Should people still grind for 5* in Arena?

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  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★
    GOTG said:

    If my information is correct, the first 5* featured hero arena was released in February 15th, 2018.

    Two years, 5 months ago. At that time, we already have 6* champions, and 5* rank 5.

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/49801/introducing-5-star-featured-hero-arenas

    It has done well for the contest, but it's old and we need a new - bigger arena.

    And "Two years, 5 months ago", we had R5 5*s. Do we have R5 6*s? No. Sit down. 💖🧚‍♂️✨
  • AzKicker316AzKicker316 Member Posts: 2,434 ★★★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    There would basically be no difference between featured 5 and a 6 arena if you could just use 5 and 6 champs. The majority of points are from them, not 4*s.
  • BigManOnCampusBigManOnCampus Member Posts: 376 ★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    Still doesn't matter. Only the spenders would benefit from this arena.
    That's your opinion....
  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    Still doesn't matter. Only the spenders would benefit from this arena.
    That's your opinion....
    No, that's facts. Spenders would be the only ones to regularly keep up the grind to get those top places. Realistically speaking, F2P players wouldn't be able to keep up with the grind. Sure, they might save up enough units for one go at the arena, but imagine how many points would be needed for a top spot, and how small the number of places that actually receive the 6* would be.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,978 Guardian
    6* arena would be a whale arena. The rich would only get richer, whats the point?
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    I grind only for the 2000/200 5/6 shards. Never attempted to go for the featured champ. Not sure it is worth it, really.
  • BigManOnCampusBigManOnCampus Member Posts: 376 ★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    There would basically be no difference between featured 5 and a 6 arena if you could just use 5 and 6 champs. The majority of points are from them, not 4*s.
    Yea and? I don't use 4*s when I grind the 5* arena and can still easily put up over 100m...
  • BigManOnCampusBigManOnCampus Member Posts: 376 ★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    Still doesn't matter. Only the spenders would benefit from this arena.
    That's your opinion....
    No, that's facts. Spenders would be the only ones to regularly keep up the grind to get those top places. Realistically speaking, F2P players wouldn't be able to keep up with the grind. Sure, they might save up enough units for one go at the arena, but imagine how many points would be needed for a top spot, and how small the number of places that actually receive the 6* would be.
    It don't matter dude, you can say the same thing about the 5* arena..

  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    Still doesn't matter. Only the spenders would benefit from this arena.
    That's your opinion....
    No, that's facts. Spenders would be the only ones to regularly keep up the grind to get those top places. Realistically speaking, F2P players wouldn't be able to keep up with the grind. Sure, they might save up enough units for one go at the arena, but imagine how many points would be needed for a top spot, and how small the number of places that actually receive the 6* would be.
    It don't matter dude, you can say the same thing about the 5* arena..

    No, because F2P players actually have a chance in the 5* arena, since the top spots are more plentiful than what would be necessary for a 6* arena. Kabam isn't going to give 6*s away for the top 150 spots. It's going to be the top 10-20 spots, realistically speaking. Also, imagine how many points are needed to even reach ranked rewards. There's absolutely no way for a F2P player to consistently be on top in a 6* arena.
  • BigManOnCampusBigManOnCampus Member Posts: 376 ★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    Still doesn't matter. Only the spenders would benefit from this arena.
    That's your opinion....
    No, that's facts. Spenders would be the only ones to regularly keep up the grind to get those top places. Realistically speaking, F2P players wouldn't be able to keep up with the grind. Sure, they might save up enough units for one go at the arena, but imagine how many points would be needed for a top spot, and how small the number of places that actually receive the 6* would be.
    It don't matter dude, you can say the same thing about the 5* arena..

    Kabam isn't going to give 6*s away for the top 150 spots. It's going to be the top 10-20 spots, realistically speaking. Also, imagine how many points are needed to even reach ranked rewards. There's absolutely no way for a F2P player to consistently be on top in a 6* arena.
    HAHA … top 10-20 spots !! they would never make a arena like that....A F2P player can't consistently be on top in a 5* arena .So your point make no sense … Cavaliers don't benefit F2P players does that mean they shouldn't be in the game?
  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    Still doesn't matter. Only the spenders would benefit from this arena.
    That's your opinion....
    No, that's facts. Spenders would be the only ones to regularly keep up the grind to get those top places. Realistically speaking, F2P players wouldn't be able to keep up with the grind. Sure, they might save up enough units for one go at the arena, but imagine how many points would be needed for a top spot, and how small the number of places that actually receive the 6* would be.
    It don't matter dude, you can say the same thing about the 5* arena..

    Kabam isn't going to give 6*s away for the top 150 spots. It's going to be the top 10-20 spots, realistically speaking. Also, imagine how many points are needed to even reach ranked rewards. There's absolutely no way for a F2P player to consistently be on top in a 6* arena.
    HAHA … top 10-20 spots !! they would never make a arena like that....A F2P player can't consistently be on top in a 5* arena .So your point make no sense … Cavaliers don't benefit F2P players does that mean they shouldn't be in the game?
    "HAHA … top 10-20 spots !! they would never make a arena like that"
    That's correct. That's why 6* arenas won't be in the game anytime soon.

    "A F2P player can't consistently be on top in a 5* arena"
    Yet they still can be in the top more consistently than in a 6* arena.

    "Cavaliers don't benefit F2P players does that mean they shouldn't be in the game?"
    ??? What do you mean?
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Funny to see notsavage go off the rails and start arguing from his imagination.
  • BigManOnCampusBigManOnCampus Member Posts: 376 ★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    Still doesn't matter. Only the spenders would benefit from this arena.
    That's your opinion....
    No, that's facts. Spenders would be the only ones to regularly keep up the grind to get those top places. Realistically speaking, F2P players wouldn't be able to keep up with the grind. Sure, they might save up enough units for one go at the arena, but imagine how many points would be needed for a top spot, and how small the number of places that actually receive the 6* would be.
    It don't matter dude, you can say the same thing about the 5* arena..

    Kabam isn't going to give 6*s away for the top 150 spots. It's going to be the top 10-20 spots, realistically speaking. Also, imagine how many points are needed to even reach ranked rewards. There's absolutely no way for a F2P player to consistently be on top in a 6* arena.
    HAHA … top 10-20 spots !! they would never make a arena like that....A F2P player can't consistently be on top in a 5* arena .So your point make no sense … Cavaliers don't benefit F2P players does that mean they shouldn't be in the game?
    "HAHA … top 10-20 spots !! they would never make a arena like that"
    That's correct. That's why 6* arenas won't be in the game anytime soon.

    "A F2P player can't consistently be on top in a 5* arena"
    Yet they still can be in the top more consistently than in a 6* arena.

    "Cavaliers don't benefit F2P players does that mean they shouldn't be in the game?"
    ??? What do you mean?
    My man I'm done talking with you, you don't even grind arena with a win streak of 115..Your argument is moot!
  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★

    Funny to see notsavage go off the rails and start arguing from his imagination.

    Explain.
  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    Still doesn't matter. Only the spenders would benefit from this arena.
    That's your opinion....
    No, that's facts. Spenders would be the only ones to regularly keep up the grind to get those top places. Realistically speaking, F2P players wouldn't be able to keep up with the grind. Sure, they might save up enough units for one go at the arena, but imagine how many points would be needed for a top spot, and how small the number of places that actually receive the 6* would be.
    It don't matter dude, you can say the same thing about the 5* arena..

    Kabam isn't going to give 6*s away for the top 150 spots. It's going to be the top 10-20 spots, realistically speaking. Also, imagine how many points are needed to even reach ranked rewards. There's absolutely no way for a F2P player to consistently be on top in a 6* arena.
    HAHA … top 10-20 spots !! they would never make a arena like that....A F2P player can't consistently be on top in a 5* arena .So your point make no sense … Cavaliers don't benefit F2P players does that mean they shouldn't be in the game?
    "HAHA … top 10-20 spots !! they would never make a arena like that"
    That's correct. That's why 6* arenas won't be in the game anytime soon.

    "A F2P player can't consistently be on top in a 5* arena"
    Yet they still can be in the top more consistently than in a 6* arena.

    "Cavaliers don't benefit F2P players does that mean they shouldn't be in the game?"
    ??? What do you mean?
    My man I'm done talking with you, you don't even grind arena with a win streak of 115..Your argument is moot!
    I don't see the appeal of grinding for a 5* champion. That's it. That doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about, though.
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,978 Guardian

    6* arena is pointless at this time. You would only be able to use 6*s for that arena if following the same structure as the other arenas. That's not happening, no matter how hard you close your eyes and clinch your azz wishing for it!

    If that was the case we wouldn't be able to use 4*s in a 5* featured..
    Still doesn't matter. Only the spenders would benefit from this arena.
    That's your opinion....
    No, that's facts. Spenders would be the only ones to regularly keep up the grind to get those top places. Realistically speaking, F2P players wouldn't be able to keep up with the grind. Sure, they might save up enough units for one go at the arena, but imagine how many points would be needed for a top spot, and how small the number of places that actually receive the 6* would be.
    It don't matter dude, you can say the same thing about the 5* arena..

    Kabam isn't going to give 6*s away for the top 150 spots. It's going to be the top 10-20 spots, realistically speaking. Also, imagine how many points are needed to even reach ranked rewards. There's absolutely no way for a F2P player to consistently be on top in a 6* arena.
    HAHA … top 10-20 spots !! they would never make a arena like that....A F2P player can't consistently be on top in a 5* arena .So your point make no sense … Cavaliers don't benefit F2P players does that mean they shouldn't be in the game?
    "HAHA … top 10-20 spots !! they would never make a arena like that"
    That's correct. That's why 6* arenas won't be in the game anytime soon.

    "A F2P player can't consistently be on top in a 5* arena"
    Yet they still can be in the top more consistently than in a 6* arena.

    "Cavaliers don't benefit F2P players does that mean they shouldn't be in the game?"
    ??? What do you mean?
    My man I'm done talking with you, you don't even grind arena with a win streak of 115..Your argument is moot!
    Unfortunately he is right, and you aren't.... I grind arena. This much whalers so much richer, as their dollar earned 6* will make it so much easier to reach top ranks.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★

    Funny to see notsavage go off the rails and start arguing from his imagination.

    Explain.
    Your arguments are supposition and culminated in concluding that the arena would only award 10-20 champions, historically nothing suggests any of what you are saying is true.

    Also, It’s possible that Kabam could significantly reduce the points awarded for 6*s which would help even out the playing field.

    I could, on occasion, compete in such an arena without spending money; as well as many others


    Anyways we likely won’t see a 6* arena for quite some time, if at all, as most of the firepower is concentrated near the top where the revenue, for new champion releases, is already generated by cav sales so making it cheaper to obtain and awaken new 6* could see a drop.

    To me it’s fairly evident Kabam is leveraging New 6* acquisition. 6s do not follow the same release cadence as any other rarity; they can enter the basic pool significantly later. The odds of obtaining (and awakening) them from featured crystals are super low; considering the rate at which we earn shards and the limited time availability. And additionally the roadmap where 6s are excluded from planned new crystal features.
  • Notsavage19Notsavage19 Member Posts: 2,817 ★★★★★

    Funny to see notsavage go off the rails and start arguing from his imagination.

    Explain.
    Your arguments are supposition and culminated in concluding that the arena would only award 10-20 champions, historically nothing suggests any of what you are saying is true.

    Also, It’s possible that Kabam could significantly reduce the points awarded for 6*s which would help even out the playing field.

    I could, on occasion, compete in such an arena without spending money; as well as many others


    Anyways we likely won’t see a 6* arena for quite some time, if at all, as most of the firepower is concentrated near the top where the revenue, for new champion releases, is already generated by cav sales so making it cheaper to obtain and awaken new 6* could see a drop.

    To me it’s fairly evident Kabam is leveraging New 6* acquisition. 6s do not follow the same release cadence as any other rarity; they can enter the basic pool significantly later. The odds of obtaining (and awakening) them from featured crystals are super low; considering the rate at which we earn shards and the limited time availability. And additionally the roadmap where 6s are excluded from planned new crystal features.
    I used the "10-20" range because of the value of 6*s in the game right now. It was a prediction based on my observations. Sure it could be right or wrong, but Kabam won't just give away 6*s. Of course, they're going to make it extremely difficult to receive a 6* from an arena.

    "Also, It’s possible that Kabam could significantly reduce the points awarded for 6*s which would help even out the playing field."
    That would hurt the players who decided to focus more on 6*s and 5*s. People leveled up 6*s in the hope that they would get more points in arena than their 5* counterparts. By lowering the points awarded, the 6* rank-ups would be useless in arena unless the refresh cost was lowered as well.

    Point is a 6* arena won't benefit F2P to the same extent that the 5* featured benefits the F2P.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    Funny to see notsavage go off the rails and start arguing from his imagination.

    Explain.


    Anyways we likely won’t see a 6* arena for quite some time, if at all, as most of the firepower is concentrated near the top where the revenue, for new champion releases, is already generated by cav sales so making it cheaper to obtain and awaken new 6* could see a drop.

    To me it’s fairly evident Kabam is leveraging New 6* acquisition. 6s do not follow the same release cadence as any other rarity; they can enter the basic pool significantly later. The odds of obtaining (and awakening) them from featured crystals are super low; considering the rate at which we earn shards and the limited time availability. And additionally the roadmap where 6s are excluded from planned new crystal features.
    And this is pretty much just what I said I'd hope they do in the feedback thread. Start making targeting 5*s easier and just leave 6*s as they are for now for the most part. They're still technically not even needed for anything in the game outside the prestige race.

    You have people with 5-10 R5s saying they're done with 5*s since they're not relevant anymore which is just insane to me. I still rank 5*s regularly and prefer to get most any champ that relies on sig ability as a 5* as opposed to 6*.

    In regards to this thread though, you're far from an average player when it comes to arena either. I still don't think a 6* arena benefits anyone but the hardest grinders and even more so, those who've already paid their way into giant 6* rosters.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Is anyone who competes for featured champions an average grinder/player? They’re the 1%.

    Enjoy baying at the moon. It‘s fun to read what is inside y’all’s imagination and watch people nip at each other’s thoughts.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    Is anyone who competes for featured champions an average grinder/player? They’re the 1%.

    Enjoy baying at the moon. It‘s fun to read what is inside y’all’s imagination and watch people nip at each other’s thoughts.

    I grind for the occasional champ. I'm so far away from an "arena grinder" it's not even funny
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Think the most I've done is around 70M once or twice in 500 or so rounds.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★

    Is anyone who competes for featured champions an average grinder/player? They’re the 1%.

    Enjoy baying at the moon. It‘s fun to read what is inside y’all’s imagination and watch people nip at each other’s thoughts.

    I grind for the occasional champ. I'm so far away from an "arena grinder" it's not even funny
    Baying at the moon, that point is intended to contradict what exactly?
    Are you trying to say you’re an average player? Just your average #2 in gifting, .1% in AQ/AW player with a deep 6* roster?
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    Is anyone who competes for featured champions an average grinder/player? They’re the 1%.

    Enjoy baying at the moon. It‘s fun to read what is inside y’all’s imagination and watch people nip at each other’s thoughts.

    I grind for the occasional champ. I'm so far away from an "arena grinder" it's not even funny
    Baying at the moon, that point is intended to contradict what exactly?
    Are you trying to say you’re an average player? Just your average #2 in gifting, .1% in AQ/AW player with a deep 6* roster?
    When have I ever said I was "average"? There are plenty that are that think they'd be competing for a 6* if there was an arena though.

    You saying that you could doesn't really mean much when you're creeping up on 1M pvp fights. If you think the same people hitting top 150 in the current arena would be the majority of the ones placing in a 6* arena, fair enough. I don't think there's a slight chance that happens personally bc we both know exactly what a huge portion of the top of the top are gonna do, hire arena mercs. It won't even be close.

  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    edited July 2020
    “When have I ever said I was "average"?”

    When someone asks is anyone who grinds for a feature is an average player/grinder and the response is that you fall into that category, that to me is you asserting you fit into that average category (which you do not).

    You have a lot of experience with arena mercs? My only experience has been second hand where they get their clients banned.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    “When have I ever said I was "average"?”

    When someone asks is anyone who grinds for a feature is an average player/grinder and the response is that you fall into that category, that to me is you asserting you fit into that average category (which you do not).

    You have a lot of experience with arena mercs? My only experience has been second hand where they get their clients banned.

    Personally? No, none, but I'd be lying if I said I don't know plenty of people that do.
  • lowlevelplayerlowlevelplayer Member Posts: 4,292 ★★★★★

    “When have I ever said I was "average"?”

    When someone asks is anyone who grinds for a feature is an average player/grinder and the response is that you fall into that category, that to me is you asserting you fit into that average category (which you do not).

    You have a lot of experience with arena mercs? My only experience has been second hand where they get their clients banned.

    Personally? No, none, but I'd be lying if I said I don't know plenty of people that do.
    care to expose anyone?
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★

    “When have I ever said I was "average"?”

    When someone asks is anyone who grinds for a feature is an average player/grinder and the response is that you fall into that category, that to me is you asserting you fit into that average category (which you do not).

    You have a lot of experience with arena mercs? My only experience has been second hand where they get their clients banned.

    Personally? No, none, but I'd be lying if I said I don't know plenty of people that do.
    The only one’s I’ve known end up with a ban which removes them from the equation.

    What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    edited July 2020

    “When have I ever said I was "average"?”

    When someone asks is anyone who grinds for a feature is an average player/grinder and the response is that you fall into that category, that to me is you asserting you fit into that average category (which you do not).

    You have a lot of experience with arena mercs? My only experience has been second hand where they get their clients banned.

    Personally? No, none, but I'd be lying if I said I don't know plenty of people that do.
    care to expose anyone?
    Not my place at all, and also against forum rules regardless
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