the difference in difficulty at the top is crazy. At tier 5 and above is when you get all sorts of BS fights with the interaction of the global along with the nodes on the map that you really need to have a wide roster and be willing to use lots of items to boost and heal up between each fight.
If you guys are happy to do that then join an alliance capable of pushing.
AW tier 6 and below is super chilled and can be done with very limited items and skill just need to strategize on the best champions to bring to clear path.
If you are spending 4-5k Glory and units at silver 1 then you are clearly not good enough to be getting 6* shards. at tier 6 ( Gold 1 level) i spend 0 items while clearing on average 8-10 fights a map with mini bosses and boss included. At Tier 5 and above i have to use some items because you face harder champions, nodes and global.
The harsh reality is if you want better rewards you need to be capable of clearing harder AW maps then the ones you currently are clearing.
No, no and no. What are you talking about?
he is talking about the victory rewards for each war.
Ever heard of sarcasm?
Nothing in your post indicated you were being sarcastic.
the difference in difficulty at the top is crazy. At tier 5 and above is when you get all sorts of BS fights with the interaction of the global along with the nodes on the map that you really need to have a wide roster and be willing to use lots of items to boost and heal up between each fight.
If you guys are happy to do that then join an alliance capable of pushing.
AW tier 6 and below is super chilled and can be done with very limited items and skill just need to strategize on the best champions to bring to clear path.
If you are spending 4-5k Glory and units at silver 1 then you are clearly not good enough to be getting 6* shards. at tier 6 ( Gold 1 level) i spend 0 items while clearing on average 8-10 fights a map with mini bosses and boss included. At Tier 5 and above i have to use some items because you face harder champions, nodes and global.
The harsh reality is if you want better rewards you need to be capable of clearing harder AW maps then the ones you currently are clearing.
No, no and no. What are you talking about?
Lol to summarize for you, basically "Git Gud!"
your whole argument in this thread is based on the fact you are spending Glory and units to do AW and you find that its not worth the effort. Well stop spending those resources. You can use the glory instead on rank up materials.
If you want 6* shards then join an alliance that can push gold 2 or above.
AW is competitive game mode where resources you gain are based on how you do compared to others. This isn't if you do x amount of wars you get x rewards. That's what the monthly content is for.
Gold 1 gets a full 5*, Every single tier of gold gets more than half a 5*
Half a 5-Star. Do you really think we want to do 12 wars for just 'More than a 5-Star'? UCEQ offers more than that.
You are still not getting it. No gold rank offers half a 5*, they all offer more than half, 2 of the 3 significantly more. If you do not actually know what the rewards are you probably should not be making poorly made arguments.
I’d still have the same point and argument if it was a SINGLE full 5 star
Interesting, cause gold 1 gets a full 5* and a quarter of a 6*. G2 gets nearly a full 5* and 1000 6* shards. 6* shards are vastly more valuable than 5* shards, and gold war is significantly easier than uncollected EQ.
You can do minthly EQ in a few hours. This is months long content
Wars take a few minutes every 2 days, it is not like you are having to play constantly for hours every day for a month.
A few minutes every 2 days? Really? That's like saying Map 7 takes a few minutes every 24 hours...
yes, really. Even if you clear every mob on your path the max you can get is 12, with the vast majority of fights being under 3 minutes in length. On average players will actually have 5 or 6 fights per war, meaning less than 20 minutes per war. Multiply that by 12 and you get 240m, or 4 hours, maybe slightly longer than a good player can do uceq, but you dont have to be that good for gold wars.
In addition every win you get nets you smaller doses of shards as well, increasing the amount of shards you get for the season.
Your leaving out the part where u don’t have ya best 8 champs for 24 hours and placement but that won’t fit your narrative so...
that is probably because I dont have my best 8 champs locked out for 24 hours..... The only thing I lose that I would use in other content is my 2099, which I have other techs that can do almost as good.
We are talking about rewards for advanced players, not newbs right?
I’m not advanced or newb. I play 3-5 hours a day. I’ve explored all variant and still working on exploring act 6 and there’s no many neesh encounters in act 6 it sucks not having my full roster available to me when the situation call for it all so in 48 hours I can get 160 red 200 orange and in a month less than half a 5 star and some t4basic. I ENJOY the members in my alliance. We all have kids and lives outside the game but still make time to ACTUALLY do the wars.. when they recently changed the war matchup system, we were blowing people out the first 6 wars bc the matchup system kept our alliance down for so long. I’m hoping it’ll level itself out and it’s starting to get better but we doing 2.8x (not sure the tier) and 3x point multiplier wars and it feels like it’s all for BS when our time can be spent better elsewhere but we all like playing TOGETHER
the difference in difficulty at the top is crazy. At tier 5 and above is when you get all sorts of BS fights with the interaction of the global along with the nodes on the map that you really need to have a wide roster and be willing to use lots of items to boost and heal up between each fight.
If you guys are happy to do that then join an alliance capable of pushing.
AW tier 6 and below is super chilled and can be done with very limited items and skill just need to strategize on the best champions to bring to clear path.
If you are spending 4-5k Glory and units at silver 1 then you are clearly not good enough to be getting 6* shards. at tier 6 ( Gold 1 level) i spend 0 items while clearing on average 8-10 fights a map with mini bosses and boss included. At Tier 5 and above i have to use some items because you face harder champions, nodes and global.
The harsh reality is if you want better rewards you need to be capable of clearing harder AW maps then the ones you currently are clearing.
No, no and no. What are you talking about?
Just bc I’m not happy with the rewards doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy the wars themselves and the concept of playing competitively vs other alliances and we lost most wars bc of either defender diversity or by 1-5 kills when both teams will explore the map 100%. And I feel me being looked down upon bc they don’t properly explain the scoring system and what means more in terms of points and what is essentially irrelevant is ridiculous. Kabam hasn’t made a “war scoring” chart for us to game plan around or anything. It’s do your best and maybe it’ll be enough and maybe it won’t... just bc I HATE the system doesn’t mean I don’t like the actual gameplay and concept of the gameplay itself
I feel since the top of the game was willing to try and orchestrate a boycott Kabam made the rewards so juicy for them while leaving the rest of the pee ons with less that a 5 star crystal no t5b amount no 6 star shards for playing this game religiously for a whole months worth of content to get garbage compared to today’s meta.. t4b is like candy nowadays. It’s just not worth it imo and I run 2 war profiles all month for “ not worth it rewards”
lol, what boycott? A few self-serving chancers came up with half-assed and contradictory complaints not even asking for any proper change, at a time when there was no content they would be spending money on anyway, and decided before the 4th of July offers that their demands had been met even though no-one knew what the demands were. It was all a huge farce. That alliance is also nowhere near getting top rewards so they barely benefit from the buff too.
But just the notion of it scared (for lack of better term) kabam into boosting the rewards at the top while not scaling them down to the lower tiers.. the lower tiers with the “war rewards buff” were essentially unchanged. I think silver 1 got an additional half of a t2a and thats IT. While they gave guys at the top to appease them 2 extra 6 stars a FEW extra 5s additional FULL t5bs t5cc frag crystals and loads of other stuff.... Lagacy made a video all excited ab the “reward buff” then made a vid right after apologizing bc he didn’t realize how the lower tiers were basically IGNORED like we don’t matter bc we can’t BLUFF or way into scaring kabam with boycotts that would make them feel like giving us a CHANCE to EARN better rewards. Meanwhile the top of the game gets further and further and further out of reach from the rest of us and we all supposed to just be happy with that and ignore it? Sorry I’m going to say my peace if I feel my time in this game isn’t appreciated when I could easily go somewhere else. And I’m not saying I want to go play something else I just don’t feel they appreciate the rest of the community that makes them one of the top games in all versions of “app stores”
Just FYI. My base hero rating is above 1M on my main and almost to 900k on my 2nd. I’m not top of game but I’m not scrub either. For whoever asked that question
Plus wether you agree with my option or disagree, I started a conversation within the community that has over 1,000 views and an 70 diff people giving thier opinions on the issue... I did what I set out to do with the poll, which is start a conversation with multiple viewpoints
I agree, war rewards should be buffed for the lower half as well, its only fair. Why target only the community that spends items /play super competitive? Our ally lost motivation to stay Gold 1
Ima step out on a ledge and say most people don’t spend all day on the forums, they actually go PLAY THE GAME.. how the numbers work on the forums is the same way scoring works in AW.... known to some and not to all bc it’s NOT STATED anywhere.
the difference in difficulty at the top is crazy. At tier 5 and above is when you get all sorts of BS fights with the interaction of the global along with the nodes on the map that you really need to have a wide roster and be willing to use lots of items to boost and heal up between each fight.
If you guys are happy to do that then join an alliance capable of pushing.
AW tier 6 and below is super chilled and can be done with very limited items and skill just need to strategize on the best champions to bring to clear path.
If you are spending 4-5k Glory and units at silver 1 then you are clearly not good enough to be getting 6* shards. at tier 6 ( Gold 1 level) i spend 0 items while clearing on average 8-10 fights a map with mini bosses and boss included. At Tier 5 and above i have to use some items because you face harder champions, nodes and global.
The harsh reality is if you want better rewards you need to be capable of clearing harder AW maps then the ones you currently are clearing.
No, no and no. What are you talking about?
Lol to summarize for you, basically "Git Gud!"
your whole argument in this thread is based on the fact you are spending Glory and units to do AW and you find that its not worth the effort. Well stop spending those resources. You can use the glory instead on rank up materials.
If you want 6* shards then join an alliance that can push gold 2 or above.
AW is competitive game mode where resources you gain are based on how you do compared to others. This isn't if you do x amount of wars you get x rewards. That's what the monthly content is for.
I'm not asking for 6-Star shards. I'm also aware that I can move to a G2 ally. I'm just asking for lower toer rewards not to be steaming hot garbage.
That’s exactly what I meant by saying they didn’t scale the rewards to the lower tiers when they buffed the whales.... I don’t expect 4-5 6 stars at the end of the season but if you drop that by 50% per tier working ya way down, silver should get at least 1000 6 star shards or a fully formed 5 star.. silver 1 today I got what... 3500 5 star shards for a season of wars where my alliance finished 7-2 in the 9 wars
But just the notion of it scared (for lack of better term) kabam into boosting the rewards at the top while not scaling them down to the lower tiers
It amuses me to think there's anyone anywhere that thinks the "boycott" did anything. There aren't enough quote marks in existence to wrap that word in the number it deserves.
Most of those comments are from the same people, including you me and a few others, that is not 70 differnt people. Also it is not over 1000 views
Up to 80 comments so thanks for the interactions shown on page....4 that most people will never see, just helps keep it on the first page of “General Discussion” tab.
But just the notion of it scared (for lack of better term) kabam into boosting the rewards at the top while not scaling them down to the lower tiers
It amuses me to think there's anyone anywhere that thinks the "boycott" did anything. There aren't enough quote marks in existence to wrap that word in the number it deserves.
I’m not saying it in itself did anything to the game itself. I’m saying the CONVERSATION started by Seatins “quitting my alliance” video made kabam start thinning ab how to keep y’all happy before something ACTUALLY did take place.
the difference in difficulty at the top is crazy. At tier 5 and above is when you get all sorts of BS fights with the interaction of the global along with the nodes on the map that you really need to have a wide roster and be willing to use lots of items to boost and heal up between each fight.
If you guys are happy to do that then join an alliance capable of pushing.
AW tier 6 and below is super chilled and can be done with very limited items and skill just need to strategize on the best champions to bring to clear path.
If you are spending 4-5k Glory and units at silver 1 then you are clearly not good enough to be getting 6* shards. at tier 6 ( Gold 1 level) i spend 0 items while clearing on average 8-10 fights a map with mini bosses and boss included. At Tier 5 and above i have to use some items because you face harder champions, nodes and global.
The harsh reality is if you want better rewards you need to be capable of clearing harder AW maps then the ones you currently are clearing.
No, no and no. What are you talking about?
Lol to summarize for you, basically "Git Gud!"
your whole argument in this thread is based on the fact you are spending Glory and units to do AW and you find that its not worth the effort. Well stop spending those resources. You can use the glory instead on rank up materials.
If you want 6* shards then join an alliance that can push gold 2 or above.
AW is competitive game mode where resources you gain are based on how you do compared to others. This isn't if you do x amount of wars you get x rewards. That's what the monthly content is for.
I'm not asking for 6-Star shards. I'm also aware that I can move to a G2 ally. I'm just asking for lower toer rewards not to be steaming hot garbage.
That’s exactly what I meant by saying they didn’t scale the rewards to the lower tiers when they buffed the whales.... I don’t expect 4-5 6 stars at the end of the season but if you drop that by 50% per tier working ya way down, silver should get at least 1000 6 star shards or a fully formed 5 star.. silver 1 today I got what... 3500 5 star shards for a season of wars where my alliance finished 7-2 in the 9 wars
silver 1 and you expect 6* shards and a fully formed 5*? yea, not for a long time. We have been talking about gold, now you throwing out silver, that is not even considered anywhere near competitive, you can fall and make silver.
I can't speak for anyone else here, but I still need to finish up exploring act 6, and finally have an abyss team assembled (void and not torch, oh well). There's plenty of other things in the game to keep me focused that I have zero interest in doing the AW grind.
Tying my champs in AW has to be weighed against my ability to use those same champs to clear content. And on top of that, you have the stress of trying hard not to die in wars, and the frustration of others dying in wars.
So no thanks, I'll stick to wrapping up what I have left in story and then I'll give competitive AW a thought.
And for those who are going disagree, have at it, it never really bothers me. But you cannot deny that AW is a cost/reward formula, and for me the cost outweighs the rewards right now.
My thought process is starting to follow your outlook on it but I do like the concept of it. I just want it to be worth the cost analysis of what I could be doing instead
the difference in difficulty at the top is crazy. At tier 5 and above is when you get all sorts of BS fights with the interaction of the global along with the nodes on the map that you really need to have a wide roster and be willing to use lots of items to boost and heal up between each fight.
If you guys are happy to do that then join an alliance capable of pushing.
AW tier 6 and below is super chilled and can be done with very limited items and skill just need to strategize on the best champions to bring to clear path.
If you are spending 4-5k Glory and units at silver 1 then you are clearly not good enough to be getting 6* shards. at tier 6 ( Gold 1 level) i spend 0 items while clearing on average 8-10 fights a map with mini bosses and boss included. At Tier 5 and above i have to use some items because you face harder champions, nodes and global.
The harsh reality is if you want better rewards you need to be capable of clearing harder AW maps then the ones you currently are clearing.
No, no and no. What are you talking about?
Lol to summarize for you, basically "Git Gud!"
your whole argument in this thread is based on the fact you are spending Glory and units to do AW and you find that its not worth the effort. Well stop spending those resources. You can use the glory instead on rank up materials.
If you want 6* shards then join an alliance that can push gold 2 or above.
AW is competitive game mode where resources you gain are based on how you do compared to others. This isn't if you do x amount of wars you get x rewards. That's what the monthly content is for.
I'm not asking for 6-Star shards. I'm also aware that I can move to a G2 ally. I'm just asking for lower toer rewards not to be steaming hot garbage.
That’s exactly what I meant by saying they didn’t scale the rewards to the lower tiers when they buffed the whales.... I don’t expect 4-5 6 stars at the end of the season but if you drop that by 50% per tier working ya way down, silver should get at least 1000 6 star shards or a fully formed 5 star.. silver 1 today I got what... 3500 5 star shards for a season of wars where my alliance finished 7-2 in the 9 wars
silver 1 and you expect 6* shards and a fully formed 5*? yea, not for a long time. We have been talking about gold, now you throwing out silver, that is not even considered anywhere near competitive, you can fall and make silver.
S1 give 3.5k, G3 gives 6k. The scaling and amount of shards is awful.
That is a much smaller gap then every other change in major tiers. The scaling is fine, especially since there is no way a silver player should need to spend anything.
the difference in difficulty at the top is crazy. At tier 5 and above is when you get all sorts of BS fights with the interaction of the global along with the nodes on the map that you really need to have a wide roster and be willing to use lots of items to boost and heal up between each fight.
If you guys are happy to do that then join an alliance capable of pushing.
AW tier 6 and below is super chilled and can be done with very limited items and skill just need to strategize on the best champions to bring to clear path.
If you are spending 4-5k Glory and units at silver 1 then you are clearly not good enough to be getting 6* shards. at tier 6 ( Gold 1 level) i spend 0 items while clearing on average 8-10 fights a map with mini bosses and boss included. At Tier 5 and above i have to use some items because you face harder champions, nodes and global.
The harsh reality is if you want better rewards you need to be capable of clearing harder AW maps then the ones you currently are clearing.
No, no and no. What are you talking about?
Lol to summarize for you, basically "Git Gud!"
your whole argument in this thread is based on the fact you are spending Glory and units to do AW and you find that its not worth the effort. Well stop spending those resources. You can use the glory instead on rank up materials.
If you want 6* shards then join an alliance that can push gold 2 or above.
AW is competitive game mode where resources you gain are based on how you do compared to others. This isn't if you do x amount of wars you get x rewards. That's what the monthly content is for.
I'm not asking for 6-Star shards. I'm also aware that I can move to a G2 ally. I'm just asking for lower toer rewards not to be steaming hot garbage.
That’s exactly what I meant by saying they didn’t scale the rewards to the lower tiers when they buffed the whales.... I don’t expect 4-5 6 stars at the end of the season but if you drop that by 50% per tier working ya way down, silver should get at least 1000 6 star shards or a fully formed 5 star.. silver 1 today I got what... 3500 5 star shards for a season of wars where my alliance finished 7-2 in the 9 wars
silver 1 and you expect 6* shards and a fully formed 5*? yea, not for a long time. We have been talking about gold, now you throwing out silver, that is not even considered anywhere near competitive, you can fall and make silver.
We finished the season 7-2. We won 7 of our 9 wars and still got less that 1/3 of a 5 star... honestly DONT care if there’s 6 star shards associated with it I just want to feel like the month long commitment a season takes FEELS worth the effort. And it doesn’t esp of you compare what the top 6? Tiers get and try scaling down to where you are and there’s ABSOLUTELY no comparison
the difference in difficulty at the top is crazy. At tier 5 and above is when you get all sorts of BS fights with the interaction of the global along with the nodes on the map that you really need to have a wide roster and be willing to use lots of items to boost and heal up between each fight.
If you guys are happy to do that then join an alliance capable of pushing.
AW tier 6 and below is super chilled and can be done with very limited items and skill just need to strategize on the best champions to bring to clear path.
If you are spending 4-5k Glory and units at silver 1 then you are clearly not good enough to be getting 6* shards. at tier 6 ( Gold 1 level) i spend 0 items while clearing on average 8-10 fights a map with mini bosses and boss included. At Tier 5 and above i have to use some items because you face harder champions, nodes and global.
The harsh reality is if you want better rewards you need to be capable of clearing harder AW maps then the ones you currently are clearing.
No, no and no. What are you talking about?
Lol to summarize for you, basically "Git Gud!"
your whole argument in this thread is based on the fact you are spending Glory and units to do AW and you find that its not worth the effort. Well stop spending those resources. You can use the glory instead on rank up materials.
If you want 6* shards then join an alliance that can push gold 2 or above.
AW is competitive game mode where resources you gain are based on how you do compared to others. This isn't if you do x amount of wars you get x rewards. That's what the monthly content is for.
I'm not asking for 6-Star shards. I'm also aware that I can move to a G2 ally. I'm just asking for lower toer rewards not to be steaming hot garbage.
That’s exactly what I meant by saying they didn’t scale the rewards to the lower tiers when they buffed the whales.... I don’t expect 4-5 6 stars at the end of the season but if you drop that by 50% per tier working ya way down, silver should get at least 1000 6 star shards or a fully formed 5 star.. silver 1 today I got what... 3500 5 star shards for a season of wars where my alliance finished 7-2 in the 9 wars
silver 1 and you expect 6* shards and a fully formed 5*? yea, not for a long time. We have been talking about gold, now you throwing out silver, that is not even considered anywhere near competitive, you can fall and make silver.
S1 give 3.5k, G3 gives 6k. The scaling and amount of shards is awful.
That is a much smaller gap then every other change in major tiers. The scaling is fine, especially since there is no way a silver player should need to spend anything.
Don’t scale it from the tier directly above it, scale it as whole, from top to bottom for a better picture and stronger argument
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your whole argument in this thread is based on the fact you are spending Glory and units to do AW and you find that its not worth the effort. Well stop spending those resources. You can use the glory instead on rank up materials.
If you want 6* shards then join an alliance that can push gold 2 or above.
AW is competitive game mode where resources you gain are based on how you do compared to others. This isn't if you do x amount of wars you get x rewards. That's what the monthly content is for.
Most of those comments are from the same people, including you me and a few others, that is not 70 differnt people. Also it is not over 1000 views
scrolls past the topic on the forum this is what they see, so ya... petty