Matchmaking Discussion [Merged Threads]

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We have jumped from t11 to t8 in two wars, because the alliances who we faced (who were higher ranked and higher rated last season, than us) couldn’t clear half our defense. The levelling is happening reasonably quickly, the hiccups in this levelling system will be the ones who do catch similar strength alliances when their war rating is still out of whack from the previous system.

Skitard

That's apples and oranges guy... don't bring your ignorance into the debate... bring logic instead...

GroundedWisdom

No. You implied my comment was that people weren't skilled, and they bought their Rosters. I said no such thing.

CoatHang3r

Surprised ya’ll are still wasting time arguing against these nonstop nonsensical points.

Arenas award players based on how many points they put up relative to other players, Not your record or anything else. They do not award weaker players by giving them more points for using lesser rated teams than they do for stronger players using stronger teams.

There is no point in arguing with this guy when his unyielding belief is that players should be rewarded based on record rather than ability (something people routinely mislabel as skill).

CaptainGame

That was logic. And a perfect comparison. Sorry you can’t understand it. It’s meant for the others to have a laugh.

CaptainGame

Well then how did they get their rosters. You said it wasn’t skill because they are beneath you. So which is it?

GroundedWisdom

You're just putting words in my mouth. Seriously.

CaptainGame

Hmm. Sounds familiar doesn’t it... 🤔. Hi kettle! I’m pot! 🙂

GroundedWisdom

You're misrepresenting my comments.

CaptainGame

Yes. I remember you misrepresenting most people in the game. But you do you

QuikPik

Mic drop.....

GroundedWisdom

If you want to call twisting my words to be needlessly argumentative a mic drop, by all means. Encourage him.

CaptainGame

He’s in support of me twisting your words because they were twisted versions of everybody else’s words that you made up in your efforts to troll.

Also hi kettle! 🙂

Speeds80

@Skitard i was uncollected before I had an r4 5* (not even sure I had an r3) and was never a spender, I beat the collector On all paths with a 4* night crawler that I ran 4* arena for. I’ve spent maybe $100 total in 5 years in the game. You kept saying we have less skill than you. We just didn’t have an even playing field. You were advantaged in the old broken system, now we do

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CaptainGame

Playing a game more to grow and get better?! Stop that!! Lol

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Speeds80

I also beat rol with 4/40s and zero revives and lol with 4/55 trinity. but please keep telling me how I deserve to be in silver 1 because my skills are worse than yours

Skitard

I never said you had less skill than me... less comprehension ABSOLUTELY... but not less skill...

I'm stating that when placed in an even playing field winners should benefit more and losers should benefit less... you keep saying I'm comparing my skill to yours... and i haven't once done that... I'm saying that my alliance beating an enemy alliance of the same strength should reward us the same as your alliance beating an equal strength alliance...

You guys keep disagreeing with my posts because it means if you can't beat an alliance on your level you feel I'm saying you should get smaller rewards than my alliance if we beat an alliance on our level...

At no point have I said that at all...

I'm saying winners in lower rated alliances should receive rewards that are a fraction of the same level of a higher tier bracket...

Not that strong alliances losers should receive ridiculously low rewards... they should still surpass the lower tier rewards... as in all of those high tier alliances should receive 6 star shards... and stuff..

But so should the strongest of the weaker alliances... not as many... but some...

I really wish you guys could understand what I'm saying... i feel like my 4 year old son would understand the simplicity of what I'm saying better than the majority of you have...

GroundedWisdom

Is it really? Why was the Matchmaking changed and not the Rewards then?

Skitard

Did it sink in that time?

Skitard

lol... i still got a disagree when I stated that the higher rated alliances do deserve better rewards than the weak alliances... but that the lower rated alliances shouldn't be shafted... which only goes to show how stupid people are... i assume they realize that if the lower alliances are able to receive rewards that aren't as crappy then they would have the chance to build up and stomp the weak alliance that was recently stronger than they were... typical...

Speeds80

@skitard yes these few wars are ugly now. I’m not sure you comprehend what the big picture is, soon you will be faced with similar strength alliances, the ability to go on 20/30 win streaks will be limited by your defensive roster and the unorganised and weaker alliances you were steamrolling over and over again won’t be your matchups because they don’t deserve to be on your level, until they organise and grow. Big picture is good for fairness, small picture yeah it’s bad because of how broken the war ratings have become from previous system, but saying we were less skilful when we couldn’t climb out of a tier by winning 7 or 8/12 in the season shows that you think winning over and over again over the same bad alliances should be the norm and never have been taken away from you, my alliance isn’t less skilled than yours, we were the victims of a broken system that has been dumped. So we are happy that we can return to the system we knew and flourished in and were fairly rewarded for (For our efforts) before that travesty was brought in. I dont feel too bad for the alliances I just steam
Rolled because for 9 seasons they Literally displaced me for their rewards while never having to face my alliance because they were protected By their low prestige. A very strange factor to reward

Pulyaman

Oh, I have no issue with the system itself. I agree that the earlier system was broken and it was being unfair to some alliances. It needed to change. What I don't agree was the way kabam went about it and the way alliances that were supposedly screwed simply telling to wait for it to settle down. And I don't think feel down anyone knew they did not deserve the rewards they were getting. They won the war and saw the prizes go up. I don't think majority of the people had any idea about the other higher prestige alliances getting screwed. Some did and they messed with the system, but I believe a majority of them did not and thst is why you see so much complaining about unfair match ups.

Also, many people have raised that they were stuck in g2 or g2 while alliances lower than them were placed in p4 and p3. If you look at the excel shared, most of the discrepancy seems to be in gold tier and very little are in the plat and master tiers. That is why I think the shakeup could be focused on the bottom tiers than the top ones. I could be wrong and I look forward for @QuikPik to analyse and tell me hopefully.

P.S This system works wonders for me so it is not for me that I am speaking. We crushed our opponents as they could not clear the map

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Speeds80

Kabam listened to the complaints of people. Everyone kept saying they wanted Matchmaking fixed. The issue wasn't the Matchmaking, it was the Rewards structure. It had part to do with the Rewards, but the real argument was that bigger Alliances didn't get a chance to overpower the smaller ones. "They would never win against us!"

An argument somewhat validated by the fact those smaller alliances were displacing them
For rewards. Whilst never having to face them. It’s not rocket science, it’s simple
Boring tournament style competition on an even playing field we have ended up with. A tiered system might work but it seems to open up more exploits than it fixes, as apart from this shambles of a season, as you’ve Already agreed, this system won’t be as exploitable in the long term