He actually does have a point You said many of these champs were not mentioned But they didn't need to be mentioned. Most marvel fans know about them, their backstories, skills and abilities etc which is why kabam doesn't have to do an origin story for them. For aegon, kabam did a motion comic explaining his background and giving us an idea of what motivates and we also had the event quest featuring him. For these new champs we haven't got anything other than it's a tie in with mroc. What felganos means is that if mroc came first before this tie in, we would know more about them, backgrounds, personalities etc (which actually makes things smoother) otherwise it's just storm with the same weather abilities and another sorcerer other than strange or his symbiotized self with a different kit hence OP not being a fan of the design.
They probably will release a motion comic with the next update since they did so for aegon, Ms and guilly and guilly 2099 (the best eq ever)
How do you know they won't introduce sorcer supreme and storm similarly? Everything said about them could have been said about aegon before the update dropped and his eq got released.
And as to og marvel characters, those also aren't part of the mcoc-verse or it's lore until they get officially introduced. They need to be tied in the same way as kabam original characters, since them just immediately being there wouldn't make any sense either.
Claire and aarkus are possibly the least known additions to the contest so far. I'd assume for most players they could have very well been kabam originals.
Even a well known character like apocalypse would need to be introduced to the story and lore of mcoc. Him being well known doesn't innately make him part of this exact verse.
Read the last part. I said they probably will
All og characters are technically in the game already. The collector collects heroes. They could be in those crystals waiting for the collector to release them and get used for a mission. The battle realm is wide and parts of it are unknown. Some champs might have been already released (can't speak for timelines) and are just in hiding, planning and what not. But mroc is a different realm entirely from the looks of it. It's tied with the battle realm but not of the battle realm Which brings me back to felganos point. If mroc was released first we would know better.
He actually does have a point You said many of these champs were not mentioned But they didn't need to be mentioned. Most marvel fans know about them, their backstories, skills and abilities etc which is why kabam doesn't have to do an origin story for them. For aegon, kabam did a motion comic explaining his background and giving us an idea of what motivates and we also had the event quest featuring him. For these new champs we haven't got anything other than it's a tie in with mroc. What felganos means is that if mroc came first before this tie in, we would know more about them, backgrounds, personalities etc (which actually makes things smoother) otherwise it's just storm with the same weather abilities and another sorcerer other than strange or his symbiotized self with a different kit hence OP not being a fan of the design.
They probably will release a motion comic with the next update since they did so for aegon, Ms and guilly and guilly 2099 (the best eq ever)
How do you know they won't introduce sorcer supreme and storm similarly? Everything said about them could have been said about aegon before the update dropped and his eq got released.
And as to og marvel characters, those also aren't part of the mcoc-verse or it's lore until they get officially introduced. They need to be tied in the same way as kabam original characters, since them just immediately being there wouldn't make any sense either.
Claire and aarkus are possibly the least known additions to the contest so far. I'd assume for most players they could have very well been kabam originals.
Even a well known character like apocalypse would need to be introduced to the story and lore of mcoc. Him being well known doesn't innately make him part of this exact verse.
Read the last part. I said they probably will
All og characters are technically in the game already. The collector collects heroes. They could be in those crystals waiting for the collector to release them and get used for a mission. The battle realm is wide and parts of it are unknown. Some champs might have been already released (can't speak for timelines) and are just in hiding, planning and what not. But mroc is a different realm entirely from the looks of it. It's tied with the battle realm but not of the battle realm Which brings me back to felganos point. If mroc was released first we would know better.
The realm of mroc is officially a part of the overarching realm in which the contest of mcoc is taking place.
So according to your very own points, sorcerer supreme and the new storm are already part of the mcoc lore and only need to be officially introduced.
They aren't marvel og characters tho Storm might be an exception here And overarching realm?
@zZayTtay you have to remember that Kabam won’t profit off of revamping the old storm or doctor strange. Kabam is only there to make money (as most companies are) so they will put out new characters so that people spends on their cav crystals. Buffs for characters do happen, but Kabam usually chooses to release a new version of an already existing character instead of revamping an old one
This is such a false narrative. The game itself is 100% Free to Play. If they were here only to make money, it wouldn't be free at all.
Do you think programmers and designers work for free? They'll just redesign older champs just because? The game has to move forward and that means releasing new content and champs and keeps revenue coming. Buffing older champs that most of us probably already have, won't make them money since we have them already.
He actually does have a point You said many of these champs were not mentioned But they didn't need to be mentioned. Most marvel fans know about them, their backstories, skills and abilities etc which is why kabam doesn't have to do an origin story for them. For aegon, kabam did a motion comic explaining his background and giving us an idea of what motivates and we also had the event quest featuring him. For these new champs we haven't got anything other than it's a tie in with mroc. What felganos means is that if mroc came first before this tie in, we would know more about them, backgrounds, personalities etc (which actually makes things smoother) otherwise it's just storm with the same weather abilities and another sorcerer other than strange or his symbiotized self with a different kit hence OP not being a fan of the design.
They probably will release a motion comic with the next update since they did so for aegon, Ms and guilly and guilly 2099 (the best eq ever)
How do you know they won't introduce sorcer supreme and storm similarly? Everything said about them could have been said about aegon before the update dropped and his eq got released.
And as to og marvel characters, those also aren't part of the mcoc-verse or it's lore until they get officially introduced. They need to be tied in the same way as kabam original characters, since them just immediately being there wouldn't make any sense either.
Claire and aarkus are possibly the least known additions to the contest so far. I'd assume for most players they could have very well been kabam originals.
Even a well known character like apocalypse would need to be introduced to the story and lore of mcoc. Him being well known doesn't innately make him part of this exact verse.
Read the last part. I said they probably will
All og characters are technically in the game already. The collector collects heroes. They could be in those crystals waiting for the collector to release them and get used for a mission. The battle realm is wide and parts of it are unknown. Some champs might have been already released (can't speak for timelines) and are just in hiding, planning and what not. But mroc is a different realm entirely from the looks of it. It's tied with the battle realm but not of the battle realm Which brings me back to felganos point. If mroc was released first we would know better.
The realm of mroc is officially a part of the overarching realm in which the contest of mcoc is taking place.
So according to your very own points, sorcerer supreme and the new storm are already part of the mcoc lore and only need to be officially introduced.
They aren't marvel og characters tho Storm might be an exception here And overarching realm?
MROC and MCOC are connected. MROCs characters are based off of Marvel Characters but from possible different universes where they are different than what we know them as. Hence storm.
@Demonzfyre companies are usually there to make money as their primary purpose...the game is completely f2p and I’m not arguing that. While it is f2p, many whales spend thousands on newer champs. You basically proved my point when you said ”Buffing older champs that most of us probably already have, won't make them money since we have them already.” That was exactly my point. They won’t buff older champs that we already have since the new versions will make them more money
@Demonzfyre companies are usually there to make money as their primary purpose...the game is completely f2p and I’m not arguing that. While it is f2p, many whales spend thousands on newer champs. You basically proved my point when you said ”Buffing older champs that most of us probably already have, won't make them money since we have them already.” That was exactly my point. They won’t buff older champs that we already have since the new versions will make them more money
But they are buffing older champs. Hulkbuster is about there now, plus all the others they've done. They can't ONLY buff older champs. They still have to make new content. The investment is in New content. It's not an easy task to buff and redesign older champs. It takes time and money. If they aren't doing things to draw that money, there's no budget for it.
Buffing older champs may not make kabam the same profits as releasing new champs, but I would argue buffing older champs keeps players around that may otherwise quit or leave the game. If I knew there would finally be a version of Wolverine as a 5* or 6* that I could play this year that would keep me interested. Moleman may be new but doesn't interest a lot of ppl. Ppl are missing the classic champs that brought them to this game in the first place. Getting a new champ can be enjoyable for a short period of time but at least for me I want the classic champs returned to the contest. I would even be ok with new versions of the classic champs if that's what it takes to get them playable in the game even though most would prefer reworks of the older champs.
Not tryna sound rude or anything but what d I es this thread even change, like they already made the characters it's not like they're are just gonna scrap for the past year and a half they've been dropping new characters but as soon as 1 month they decide not to people get mad. I don't usually side with Kabam but thia is a ridiculous reason to get Nad simply just don't get the Champs and move on.
My other problem lies in the fact of them both being Kabam original champions
I've never understood this complaint. We don't complain about the Vision being a Jack Kirby original character, why is it relevant that a character is created by Kabam designer guy rather than a Timely comics employee?
It is weird to me to think that in which medium a character shows up first matters. They're all Marvel characters, whether they were created by Timely comics employees, Marvel Comics employees, or Kabam employees. Harley Quinn was invented for DC animation long before she showed up in the comics, but we don't consider her a less "legitimate" DC character. As this is all Marvel IP, it is almost like we're telling Marvel itself they aren't allowed to introduce new characters in video games.
@UmbertoDelRio i don’t know if you’re blind, but what I see is sym supreme with a gender swap and Karen haircut = sorcerer supreme. I think their abilities are great. Am I not allowed to have my own opinion on their design? I’m simply not a fan of it
Bruh her design is inspired by Doctor Strange. You can tell by the patterns on her suit. The lines around her chest are the same on doctor strange. Shes wearing the same CLOTHES. She doesnt have anything to do with Sym. Sym is controlled by a symbiote. Sor supreme doesnt have a symbiote. Duh. Doctor stranges skin has also been blue before. I think it was his skin anyway. I believe he was a mage but ill google it later.
Storm isnt a reskin lmao. Yea maybe she has the same body type like 99% of the females in this game but she aint a reskin. Hair cut isnt even the same. Her skin has apocalypse symbols which looks bad ass. Her animations are glorious.
stranges skin has also been blue before. I think it was his skin anyway. I believe he was a mage
Yea just looked it up and the Dr Strange with the blue skin was called Blue Mage. But it wasnt skin it was actually a blue mask with *GASP* yellow eyes, just like this new Sorcerer supreme.
Perhaps they drew inspiration from that Doctor Strange run in the comics to make her look more diverse from the other Doctor Strange type characters??? WOW, shocking!!!
I’m sorry if I offended anyone who actually likes the character designs. I personally don’t enjoy them and think they are bland. It’s fine if you disagree with me. I’m not looking to start an argument
its okay to share your opinions but when u straight away say that a character is trash, u r disrespecting all the efforts put behind them by the creative team and yes their design is awsome
more over ur not doing any productive criticism,if u would suggest some ways they can be improved, i would appreciated
My other problem lies in the fact of them both being Kabam original champions
What’s so bad about about that? Kabam original characters have been in Marvel comics before. Every character is someone’s original character (most of the time). What’s the big deal?
It’s sort of like saying you don’t like Captain America because he was created by Jack Kirby. What’s the problem with that?
Hate to break it to you but we are getting 3 more houses from mroc based off the synergy from the 2 new champs coming next month.
Um, looking at the descriptions for the champion synergies, it just looks like they haven’t completely finished the graphics.
The house of iron synergy for Sorcerer Supreme is for IMIW, Hulkbuster, War Machine, and OG Iron Man.
The Gamma Horde synergy is for Joe Fixit, Gladiator Hulk, She Hulk, Red Hulk, and OG Hulk.
The Spider-Guild synergy for Storm (Pyramid X), is for Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Spider-Gwen, and OG Spider-Man.
I doubt that those synergy slots are from Champs that are in the game by the name of the synergy it's pretty much guaranteed that they plan on using more MROC Champs who would they just stop at 2? They're probably going to add all to fully promote MROC
Hate to break it to you but we are getting 3 more houses from mroc based off the synergy from the 2 new champs coming next month.
Um, looking at the descriptions for the champion synergies, it just looks like they haven’t completely finished the graphics.
The house of iron synergy for Sorcerer Supreme is for IMIW, Hulkbuster, War Machine, and OG Iron Man.
The Gamma Horde synergy is for Joe Fixit, Gladiator Hulk, She Hulk, Red Hulk, and OG Hulk.
The Spider-Guild synergy for Storm (Pyramid X), is for Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Spider-Gwen, and OG Spider-Man.
I doubt that those synergy slots are from Champs that are in the game by the name of the synergy it's pretty much guaranteed that they plan on using more MROC Champs who would they just stop at 2? They're probably going to add all to fully promote MROC
Oh, no doubt they are going to add more, that was clear from the updated champion puzzle. What @RiderofHell was implying was that those empty spots were for new champions, and I was saying that those spots were possibly unfinished pictures of the remaining synergy members.
Don't worry.... I completely see what you are talking about. I don't share your same exact sentiments, but I do understand.
Instead of creating this... "new" Sourcer Supreme, and Storm X.. why not create someone 100% new and original like Guilly or Ægon. I get you.
I feel similar... The 2 WOMEN champs who added diversity has both turned into blue characters. I just don't get it. How can the design team be so blind and oblivious to these ideas.
Prepare yourself for more stronger version of already present in the game characters.
Iron legionnaire: Currently unknown Web warrior: Currently unknown Hulk: Possibly Bruce Banner possibly not Super Soldier: Currently unknown Thor: Probably odinson Sorcerer Supreme: Kabam original character Black panther: Definitely not t'challa Storm: According to her spotlight she's "not the storm we know" - could very well be just a creation of apocalypse based on storm's dna or something
I fail to see your point.
Changing their origin story and name isn't going to change their powers. They are based on the characters we already have in the game. They have similar powers. But the developers will give these champs insane abilities and mechanics which will make these champs stronger and more useful.
My point is there are so many characters not in the game yet. But Kabam decides to add iteration of those characters which are already present in the game.
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I said they probably will
All og characters are technically in the game already.
The collector collects heroes. They could be in those crystals waiting for the collector to release them and get used for a mission. The battle realm is wide and parts of it are unknown. Some champs might have been already released (can't speak for timelines) and are just in hiding, planning and what not.
But mroc is a different realm entirely from the looks of it. It's tied with the battle realm but not of the battle realm
Which brings me back to felganos point.
If mroc was released first we would know better.
Storm might be an exception here
And overarching realm?
Do you think programmers and designers work for free? They'll just redesign older champs just because? The game has to move forward and that means releasing new content and champs and keeps revenue coming. Buffing older champs that most of us probably already have, won't make them money since we have them already.
No reason to get mad at this.
It is weird to me to think that in which medium a character shows up first matters. They're all Marvel characters, whether they were created by Timely comics employees, Marvel Comics employees, or Kabam employees. Harley Quinn was invented for DC animation long before she showed up in the comics, but we don't consider her a less "legitimate" DC character. As this is all Marvel IP, it is almost like we're telling Marvel itself they aren't allowed to introduce new characters in video games.
Storm isnt a reskin lmao. Yea maybe she has the same body type like 99% of the females in this game but she aint a reskin. Hair cut isnt even the same. Her skin has apocalypse symbols which looks bad ass. Her animations are glorious.
Quit being ****hurt.
Perhaps they drew inspiration from that Doctor Strange run in the comics to make her look more diverse from the other Doctor Strange type characters??? WOW, shocking!!!
The house of iron synergy for Sorcerer Supreme is for IMIW, Hulkbuster, War Machine, and OG Iron Man.
The Gamma Horde synergy is for Joe Fixit, Gladiator Hulk, She Hulk, Red Hulk, and OG Hulk.
The Spider-Guild synergy for Storm (Pyramid X), is for Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Spider-Gwen, and OG Spider-Man.
It’s sort of like saying you don’t like Captain America because he was created by Jack Kirby. What’s the problem with that?
Oh, no doubt they are going to add more, that was clear from the updated champion puzzle. What @RiderofHell was implying was that those empty spots were for new champions, and I was saying that those spots were possibly unfinished pictures of the remaining synergy members.
Instead of creating this... "new" Sourcer Supreme, and Storm X.. why not create someone 100% new and original like Guilly or Ægon. I get you.
I feel similar...
The 2 WOMEN champs who added diversity has both turned into blue characters. I just don't get it. How can the design team be so blind and oblivious to these ideas.
Prepare yourself for more stronger version of already present in the game characters.
My point is there are so many characters not in the game yet. But Kabam decides to add iteration of those characters which are already present in the game.