I’m sure that people across the game could be more careful in their rank ups, but to be honest gold shouldn’t be the factor that limits your rank ups, it should be T1A/T2A etc. I shouldn’t have to pull a calculator and a an excel spreadsheet and calculate the gold cost of all of my rank up options before doing it.
Kabam have done a good job in easing the T1A and T4B bottlenecks in the recent monthly side quests chucking out quite a lot of resources but I’d imagine that there are a huge amount of players with overflowing stashes or unlevelled champs because they simply can’t afford to use the resources. With the rate at which we obtain rank up resources increases then so too does the rate at which gold can be obtained - outside of spending 3 hours a day in arena.
I’ve not explored the last bit of 6.4 (3 runs left) primarily because I know that all of those resources are going to go straight into my overflow, even with the nice boost of gold.
Some people will never acknowledge there is a problem , wonder if half the users here are kabam bots ?
If half the users do not have a gold problem, that would indicate that there is not one. It indicates that half know how to budget and half do not.
Start a new account and see how real the gold problem is !! For older accounts that usually sell duped iso for gold , gold is never an issue hence they don’t understand
My account has 22m gold , yet I wouldn’t disagree there is no gold issue , although not so severe in my case
My newer lvl 60 is having a constant gold crunch , can’t rank up champs coz there is no farmable gold other than getting old in the arenas
Also, it’s a game with 170 champions. I’d like the opportunity to play with those 170 champions, not just the 1 R4 or whatever you can afford each month.
I’m sure that people across the game could be more careful in their rank ups, but to be honest gold shouldn’t be the factor that limits your rank ups, it should be T1A/T2A etc. I shouldn’t have to pull a calculator and a an excel spreadsheet and calculate the gold cost of all of my rank up options before doing it.
Kabam have done a good job in easing the T1A and T4B bottlenecks in the recent monthly side quests chucking out quite a lot of resources but I’d imagine that there are a huge amount of players with overflowing stashes or unlevelled champs because they simply can’t afford to use the resources. With the rate at which we obtain rank up resources increases then so too does the rate at which gold can be obtained - outside of spending 3 hours a day in arena.
I’ve not explored the last bit of 6.4 (3 runs left) primarily because I know that all of those resources are going to go straight into my overflow, even with the nice boost of gold.
i am in this situation. explored variants, completed act 6 and abyss and i got t5b in overflow, so had to rank5 several champs. at the beginning of 2020 year, i had no issues with gold, was at 7-8 mil, now i dont have it at all and again i have 2 t5b in overflow and need again about 2-3 mil to rank again some one. that i big problem for for past few months
Also, it’s a game with 170 champions. I’d like the opportunity to play with those 170 champions, not just the 1 R4 or whatever you can afford each month.
It's just ridiculous to think anyone should be able to get the resources to rank up all their champs quickly! If you practiced resource management and intelligent rank ups, there wouldn't be a resource issue. There are so many ways to get gold these days. If you don't want to put in the time or the cash needed for this game, then don't complain.
Also, it’s a game with 170 champions. I’d like the opportunity to play with those 170 champions, not just the 1 R4 or whatever you can afford each month.
It's just ridiculous to think anyone should be able to get the resources to rank up all their champs quickly! If you practiced resource management and intelligent rank ups, there wouldn't be a resource issue. There are so many ways to get gold these days. If you don't want to put in the time or the cash needed for this game, then don't complain.
I put a lot of time into the game and manage my resources pretty well. It doesn’t change the fact that I’ve got around 50 R1 5*s that I’m just never going to use because gold is in such short supply. I’ve got a lot of highly ranked champs, and a lot that I would like to rank.
The fact that ‘cash’, or grind arena for an hour or two a day is the answer to gold is farcical.
Also, it’s a game with 170 champions. I’d like the opportunity to play with those 170 champions, not just the 1 R4 or whatever you can afford each month.
It's just ridiculous to think anyone should be able to get the resources to rank up all their champs quickly! If you practiced resource management and intelligent rank ups, there wouldn't be a resource issue. There are so many ways to get gold these days. If you don't want to put in the time or the cash needed for this game, then don't complain.
I put a lot of time into the game and manage my resources pretty well. It doesn’t change the fact that I’ve got around 50 R1 5*s that I’m just never going to use because gold is in such short supply. I’ve got a lot of highly ranked champs, and a lot that I would like to rank.
The fact that ‘cash’, or grind arena for an hour or two a day is the answer to gold is farcical.
I have over 80 5* and I can bring all to r2 at least (10 of which at r4 or above and majority at r3). Once again I think you really need to figure out your own gold exploration and usage pattern or otherwise you can never break through the bottleneck. Gold problem is acknowledged but it is far from being a crisis. Just like I have T1a shortage regularly but I can figure out how to resolve and maintain 30k SA contribution to the alliance each week.
Also, it’s a game with 170 champions. I’d like the opportunity to play with those 170 champions, not just the 1 R4 or whatever you can afford each month.
It's just ridiculous to think anyone should be able to get the resources to rank up all their champs quickly! If you practiced resource management and intelligent rank ups, there wouldn't be a resource issue. There are so many ways to get gold these days. If you don't want to put in the time or the cash needed for this game, then don't complain.
It takes 1.5m gold to take a 5* from 4/55 to 5/65 and how long does one have to grind to get 1.5m ? Only 1 champ ....I want another 4/55 or maybe max a 4* for UC eq , can’t do it ..
Gold problem is real , resource management is a stupid blame thrown at other , 80% of the champs have no utility or damage , where does the gold go then ? People obviously don’t eat it
Also, it’s a game with 170 champions. I’d like the opportunity to play with those 170 champions, not just the 1 R4 or whatever you can afford each month.
It's just ridiculous to think anyone should be able to get the resources to rank up all their champs quickly! If you practiced resource management and intelligent rank ups, there wouldn't be a resource issue. There are so many ways to get gold these days. If you don't want to put in the time or the cash needed for this game, then don't complain.
I put a lot of time into the game and manage my resources pretty well. It doesn’t change the fact that I’ve got around 50 R1 5*s that I’m just never going to use because gold is in such short supply. I’ve got a lot of highly ranked champs, and a lot that I would like to rank.
The fact that ‘cash’, or grind arena for an hour or two a day is the answer to gold is farcical.
I have over 80 5* and I can bring all to r2 at least (10 of which at r4 or above and majority at r3). Once again I think you really need to figure out your own gold exploration and usage pattern or otherwise you can never break through the bottleneck. Gold problem is acknowledged but it is far from being a crisis. Just like I have T1a shortage regularly but I can figure out how to resolve and maintain 30k SA contribution to the alliance each week.
I never said it was a crisis. At no point have I said I want to rank all of my champions at once, I have well over 30 R4+ 5*, I know how to manage my resources. My problem is that every now and then it’d be fun to break out an average-bad champion but I can never justify the gold to rank them up because it’s needed elsewhere.
Arena is the best source of gold, never disputed that, but if you want to make more than 1 decent rank up you have either got to grind arena - which is actually less enjoyable than my job - or sell ISO. If you factor in AQ costs on top of that it isn’t great.
The fact that it is so grind-led is beginning to leach the fun out of it.
Arena really does suck and it's unfortunate that the higher levels of the game require it. There is simply no way for me to keep up with the rate at which I acquire catalysts without arena. Even with arena I'm still far behind.
For people that don't understand math, maybe it's hard for them to comprehend this problem. The RATE at which you acquire catalysts (specifically t2a and t5b) is higher than the RATE at which you can acquire the gold necessary to use those materials. Therefore, given enough time, you will always run out of gold.
The only way to overcome this simple math equation is to do a combination of 3 things:
1. Slow down your acquisition of catalysts by either not completing quest content or not doing AQ/AW 2. Buy tons of crystals to dupe champs and sell the iso 3. Let your catalysts expire
Well I don't like any of those options so I'd rather come here and explain for the 205884357209834572893 time that gold is a serious problem.
These threads usually start with someone talking about how they don't do any of the things that are already in place to earn gold and then claim there's a gold shortage. Oh wait, so did this one
Old accounts have all (or most) of the champ's and are likely to pull dupes to get iso they can sell. They're are close to 200 champ's now and dupes for accounts 2 years or less (let's say on average) are less likely to get consistent dupes that bring iso into overflow that can be sold. I grind arena a couple hours a day and it barely makes a dent for the next R4 or R5 and I do all the events and AQ with extra energy spent every day.
I'm not taking everyone up and have a ton of R5 at R1 or not even leveled and have several rankup gems from variant that will take many many months to use cause of a gold shortage and I'm doing everything I can without spending an arm and a leg on Cavalier crystals that mostly net 3* and it is a very slow processing to get enough gold to rank someone!! How long is reasonable to accumulate 1m gold? A month is waaay tooo long and asking people to grind arena 3 hours a day is way to unrealistic as a constant source of gold.
There needs to be a middle ground. Weve seen lots of great suggestions that won't hurt Kabams bottom line or unbalance the game and a mix of some/any of them could easily be added to keep the game fun, allow for rankups and not require total spending on crystals to get dupes just to sell iso.
- more iso for 5 or 6 star dupes - why is it the same for 4,5 and 6 star dupes when the resources needed for higher champ's is so much more?
- more gold rewards for uncollected and cavalier content. They're giving out more cats, we need the gold to use them but it is not nearly enough.
- more gold rewards for Act 5 and 6
- get rid of gold. We already need iso and multiple catalysts types and gold too. Arena is really just a very repetitive and disheartening gold grind unless you want a specific champ, but the botss help ensure many of the champ's are unattainable anyway.
These threads usually start with someone talking about how they don't do any of the things that are already in place to earn gold and then claim there's a gold shortage. Oh wait, so did this one
I don’t like to sell my soul to the arena, but hey, everyone’s different.
These threads usually start with someone talking about how they don't do any of the things that are already in place to earn gold and then claim there's a gold shortage. Oh wait, so did this one
I don’t like to sell my soul to the arena, but hey, everyone’s different.
You don't have to. Do the first 3 milestones. But this is exactly what his point is. They give you a way to get gold but you don't want to do it. So is there really a gold problem or just a "you" problem?
Also, it’s a game with 170 champions. I’d like the opportunity to play with those 170 champions, not just the 1 R4 or whatever you can afford each month.
It's just ridiculous to think anyone should be able to get the resources to rank up all their champs quickly! If you practiced resource management and intelligent rank ups, there wouldn't be a resource issue. There are so many ways to get gold these days. If you don't want to put in the time or the cash needed for this game, then don't complain.
It takes 1.5m gold to take a 5* from 4/55 to 5/65 and how long does one have to grind to get 1.5m ? Only 1 champ ....I want another 4/55 or maybe max a 4* for UC eq , can’t do it ..
Gold problem is real , resource management is a stupid blame thrown at other , 80% of the champs have no utility or damage , where does the gold go then ? People obviously don’t eat it
It can take about a couple weeks. (Possibly a month.)
Also, it’s a game with 170 champions. I’d like the opportunity to play with those 170 champions, not just the 1 R4 or whatever you can afford each month.
It's just ridiculous to think anyone should be able to get the resources to rank up all their champs quickly! If you practiced resource management and intelligent rank ups, there wouldn't be a resource issue. There are so many ways to get gold these days. If you don't want to put in the time or the cash needed for this game, then don't complain.
I put a lot of time into the game and manage my resources pretty well. It doesn’t change the fact that I’ve got around 50 R1 5*s that I’m just never going to use because gold is in such short supply. I’ve got a lot of highly ranked champs, and a lot that I would like to rank.
The fact that ‘cash’, or grind arena for an hour or two a day is the answer to gold is farcical.
Let’s be honest here. You’ll never use your 5*s until they are at least R4. Even if the so-called “Gold problem” is solved, people will just complain about T2A and T5B being too hard to obtain.
About 3 months back (I think) when 6.4 was released, I was sitting at 91m gold. There’s the screenshot somewhere in the forums.
Fast forward 3 months or so, after exploring A6 100%, spending all the rank up materials obtained from A6 + regular glory purchases + 780k Gold weekly donations, I’m back at 92m.
Why not buy the sigil? It’s so dope. You get like 120k in gold every week. It’s about 5% of what it costs to R2 a 6*. 20 some weeks later, if you’ve got the iso... that champs R2. Pretty amazing. I’m about 120 weeks from a decent roster. That is if I don’t pull anymore god tier champs.
There’s no gold shortage, just need to wait weeks and months to use those rank up gems unless you want to spend hours daily grind the arena and trolling every quality of life post on the forums. Thinking of you @Demonzfyre 😘
Whatever dude. Not sure what I said constitutes as trolling. Just explaining what I do to maintain gold on my account. But hey, the only way to be cool on the forums is to complain about every single aspect of the game, how Kabam isn't generous, how we never get anything we want and blah blah blah Kabam is the worst. Would that make me cool in your eyes? Oh wait, I don't give a **** about your opinion.
That's what I call derailing the thread right there
About 3 months back (I think) when 6.4 was released, I was sitting at 91m gold. There’s the screenshot somewhere in the forums.
Fast forward 3 months or so, after exploring A6 100%, spending all the rank up materials obtained from A6 + regular glory purchases + 780k Gold weekly donations, I’m back at 92m.
Is there a gold problem? Lol
How many Cavs do you buy on average and how many greater gifting did you buy? You have to be spending to have that kind of gold. Clearly it's not an issue for everyone, especially those spending a lot of money on the game.
However, F2P, especially newer accounts who have not been around since the beginning don't get all the dupes to sell iso and can't grow gold quick enough to keep up with the cost of 6* and higher level 5* that were getting.
I've got 49 x 5* and 4 x 6*. Only 9 of my 5* are duped but 4 I used AG's on so 5 natural dupes (10% of my roster and a drop in the bucket for the total pool of champ's). 4* shards don't come in as much as they used to as cavalier and 5* dupes are rare for me. Not a big spender so I have to work with what I get.
Max arena gold is 120,000 if you hit all gold milestones in the arenas and that takes a lot of time with people who don't have every champ to throw at it or units to refresh. So let's call it 250k a week if you're doing a lot of arena and hitting all gold milestones twice a week, plus what you get from arena crystals.
It takes about 1.2m to go from R4 to R5 so you're looking at least a month to r4 or R5 one champ and benching everyone else for rankups in the process (new 6* or other potentials to R4 or even start with R1 and bring up). That is not a lot of fun and neither is having to spend to get more crystal dupes just to be able to use the rewards from variant to bring up some champ's that don't need anything other than gold and iso.
Why not buy the sigil? It’s so dope. You get like 120k in gold every week. It’s about 5% of what it costs to R2 a 6*. 20 some weeks later, if you’ve got the iso... that champs R2. Pretty amazing. I’m about 120 weeks from a decent roster. That is if I don’t pull anymore god tier champs.
There’s no gold shortage, just need to wait weeks and months to use those rank up gems unless you want to spend hours daily grind the arena and trolling every quality of life post on the forums. Thinking of you @Demonzfyre 😘
Whatever dude. Not sure what I said constitutes as trolling. Just explaining what I do to maintain gold on my account. But hey, the only way to be cool on the forums is to complain about every single aspect of the game, how Kabam isn't generous, how we never get anything we want and blah blah blah Kabam is the worst. Would that make me cool in your eyes? Oh wait, I don't give a **** about your opinion.
That's what I call derailing the thread right there
@shadow_lurker22 right.... But what he said wasn't? Calling me out directly just to take a jab at me when I was trying to help the OP? Or derailing it further by adding the comment you just made?
Hypocrisy at it's finest. So when you all create the issue it's fine huh?
Why not buy the sigil? It’s so dope. You get like 120k in gold every week. It’s about 5% of what it costs to R2 a 6*. 20 some weeks later, if you’ve got the iso... that champs R2. Pretty amazing. I’m about 120 weeks from a decent roster. That is if I don’t pull anymore god tier champs.
There’s no gold shortage, just need to wait weeks and months to use those rank up gems unless you want to spend hours daily grind the arena and trolling every quality of life post on the forums. Thinking of you @Demonzfyre 😘
Whatever dude. Not sure what I said constitutes as trolling. Just explaining what I do to maintain gold on my account. But hey, the only way to be cool on the forums is to complain about every single aspect of the game, how Kabam isn't generous, how we never get anything we want and blah blah blah Kabam is the worst. Would that make me cool in your eyes? Oh wait, I don't give a **** about your opinion.
That's what I call derailing the thread right there
@shadow_lurker22 right.... But what he said wasn't? Calling me out directly just to take a jab at me when I was trying to help the OP? Or derailing it further by adding the comment you just made?
Hypocrisy at it's finest. So when you all create the issue it's fine huh?
Why not buy the sigil? It’s so dope. You get like 120k in gold every week. It’s about 5% of what it costs to R2 a 6*. 20 some weeks later, if you’ve got the iso... that champs R2. Pretty amazing. I’m about 120 weeks from a decent roster. That is if I don’t pull anymore god tier champs.
There’s no gold shortage, just need to wait weeks and months to use those rank up gems unless you want to spend hours daily grind the arena and trolling every quality of life post on the forums. Thinking of you @Demonzfyre 😘
Whatever dude. Not sure what I said constitutes as trolling. Just explaining what I do to maintain gold on my account. But hey, the only way to be cool on the forums is to complain about every single aspect of the game, how Kabam isn't generous, how we never get anything we want and blah blah blah Kabam is the worst. Would that make me cool in your eyes? Oh wait, I don't give a **** about your opinion.
That's what I call derailing the thread right there
@shadow_lurker22 right.... But what he said wasn't? Calling me out directly just to take a jab at me when I was trying to help the OP? Or derailing it further by adding the comment you just made?
Hypocrisy at it's finest. So when you all create the issue it's fine huh?
I'd bet money that this is mainly due to the ramp up in the glory store, free t2a in the calendar and V3/v4.
So much more t5b and t2a (or r3 to r4 gems) is available allowing the most expensive rank ups, demolishes gold reserves for those who have NOT been used to ranking up lots of characters to higher levels almost every month.
Personally, I sell all basic ISO and most ISO below t5, but I've still been getting the 4th milestone (never go beyond it) in level up for the units, for the last year or so. And I vary between 700k and 2.5m depending on how many of the t4b and t1a arenas I run, which until the new Sunday arena was the only ones I run.
I've only run a couple of incursions, run map 4 only, cavalier...
But, I am sitting on 6 rank 2 to 3 5* gems, 3 rank 3 to 4 5* gems and 6 t5b. I don't have the t2a or gold to really use them...
So for general use, without the variants of say even at daily mcoc play, pretty heavily, for a cavalier in an alliance hitting 100m AQ score... There's not enough gold right now, without playing a lot more... But, I need to save t2a from glory for 2 months to rank up 3 more 5* to 5/65 and think I'll just about get there on gold.
But I can really, really see how some people would really be struggling with it.
Don't think kabam can turn the taps on though, as it's not commercially viable.
About 3 months back (I think) when 6.4 was released, I was sitting at 91m gold. There’s the screenshot somewhere in the forums.
Fast forward 3 months or so, after exploring A6 100%, spending all the rank up materials obtained from A6 + regular glory purchases + 780k Gold weekly donations, I’m back at 92m.
Is there a gold problem? Lol
How many Cavs do you buy on average and how many greater gifting did you buy? You have to be spending to have that kind of gold. Clearly it's not an issue for everyone, especially those spending a lot of money on the game.
However, F2P, especially newer accounts who have not been around since the beginning don't get all the dupes to sell iso and can't grow gold quick enough to keep up with the cost of 6* and higher level 5* that were getting.
I've got 49 x 5* and 4 x 6*. Only 9 of my 5* are duped but 4 I used AG's on so 5 natural dupes (10% of my roster and a drop in the bucket for the total pool of champ's). 4* shards don't come in as much as they used to as cavalier and 5* dupes are rare for me. Not a big spender so I have to work with what I get.
Max arena gold is 120,000 if you hit all gold milestones in the arenas and that takes a lot of time with people who don't have every champ to throw at it or units to refresh. So let's call it 250k a week if you're doing a lot of arena and hitting all gold milestones twice a week, plus what you get from arena crystals.
It takes about 1.2m to go from R4 to R5 so you're looking at least a month to r4 or R5 one champ and benching everyone else for rankups in the process (new 6* or other potentials to R4 or even start with R1 and bring up). That is not a lot of fun and neither is having to spend to get more crystal dupes just to be able to use the rewards from variant to bring up some champ's that don't need anything other than gold and iso.
I'm pretty sure he's a light spender at most if even that these days. Certainly not spending enough to be getting most of his gold from it.
If newer accounts are flying through content faster than is intended then that's on them really. People playing for 4+ years already before act 6 was even released had a long time building up a roster of particularly 4* champs as that's where the vast majority of your iso will come from. 5* dupes are more of a bonus for most players I would think. With a flushed 4* roster you get plenty of iso even from phcs let alone the actual 4* crystals you get from phcs 3*s.
There is gold and iso in the game. If you're trying to go too far too fast and not doing the available things to get more gold and iso, that's definitely a you thing
What's too fast too soon based in all the other resources being available to rank but gold? Over a month to get enough gold to take one champ from R4 to R5 is pretty slow and limits ranking up anyone else. I'm pretty sure he spends considerably, but I'd let him answer since you and I can only guess. Most people don't have 90m gold banked away and 1.5m rosters. I'm not jealous of his gold, just tired of those with gold, who spend, saying how easy it is to get gold. Go check out KT1 YouTube and his thoughts on it too with his new baby account.
About 3 months back (I think) when 6.4 was released, I was sitting at 91m gold. There’s the screenshot somewhere in the forums.
Fast forward 3 months or so, after exploring A6 100%, spending all the rank up materials obtained from A6 + regular glory purchases + 780k Gold weekly donations, I’m back at 92m.
Is there a gold problem? Lol
How many Cavs do you buy on average and how many greater gifting did you buy? You have to be spending to have that kind of gold. Clearly it's not an issue for everyone, especially those spending a lot of money on the game.
However, F2P, especially newer accounts who have not been around since the beginning don't get all the dupes to sell iso and can't grow gold quick enough to keep up with the cost of 6* and higher level 5* that were getting.
I've got 49 x 5* and 4 x 6*. Only 9 of my 5* are duped but 4 I used AG's on so 5 natural dupes (10% of my roster and a drop in the bucket for the total pool of champ's). 4* shards don't come in as much as they used to as cavalier and 5* dupes are rare for me. Not a big spender so I have to work with what I get.
Max arena gold is 120,000 if you hit all gold milestones in the arenas and that takes a lot of time with people who don't have every champ to throw at it or units to refresh. So let's call it 250k a week if you're doing a lot of arena and hitting all gold milestones twice a week, plus what you get from arena crystals.
It takes about 1.2m to go from R4 to R5 so you're looking at least a month to r4 or R5 one champ and benching everyone else for rankups in the process (new 6* or other potentials to R4 or even start with R1 and bring up). That is not a lot of fun and neither is having to spend to get more crystal dupes just to be able to use the rewards from variant to bring up some champ's that don't need anything other than gold and iso.
About 3 months back (I think) when 6.4 was released, I was sitting at 91m gold. There’s the screenshot somewhere in the forums.
Fast forward 3 months or so, after exploring A6 100%, spending all the rank up materials obtained from A6 + regular glory purchases + 780k Gold weekly donations, I’m back at 92m.
Is there a gold problem? Lol
How many Cavs do you buy on average and how many greater gifting did you buy? You have to be spending to have that kind of gold. Clearly it's not an issue for everyone, especially those spending a lot of money on the game.
However, F2P, especially newer accounts who have not been around since the beginning don't get all the dupes to sell iso and can't grow gold quick enough to keep up with the cost of 6* and higher level 5* that were getting.
I've got 49 x 5* and 4 x 6*. Only 9 of my 5* are duped but 4 I used AG's on so 5 natural dupes (10% of my roster and a drop in the bucket for the total pool of champ's). 4* shards don't come in as much as they used to as cavalier and 5* dupes are rare for me. Not a big spender so I have to work with what I get.
Max arena gold is 120,000 if you hit all gold milestones in the arenas and that takes a lot of time with people who don't have every champ to throw at it or units to refresh. So let's call it 250k a week if you're doing a lot of arena and hitting all gold milestones twice a week, plus what you get from arena crystals.
It takes about 1.2m to go from R4 to R5 so you're looking at least a month to r4 or R5 one champ and benching everyone else for rankups in the process (new 6* or other potentials to R4 or even start with R1 and bring up). That is not a lot of fun and neither is having to spend to get more crystal dupes just to be able to use the rewards from variant to bring up some champ's that don't need anything other than gold and iso.
I'm pretty sure he's a light spender at most if even that these days. Certainly not spending enough to be getting most of his gold from it.
If newer accounts are flying through content faster than is intended then that's on them really. People playing for 4+ years already before act 6 was even released had a long time building up a roster of particularly 4* champs as that's where the vast majority of your iso will come from. 5* dupes are more of a bonus for most players I would think. With a flushed 4* roster you get plenty of iso even from phcs let alone the actual 4* crystals you get from phcs 3*s.
There is gold and iso in the game. If you're trying to go too far too fast and not doing the available things to get more gold and iso, that's definitely a you thing
Agree with Wnp on this.
For newer players, advice is to get your foundations and rosters right first. You’ll be slower to join the “end game” ranks, but what awaits you is a solid fundamental that will aid you in handling the hardest content in the game.
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Kabam have done a good job in easing the T1A and T4B bottlenecks in the recent monthly side quests chucking out quite a lot of resources but I’d imagine that there are a huge amount of players with overflowing stashes or unlevelled champs because they simply can’t afford to use the resources. With the rate at which we obtain rank up resources increases then so too does the rate at which gold can be obtained - outside of spending 3 hours a day in arena.
I’ve not explored the last bit of 6.4 (3 runs left) primarily because I know that all of those resources are going to go straight into my overflow, even with the nice boost of gold.
My account has 22m gold , yet I wouldn’t disagree there is no gold issue , although not so severe in my case
My newer lvl 60 is having a constant gold crunch , can’t rank up champs coz there is no farmable gold other than getting old in the arenas
The gold problem is real
It's just ridiculous to think anyone should be able to get the resources to rank up all their champs quickly! If you practiced resource management and intelligent rank ups, there wouldn't be a resource issue. There are so many ways to get gold these days. If you don't want to put in the time or the cash needed for this game, then don't complain.
The fact that ‘cash’, or grind arena for an hour or two a day is the answer to gold is farcical.
Gold problem is real , resource management is a stupid blame thrown at other , 80% of the champs have no utility or damage , where does the gold go then ? People obviously don’t eat it
Arena is the best source of gold, never disputed that, but if you want to make more than 1 decent rank up you have either got to grind arena - which is actually less enjoyable than my job - or sell ISO. If you factor in AQ costs on top of that it isn’t great.
The fact that it is so grind-led is beginning to leach the fun out of it.
Seems like this total game is a damn headache
For people that don't understand math, maybe it's hard for them to comprehend this problem.
The RATE at which you acquire catalysts (specifically t2a and t5b) is higher than the RATE at which you can acquire the gold necessary to use those materials. Therefore, given enough time, you will always run out of gold.
The only way to overcome this simple math equation is to do a combination of 3 things:
1. Slow down your acquisition of catalysts by either not completing quest content or not doing AQ/AW
2. Buy tons of crystals to dupe champs and sell the iso
3. Let your catalysts expire
Well I don't like any of those options so I'd rather come here and explain for the 205884357209834572893 time that gold is a serious problem.
I'm not taking everyone up and have a ton of R5 at R1 or not even leveled and have several rankup gems from variant that will take many many months to use cause of a gold shortage and I'm doing everything I can without spending an arm and a leg on Cavalier crystals that mostly net 3* and it is a very slow processing to get enough gold to rank someone!! How long is reasonable to accumulate 1m gold? A month is waaay tooo long and asking people to grind arena 3 hours a day is way to unrealistic as a constant source of gold.
There needs to be a middle ground. Weve seen lots of great suggestions that won't hurt Kabams bottom line or unbalance the game and a mix of some/any of them could easily be added to keep the game fun, allow for rankups and not require total spending on crystals to get dupes just to sell iso.
- more iso for 5 or 6 star dupes - why is it the same for 4,5 and 6 star dupes when the resources needed for higher champ's is so much more?
- more gold rewards for uncollected and cavalier content. They're giving out more cats, we need the gold to use them but it is not nearly enough.
- more gold rewards for Act 5 and 6
- get rid of gold. We already need iso and multiple catalysts types and gold too. Arena is really just a very repetitive and disheartening gold grind unless you want a specific champ, but the botss help ensure many of the champ's are unattainable anyway.
#makemcocgreatagain
Fast forward 3 months or so, after exploring A6 100%, spending all the rank up materials obtained from A6 + regular glory purchases + 780k Gold weekly donations, I’m back at 92m.
Is there a gold problem? Lol
However, F2P, especially newer accounts who have not been around since the beginning don't get all the dupes to sell iso and can't grow gold quick enough to keep up with the cost of 6* and higher level 5* that were getting.
I've got 49 x 5* and 4 x 6*. Only 9 of my 5* are duped but 4 I used AG's on so 5 natural dupes (10% of my roster and a drop in the bucket for the total pool of champ's). 4* shards don't come in as much as they used to as cavalier and 5* dupes are rare for me. Not a big spender so I have to work with what I get.
Max arena gold is 120,000 if you hit all gold milestones in the arenas and that takes a lot of time with people who don't have every champ to throw at it or units to refresh. So let's call it 250k a week if you're doing a lot of arena and hitting all gold milestones twice a week, plus what you get from arena crystals.
It takes about 1.2m to go from R4 to R5 so you're looking at least a month to r4 or R5 one champ and benching everyone else for rankups in the process (new 6* or other potentials to R4 or even start with R1 and bring up). That is not a lot of fun and neither is having to spend to get more crystal dupes just to be able to use the rewards from variant to bring up some champ's that don't need anything other than gold and iso.
Hypocrisy at it's finest. So when you all create the issue it's fine huh?
So much more t5b and t2a (or r3 to r4 gems) is available allowing the most expensive rank ups, demolishes gold reserves for those who have NOT been used to ranking up lots of characters to higher levels almost every month.
Personally, I sell all basic ISO and most ISO below t5, but I've still been getting the 4th milestone (never go beyond it) in level up for the units, for the last year or so. And I vary between 700k and 2.5m depending on how many of the t4b and t1a arenas I run, which until the new Sunday arena was the only ones I run.
I've only run a couple of incursions, run map 4 only, cavalier...
But, I am sitting on 6 rank 2 to 3 5* gems, 3 rank 3 to 4 5* gems and 6 t5b. I don't have the t2a or gold to really use them...
So for general use, without the variants of say even at daily mcoc play, pretty heavily, for a cavalier in an alliance hitting 100m AQ score... There's not enough gold right now, without playing a lot more... But, I need to save t2a from glory for 2 months to rank up 3 more 5* to 5/65 and think I'll just about get there on gold.
But I can really, really see how some people would really be struggling with it.
Don't think kabam can turn the taps on though, as it's not commercially viable.
If newer accounts are flying through content faster than is intended then that's on them really. People playing for 4+ years already before act 6 was even released had a long time building up a roster of particularly 4* champs as that's where the vast majority of your iso will come from. 5* dupes are more of a bonus for most players I would think. With a flushed 4* roster you get plenty of iso even from phcs let alone the actual 4* crystals you get from phcs 3*s.
There is gold and iso in the game. If you're trying to go too far too fast and not doing the available things to get more gold and iso, that's definitely a you thing
I'm pretty sure he spends considerably, but I'd let him answer since you and I can only guess. Most people don't have 90m gold banked away and 1.5m rosters. I'm not jealous of his gold, just tired of those with gold, who spend, saying how easy it is to get gold. Go check out KT1 YouTube and his thoughts on it too with his new baby account.
For newer players, advice is to get your foundations and rosters right first. You’ll be slower to join the “end game” ranks, but what awaits you is a solid fundamental that will aid you in handling the hardest content in the game.