about aegon as far as factual information goes. Just a minor fix.
    That's lame. Why fix something most care nothing about. How many times have I fought Loki with Ægon. This is affecting people wanting to make LOL runs.
    If that's the way you feel about it, most players don't care about LoL runs.
  • asdffasdff Member Posts: 10
    DNA3000 said:

    asdff said:

    asdff said:

    So sorry of this upsets someone if I didn't read every comment but did any of this affect his synergy with starlord and proxima that is still broken? If not why?

    It didn't affect his still broken synergy. This is only about the combo-shield-buff aegon can get through his heavy attack.

    Said buff seemingly didn't interact like it should have, for example it couldn't be stolen by loki's sp1.

    There won't be any fundamental changes about aegon as far as factual information goes. Just a minor fix.
    That's lame. Why fix something most care nothing about. How many times have I fought Loki with Ægon. This is affecting people wanting to make LOL runs.
    If that's the way you feel about it, most players don't care about LoL runs.
    I also mentioned AQ which is where I use him 90% of the time. I would have also like to use him once a month for an LOL run. Did 1 path with ease. Now not going to waste my time or resources.
  • MidnightfoxMidnightfox Member Posts: 1,240 ★★★
    If u guys are merging another champ where are our rdt?
  • J0eySn0wJ0eySn0w Member Posts: 960 ★★★★

    Pony_boy said:

    Pony_boy said:

    I take it none of you guys get what they are doing or see a pattern here?

    1 - Create a champ that counters a problem in game and make lots of hype
    2 - Sell the champ to players and make bank
    3 - Sell resources to players for ranking up and make more bank
    4 - Wait until most have done this and it has reached saturation point
    5 - Slowly tinker, bug and lower the effectiveness of the champion to make it less useful.
    6 - Rinse, repeat

    And with the greatest of respect to everyone here, they could care less about what we say since we will still buy Doom, Surfer and beyond.

    Yep par for the course with Kabam. Anyone remember Doc Strange pre 12.0?

    Pepperidge Farms remembers spending a $100 on him only to have him nerfed 3 months later.
    How is that connected to aegons combo shield, though? We literally just got official word about what's behind this and it's nothing but a minor fix that won't change him in any way, unless you already loved trying to heavy-combo-shield your way through buff stealing specials, which isn't a wise thing to do either way
    My response is not connected the Combo Shield, but in response to the post I quoted if you read that. The gist is Kabam releases a Champ, hypes them up, Players drop cash, then they nerf the Champ and repeat the cycle. Now this is not 100% true all of the time of course, but it happens often. Case in point, Kabam selling DS crystals and rank up mats 3-4 months before they nerf him.
    Now Kabam is fundamentally changing a champion after months of play and resources spent.
    Who are you talking about, though? Aegon? Minor fix. Wasp? Major fix of an exploit.

    There hasn't been an actual nerf in ages.
    Depends on your definition of "ages". Everyone is affected differently when Kabam make these changes. Some spend more cash than others, others grind their lives off and put other important stuffs on hold to acquire a specific champs. So these changes may still be fresh in their minds. If you need an example: Shehulk!!!
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,427 Guardian
    asdff said:

    DNA3000 said:

    asdff said:

    asdff said:

    So sorry of this upsets someone if I didn't read every comment but did any of this affect his synergy with starlord and proxima that is still broken? If not why?

    It didn't affect his still broken synergy. This is only about the combo-shield-buff aegon can get through his heavy attack.

    Said buff seemingly didn't interact like it should have, for example it couldn't be stolen by loki's sp1.

    There won't be any fundamental changes about aegon as far as factual information goes. Just a minor fix.
    That's lame. Why fix something most care nothing about. How many times have I fought Loki with Ægon. This is affecting people wanting to make LOL runs.
    If that's the way you feel about it, most players don't care about LoL runs.
    I also mentioned AQ which is where I use him 90% of the time. I would have also like to use him once a month for an LOL run. Did 1 path with ease. Now not going to waste my time or resources.
    Pretty sure most players don't use Aegon in AQ either. Are you going to stick with your story that Kabam shouldn't fix something most care nothing about?
  • Tiger360Tiger360 Member Posts: 1,696 ★★★★
    Was just reading through this and was a bit worried but turns out its a old post
  • Darksun987Darksun987 Member Posts: 83
    edited January 2020
    CRE4TOR said:

    It also bothers me that people think he’s OP. While he may be a good champ... you’re not able to use 90% of his abilities in the game. LOL is the only content I’ve been in where I can get his combo up to his top abilities that he was built with.

    He carried me through act 4 and act 5 as a 4 star 4/40 with NF/AM and Starlord synergy. He doesn't need 999 hits to be a complete truck. I was able to get him up to 300 hits in Maestro chapter for instance and truth be told he starts owning hard around 100 hits. After that he takes down a 2x PI champ who isn't bleed immune in like 30 hits.

    Not sure why I'm even saying this because I don't want him nerfed but I love me some Aegon.
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