@Kabam Miike you can’t explain how this is okay. We put a lot of time and resources into trying to do well in AW and this is how Kabam treats us. Your response that some matchups are harder than others and you have to work your way to the top is insulting to the effort we put in. The way Kabam treats customers is ridiculous and the only recourse is to what, quit the game? I don’t want to quit I just want Kabam to treat its players “aka customers” fairly.
Hello everyone! i want to ask if there was a problem with war matchups ! m alliance raiting is 16mill and the opponent is 26 mill this is unfair , they are very strong and there is no way t win them ! i think is unfair match making ! i just want t discuss if we are the only one who have the same problem at this war ! thanks
@Amms90 you’re a 7.7 mil alliance with a 2.3k aw rating. You should never be that high if you still use R3 5*’s in attack phase. It ain’t your fault, it was the matchmaking systems fault but you’re gonna have a harsch rest of the season. My condolences
We got that war rating by winning fair wars... It's not that we won wars against opponents that were a fourth of our size. They were sometimes a little bigger sometimes a little smaller, with similar war rating. We don't exactly attack with r3 but our defense is mostly made of those, yeah. Some 4* as well, cause we have smaller profiles of progressing players among us. But we play fairly. 3 war groups! That means each and every of my players can do his/her job and clear a path in war. This is if we play fair wars. If we get paired with such high level opponents we can do nothing but give up... And look if we end the season in gold 3 instead of the gold 2 we were aiming at, that's still okay for us. I surely hope we don't fall even lower, cause we haven't fought our way here just to get wrecked in all the next wars until the system decides we are in our rightful place. Be it silver or bronze, whatever they decide. We are people, not numbers. We played well and won. If we hadn't, we would have lost. I'll tell you more: with the same matchmaking system as before, we even lost a couple wars off season. Wars we intended to win. So my point is still the same. Why punish us for playing fairly and winning our way to the gold tier? Rather, if climbing the ladder is too easy then fix that. Pointless to give us a bunch of wars we simply can't hope to win to forcefully drag us down. That's not what fairness means.
The root of this problem is “shell” alliances. After high ranked teams finish the season then all 30 members jump to another newly created alliance & beat the heck out of much lower ranked teams. Thus almost guaranteeing they’ll never lose
Alliance Wars are not solely based on any one factor, but you will be matched with Alliances near your War Rating. This is a performance-based rating that changes with your Alliance's wins and losses. Alliance Rating can be manipulated, so is not a good matchmaking comparison.
We are continuing to work to improve our matchmaking parameters with every Season and even in between. Some Wars will be more difficult than others, but if you want to climb to the top, you're going to have to earn your spot!
This response is an insult to how hard our alliance works to score well.
There is absolutely no scenario where the alliance we are currently facing should ever be matched up against us. If it were available in AW they could clear our map with auto pilot and we couldn’t clear their map if we had 15 full health team revives to use.
Alliance Wars are not solely based on any one factor, but you will be matched with Alliances near your War Rating. This is a performance-based rating that changes with your Alliance's wins and losses. Alliance Rating can be manipulated, so is not a good matchmaking comparison.
We are continuing to work to improve our matchmaking parameters with every Season and even in between. Some Wars will be more difficult than others, but if you want to climb to the top, you're going to have to earn your spot!
This response is an insult to how hard our alliance works to score well.
There is absolutely no scenario where the alliance we are currently facing should ever be matched up against us. If it were available in AW they could clear our map with auto pilot and we couldn’t clear their map if we had 15 full health team revives to use.
Because you shouldn’t be where you are. Match making was broke and now you will go down to where you belong.
Just happened to our Alliance as well - except we paired against someone MUCH worse than us.... feel bad for them.
Something is wrong.
Nothing wrong. The wrong thing is when strong alliances only matches to strong and weak matches to weak. That system is stupid and let weak alliances get to top spot.
@Kabam Miike@Kabam Zibiit@Kabam Vydious@Kabam Lyra@Kabam Porthos We are an alliance with 16million rating and average member rating of around 550k and ur matchmaking program paired us with an alliance with 32 million rating and average member rating of around 1.05 million rating...How do u expect us to go against these alliance?
You are in a wrong position. You shouldn't be there and I'm glad that finally justice comes to you and your teammates.
This the worst mismatch I’ve seen. Feel bad for the guys. Not that we are a competitive war clan by any means but this seems to be the worst mismatch out of the whole post
@Amms90 you’re a 7.7 mil alliance with a 2.3k aw rating. You should never be that high if you still use R3 5*’s in attack phase. It ain’t your fault, it was the matchmaking systems fault but you’re gonna have a harsch rest of the season. My condolences
We got that war rating by winning fair wars... It's not that we won wars against opponents that were a fourth of our size. They were sometimes a little bigger sometimes a little smaller, with similar war rating. We don't exactly attack with r3 but our defense is mostly made of those, yeah. Some 4* as well, cause we have smaller profiles of progressing players among us. But we play fairly. 3 war groups! That means each and every of my players can do his/her job and clear a path in war. This is if we play fair wars. If we get paired with such high level opponents we can do nothing but give up... And look if we end the season in gold 3 instead of the gold 2 we were aiming at, that's still okay for us. I surely hope we don't fall even lower, cause we haven't fought our way here just to get wrecked in all the next wars until the system decides we are in our rightful place. Be it silver or bronze, whatever they decide. We are people, not numbers. We played well and won. If we hadn't, we would have lost. I'll tell you more: with the same matchmaking system as before, we even lost a couple wars off season. Wars we intended to win. So my point is still the same. Why punish us for playing fairly and winning our way to the gold tier? Rather, if climbing the ladder is too easy then fix that. Pointless to give us a bunch of wars we simply can't hope to win to forcefully drag us down. That's not what fairness means.
You just stop. It's ridiculous. If you are good enough as you said you should be able to beat alliance with same war rating.
It's clearly that you are not good enough. I'm happy to see you get what you deserve.
War rating is important, if you have high rating you should be able to compete with alliances in same rating. If you can’t, you slowly drop to the level/bracket with alliances your size, skill and rosters.
It’s same in sports if you think about it. You can be a noob but will still need to beat guys like Nadal and Djokovic if you want to advance in the tournament, you don’t get to play easier opponents and cruise to same rewards as top players.
Today we are facing an alliance that has no business being in our class. For them it may seem unfair. For us it has seemed unfair that they were ranked higher than us and got better rewards than us, despite the fact that we could wipe the flow with them (I meant to do that). We work hard on war... we plan, we boost, we rank for defense.... they do the same but at a much much lower level. I don’t think they suck, they are good but not in our class. Getting prestige out of matchmaking was important. Great job kabam! I would have preferred the change between seasons, but between season a few seasons ago. Fix the problem when you know there is a problem though. What they did is easier than going back and adjusting past season standings that make no sense.
Same here. This is not fair. We all confronting opponents who are double in alliance rating. Is this matchmaking a fair??? We opponent A.rating 178000000 35400000 Avg player 550000 800k+ Prestige 7100 10100
My ally got matched up with one that is 4.5 million, while we are 22.5 million. Same war rating though. They’re using four stars and we’re using 5 and 6 stars. Seems unfair.
Alliance Wars are not solely based on any one factor, but you will be matched with Alliances near your War Rating. This is a performance-based rating that changes with your Alliance's wins and losses. Alliance Rating can be manipulated, so is not a good matchmaking comparison.
We are continuing to work to improve our matchmaking parameters with every Season and even in between. Some Wars will be more difficult than others, but if you want to climb to the top, you're going to have to earn your spot!
I hope you will continue to do that, and some not Master-worthy alliances who do take advantage of some weaknesses in matchmaking system will not appear in that bracket anymore)) I'm pretty sure everyone knows which alliance I talk about.
Alliance Wars are not solely based on any one factor, but you will be matched with Alliances near your War Rating. This is a performance-based rating that changes with your Alliance's wins and losses. Alliance Rating can be manipulated, so is not a good matchmaking comparison.
We are continuing to work to improve our matchmaking parameters with every Season and even in between. Some Wars will be more difficult than others, but if you want to climb to the top, you're going to have to earn your spot!
Just want to say that you are doing the right thing and keep up with that don't let cry babies affect to your decisions.
My ally got matched up with one that is 4.5 million, while we are 22.5 million. Same war rating though. They’re using four stars and we’re using 5 and 6 stars. Seems unfair.
So that alliance with 4* took one spot should belong to a stronger alliance because of stupid alliances rating system. That's unfair.
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@Kabam Miike you can’t explain how this is okay. We put a lot of time and resources into trying to do well in AW and this is how Kabam treats us. Your response that some matchups are harder than others and you have to work your way to the top is insulting to the effort we put in. The way Kabam treats customers is ridiculous and the only recourse is to what, quit the game? I don’t want to quit I just want Kabam to treat its players “aka customers” fairly.
i just want t discuss if we are the only one who have the same problem at this war !
thanks
There is absolutely no scenario where the alliance we are currently facing should ever be matched up against us. If it were available in AW they could clear our map with auto pilot and we couldn’t clear their map if we had 15 full health team revives to use.
You got too much rewards that you don't deserve.
This the worst mismatch I’ve seen. Feel bad for the guys. Not that we are a competitive war clan by any means but this seems to be the worst mismatch out of the whole post
It's clearly that you are not good enough. I'm happy to see you get what you deserve.
It’s same in sports if you think about it. You can be a noob but will still need to beat guys like Nadal and Djokovic if you want to advance in the tournament, you don’t get to play easier opponents and cruise to same rewards as top players.
This way you will not loose too many points and resources with this war.
That thought alone make me sick.
Is this matchmaking a fair???
We opponent
A.rating 178000000 35400000
Avg player 550000 800k+
Prestige 7100 10100
Is this a fair matchmaking??????