What's with the domino bashing?

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  • NewlinstheoryNewlinstheory Member Posts: 1,012 ★★★★
    edited December 2020
    Domino out....cable in :lol::lol::lol:


    Edit: I still like her
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★

    Domino out....cable in :lol::lol::lol:


    Edit: I still like her

    ahha love that
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    IceBro said:

    Utility wise she’s not even a top 20 mutant (15% AAR INSANE‼️‼️‼️)

    Damage wise her damage is RNG and requires 2 synergies with 1 good champ and 1 alright champ and still her damage doesn’t come close to the top mutants even when RNG lines up so she’s a top 12 mutant damage wise

    Since utility>damage Domino is not a top 20 mutant anymore

    This is honestly the biggest pile of nonsense. Not a top 20 mutant? This is why the Domino hate is so absurd. It ought to be possible to not like a good champ without making them out to be Groot.
    I can name 20 mutants who are more useful than Domino
    I can only name Archangel, Magneto, Omega, Colossus, and maybe Namor too.
    id sasyt those 5, havok, apoc, prof x, prob sunspot, and maybe emma to be better
  • IceBroIceBro Member Posts: 179 ★★

    IceBro said:

    Utility wise she’s not even a top 20 mutant (15% AAR INSANE‼️‼️‼️)

    Damage wise her damage is RNG and requires 2 synergies with 1 good champ and 1 alright champ and still her damage doesn’t come close to the top mutants even when RNG lines up so she’s a top 12 mutant damage wise

    Since utility>damage Domino is not a top 20 mutant anymore

    This is honestly the biggest pile of nonsense. Not a top 20 mutant? This is why the Domino hate is so absurd. It ought to be possible to not like a good champ without making them out to be Groot.
    I can name 20 mutants who are more useful than Domino
    I can only name Archangel, Magneto, Omega, Colossus, and maybe Namor too.
    id sasyt those 5, havok, apoc, prof x, prob sunspot, and maybe emma to be better
    Apocalypse and Professor X are pretty good but they are overly reliant on ramp up so I'd put them lower for that. Havok and Emma have some very great uses because they are simple to play and effective at getting fights done just I think domino is much simpler and dominant in certain scenarios.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    IceBro said:

    IceBro said:

    Utility wise she’s not even a top 20 mutant (15% AAR INSANE‼️‼️‼️)

    Damage wise her damage is RNG and requires 2 synergies with 1 good champ and 1 alright champ and still her damage doesn’t come close to the top mutants even when RNG lines up so she’s a top 12 mutant damage wise

    Since utility>damage Domino is not a top 20 mutant anymore

    This is honestly the biggest pile of nonsense. Not a top 20 mutant? This is why the Domino hate is so absurd. It ought to be possible to not like a good champ without making them out to be Groot.
    I can name 20 mutants who are more useful than Domino
    I can only name Archangel, Magneto, Omega, Colossus, and maybe Namor too.
    id sasyt those 5, havok, apoc, prof x, prob sunspot, and maybe emma to be better
    Apocalypse and Professor X are pretty good but they are overly reliant on ramp up so I'd put them lower for that. Havok and Emma have some very great uses because they are simple to play and effective at getting fights done just I think domino is much simpler and dominant in certain scenarios.
    all fair points. I'd agree with prof x that his rampup can be annoying but both he and apoc, especially apoc, have really good utility while domino has 15% aar rng based bleed shrug. Emma, I'd say immunities and evade counter are super important and more useful than dominos out of the bag damage. For havok, I'm not good at explaining his uses but his energy resist unique damage on feedback are pretty nice.
    Also thanks for being reasonable and civil in this discussion : D
  • IceBroIceBro Member Posts: 179 ★★

    IceBro said:

    IceBro said:

    Utility wise she’s not even a top 20 mutant (15% AAR INSANE‼️‼️‼️)

    Damage wise her damage is RNG and requires 2 synergies with 1 good champ and 1 alright champ and still her damage doesn’t come close to the top mutants even when RNG lines up so she’s a top 12 mutant damage wise

    Since utility>damage Domino is not a top 20 mutant anymore

    This is honestly the biggest pile of nonsense. Not a top 20 mutant? This is why the Domino hate is so absurd. It ought to be possible to not like a good champ without making them out to be Groot.
    I can name 20 mutants who are more useful than Domino
    I can only name Archangel, Magneto, Omega, Colossus, and maybe Namor too.
    id sasyt those 5, havok, apoc, prof x, prob sunspot, and maybe emma to be better
    Apocalypse and Professor X are pretty good but they are overly reliant on ramp up so I'd put them lower for that. Havok and Emma have some very great uses because they are simple to play and effective at getting fights done just I think domino is much simpler and dominant in certain scenarios.
    IceBro said:

    IceBro said:

    Utility wise she’s not even a top 20 mutant (15% AAR INSANE‼️‼️‼️)

    Damage wise her damage is RNG and requires 2 synergies with 1 good champ and 1 alright champ and still her damage doesn’t come close to the top mutants even when RNG lines up so she’s a top 12 mutant damage wise

    Since utility>damage Domino is not a top 20 mutant anymore

    This is honestly the biggest pile of nonsense. Not a top 20 mutant? This is why the Domino hate is so absurd. It ought to be possible to not like a good champ without making them out to be Groot.
    I can name 20 mutants who are more useful than Domino
    I can only name Archangel, Magneto, Omega, Colossus, and maybe Namor too.
    id sasyt those 5, havok, apoc, prof x, prob sunspot, and maybe emma to be better
    Apocalypse and Professor X are pretty good but they are overly reliant on ramp up so I'd put them lower for that. Havok and Emma have some very great uses because they are simple to play and effective at getting fights done just I think domino is much simpler and dominant in certain scenarios.
    well i had a comment but it was sent to aoa so ill type a shorter version. Apoc's ramp up doesnt mean he cant have damage and his utility is great. For prof, his damage needds rampup but utility is still great and damage is on par even when accounting for necessary rampup. Emma has protection-like thing, immunities,and evade counter, just to name a few, along with pretty strong damage, though probably not as good. Havok has feedback damage which bypasses a lot of immunities and other weird stuff and bypasses most thorns.

    Also thanks for being civil and reasonable : D
    I certainly don't deny their utilities. Prof X has the easiest to access true strike/vigilance in the game I believe and Apocalypse can apply a decent concussion as well as shut down evaders over time or completely counter purify. Havok is honestly pretty good considering he was a top option in the Summoner Showdown... beating disadvantages against the odds.
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,316 ★★★★★
    Hey if you need quick burst and chance at strong DOT or a really annoying AW defender, hit up Domino.

    Otherwise I don't have much to say about her.
  • MattyPerlerMattyPerler Member Posts: 91
    I love my domino and she was my first ever 5/65 champ.

    Only thing I hate is her evade when I am blocking with her. I go to parry and her evade is so short that their next hit is still able to reach me and causes me to loose a bunch of health.

    Other than that, I use her for basically all content. I even made a second account and got a 4*. Using that to smash all the content too 😂
  • arsjumarsjum Member Posts: 412 ★★★

    Unlike most of the ‘domino haters’ in this thread, I started off liking domino. I pulled the 6* from a Cav crystal and was ecstatic. I even did this:


    However, the only use she has ever seen in blasting through UC EQ. And enjoy that, immensely. She’s fun, and a good damage champ. But she is so severely lacking utility. If you just need damage, sure, great, go for it. But that’s about all she handles.

    Sorry, I should specify. Handles *effectively*. Sure she can push through other interactions and nodes, but she’s nowhere near the best option. In saying that, I think champions like Domino are going to make a resurgence in Act 7, champs with high damage but very low utility, since it doesn’t have node combinations that really need to be ‘countered’.

    Being perfectly honest, folks on both sides of this argument are fairly unreasonable in their assumptions. She’s nowhere close to top 5 mutant, but she’s nowhere near trash either.

    If you like Domino, fair enough, more power to you. But she has clear flaws in her utility and it’s reliability. I’m sorry but that’s undeniable.

    If you loathe domino, again, fair enough. But stay rational. Yes, I am talking to KD here mainly. She’s very, very good for players in Act 5 and for a couple of variants.

    Now if you don’t mind I’ve got an abyss collector to kill, so feel to scream at this post in all the domino-fueled love/hate you want.

    I am a Domino fan but if every critical evaluation of hers was as balanced and rational as this one, I would never have to respond to any of them.

    Good luck on your Collector kill.
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,915 ★★★★★
    arsjum said:

    Unlike most of the ‘domino haters’ in this thread, I started off liking domino. I pulled the 6* from a Cav crystal and was ecstatic. I even did this:


    However, the only use she has ever seen in blasting through UC EQ. And enjoy that, immensely. She’s fun, and a good damage champ. But she is so severely lacking utility. If you just need damage, sure, great, go for it. But that’s about all she handles.

    Sorry, I should specify. Handles *effectively*. Sure she can push through other interactions and nodes, but she’s nowhere near the best option. In saying that, I think champions like Domino are going to make a resurgence in Act 7, champs with high damage but very low utility, since it doesn’t have node combinations that really need to be ‘countered’.

    Being perfectly honest, folks on both sides of this argument are fairly unreasonable in their assumptions. She’s nowhere close to top 5 mutant, but she’s nowhere near trash either.

    If you like Domino, fair enough, more power to you. But she has clear flaws in her utility and it’s reliability. I’m sorry but that’s undeniable.

    If you loathe domino, again, fair enough. But stay rational. Yes, I am talking to KD here mainly. She’s very, very good for players in Act 5 and for a couple of variants.

    Now if you don’t mind I’ve got an abyss collector to kill, so feel to scream at this post in all the domino-fueled love/hate you want.

    I am a Domino fan but if every critical evaluation of hers was as balanced and rational as this one, I would never have to respond to any of them.

    Good luck on your Collector kill.
    Haha thanks. There’s always room for rational discussion, especially on these forums.

    90k left on this collector. One revive to go. 1 unit. Time to grind arena.
  • Rouger4Rouger4 Member Posts: 633 ★★★
    I have a feeling she would be popular if people stopped comparing her to top mutants
  • Duke_SilverDuke_Silver Member Posts: 2,421 ★★★★
    Domino has been at the TOP of my wanted list for so long. She’s awesome, no one can convince me otherwise.
  • TheHoodedDormammuTheHoodedDormammu Member Posts: 1,448 ★★★
    Overall she is pretty good but It would be so awesome if her rule synergy were part of her base kit
  • avenge_123avenge_123 Member Posts: 1,307 ★★★
    Ok sooo many people are saying that domino is extremely overrated,I would like to ask a question:How many people have even rated her overrated?I never saw a person saying that domino is better than col ,mags,or OR.I would answer that she has become a person who is sometimes prejudiced or fixed in a similar frame(stereotyped),by people who have not even tried her,but have formed a decision by seeing posts on Forums...

    It'll be a pretty long one,plz read

    Ok so ya'll are saying that she has no utility so what's this-

    Lucky Passive:

    Increased critical rating and crit Dmg rating.
    +15% Ability Accuracy.
    +353 Block Proficiency.
    10% chance to Evade attacks.
    Stun expires 35%or 45% faster(I don't remember)


    Unlucky Passive:(opponent:

    Decreased crit rating and dmg.
    -35% Ability Accuracy.
    -353 Block Proficiency.
    100% chance for Evade or the Dexterity Mastery to fail.
    Bleed abilities deal 50% less damage.

    Now some people who are saying that she's even worse than rogue,iceman,psylocke,wolvy,storm (pyramid X) or OML,That's not a right manner,U should have also mentioned all the meme tier characters as they all are better than her,so plz keep this thing in mind when writing a post against domino,Nothing else just answer a que:who do u bring on a quest most of the times:rogue,iceman,psylocke,wolvy,storm,OML or Domino.

    other than these things,she also has taunt on her SP2,which is useful in some situations,and her crit bleed makes a person forget about utility.

    Let's come to trinity: her incinerates make the opponent feel useless in life,parry,heavy keep on throwing it(i think she needs a little more heavies in act 6),and that's it ,clean fight,increased stun duration with massacre,literally ignore evade,if u use heavy.

    She has a lot more use in act 7 with nodes like stun vulnerability,and as if with the horseman synergy and the synergy with Prof X make domino even more OP,but it's not necessary,as that trinity makes the two other champs(rulk and massacre) worth it to bring in quests

    As for utility,She does have some decent utility,and the game is just not dependant on utility everytime,If it would be then Shulk would be BGT lol

  • avenge_123avenge_123 Member Posts: 1,307 ★★★
    she definitely is not the best but -
    1.Col
    2.Mags
    3.OR
    4.Archy
    5.Domino

    For me,she's better than prof x namor,apoc,havok,emma,weapon x,etc
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  • SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Member Posts: 1,993 ★★★★
    YoMoves said:

    Moot4Life said:

    Utility wise she’s not even a top 20 mutant (15% AAR INSANE‼️‼️‼️)

    Damage wise her damage is RNG and requires 2 synergies with 1 good champ and 1 alright champ and still her damage doesn’t come close to the top mutants even when RNG lines up so she’s a top 12 mutant damage wise

    Since utility>damage Domino is not a top 20 mutant anymore

    This is honestly the biggest pile of nonsense. Not a top 20 mutant? This is why the Domino hate is so absurd. It ought to be possible to not like a good champ without making them out to be Groot.
    I can name 20 mutants who are more useful than Domino
    Go
    Apocalypse - Tons of utility, consistent immunities, and huge special attacks. Buffs up the entire mutant class.

    Archangel - DOT god, AAR god

    Cable (with Apocalypse synergy) - Both Domino and Cable have little utility, however Cable (especially as a horseman) can regenerate a large chunk of his health every time he crosses a power threshold and can gain power once awakened. His degeneration debuffs, in which only robots are immune to, are extremely potent. He has other small pieces of utility, but they aren't that good.

    Colossus - 6 immunities, extremely tanky, consistent insane damage

    Emma Frost - Lots of utility, evade counter, tanky, tons of immunities

    Gambit (even better as Horseman) - Gambit by himself is better than Domino, but as a horseman, he can achieve 9 hit combos through 1 parry, which is insanely useful. That is in addition to his normal abilities, in which he can counter passive damage back with his medium, heavy, and special attacks, he can reduce regen/power rate, and has -150% bleed resistance (unlike Domino's terrible 50% bleed resistance that is temporary and its length is RNG dependent). He also has a +300% special attack damage with 10 prowess buffs, which are extremely easy to get now with his buff.

    Havok - Tons of utility, insane energy resistance, incinerate immune, huge special attacks, huge DOT, non contact energy attacks

    Iceman - Triple immunities, evade counter, tanky, can tank sp3s, Havok counter, and can do solid damage with coldsnap and frostbite

    Magneto - Metal destroyer, insane utility and damage, nuff said

    Magneto House of X - Metal destroyer as well (extremely potent 70% AAR compared to Domino's terrible 15% AAR), huge special attacks, utility machine, bleed immune. Can also place passive stuns on the opponent instead of stun debuffs on a parry.

    Namor - At sig 200, can reflect ALL damage taken on him to the opponent. Absolutely insane ability. Also can hit really hard once ramped up and can regen some health.

    Old Man Logan - can regenerate a lot of health, has powerful critical bleeds, access to many fury buffs that increase his damage, immune to ability accuracy modification, can armor break, bleed debuffs are 95% less potent, deals extra damage on the opponent for purified debuffs

    Omega Red - Insane DOT, 90% bleed resistance, poison immune, suicide king, AW king, regeneration, ignores all passive damage back with tentacle hits

    Professor X - Easy access to evade and miss counter, huge special attacks, can power control through mind control, immune to reversed controls

    Horseman Psylocke - Can keep the opponent power locked for the entire fight, massive burst off psi charge damage to end off a fight, huge critical rating with the horseman synergy, can power drain and power gain when power draining under a threshold of power

    Rogue - Lots of utility, powerful regeneration off sp1, ALL debuffs have 70% reduced duration, power drain off sp2 (even stronger as horseman with more special attack damage), can replicate buffs which could lead to insane buff combinations and possibilities

    Sabretooth (even better with Sasquatch synergy) - Coldsnap and frostbite immune, absolutely insane damage, can do Labyrinth of Legends and Abyss of Legends (needs Sasquatch synergy), can regenerate health, has consistent non-RNG reliant damage

    Storm (Pyramid X) (even better as a horseman) - Tons of utility through passive stun anti-purify counter (Annihilus and Korg counter, let's see Domino take those fights easily), huge special attacks, can be a full evade counter with long lasting frostbite off sp1, can be coldsnap or shock immune (shock immune is very rare and useful), among other pieces of utility

    Sunspot - Has immense control over the fight with his playstyle, can apply tons of incinerates on the opponent, huge special attacks, consistent perfect block, incinerate immunity, large power gain off siphoning incinerate debuffs onto himself

    Horseman Wolverine - Absolutely insane (Possibly the best mutant in the game). Can almost not die with his insane regeneration, bleed resistance, and insane bleed damage (consistent critical bleeds unlike the RNG dependent Domino who has a chance to not proc bleeds let alone critical bleeds on special attacks).

    Wolverine (Weapon X) - Immune to regeneration rate modification, insane consistent bleed damage, can go unstoppable and unblockable allowing aggressive play, insane regeneration
    So many of these are hilariously bad.

    Weapon X: So the champ literally nobody normal can get can be used as an all-out nuke? Cute, but Domino is accessible to all and has comparable damage, and benefits more from smart play as opposed to mr. all or nothing.

    Sunspot: They honestly have similar damage outputs, but Domino's is more easily accessed. Both have access to perfect block, though while Sunspot's is more reliable, it relies entirely on the opponent not being incinerate immune. If they are, he's useless. Pretty damn good for Red Hulk, though.

    Sabretooth: You're joking, right? Domino can do the freaking Labyrinth. Maybe not as fast with Sasquatch synergy, but that is literally Sabre's only application. Anywhere else, he's relatively weak and only annoying on recovery nodes in war.

    Rogue: If they increased her stolen buff duration I'd be inclined to agree with you. As of the moment, her damage is lacking, and while her regeneration is nice, I like to kill my opponents today, thanks.

    Horseman Wolverine: Unlike Domino, if the opponent is bleed immune, this guy is just as boring as normal Wolverine.

    Psylocke: No, Wrong. Very bad. Any champ with any version of passive power gain (And how many nodes for that are there?) just nopes this entire thing.

    Professor X: Domino has evade counter mechanics too, you know, and has immediately accessible damage output, which makes her more useful in many situations. X is better for longer fights, mind, but Domino is a good nuke for quick ones.

    Old Man Logan: Exact same scenario as Prof X. Good damage, but Domino's is more easily accessible. Also you can't use 'critical bleeds' as an argument when Domino INVENTED that concept. Only Squirrel Girl does them any better, and her bleeds are weak and just used for an instant bleed nuke. His regen is also fairly weak....and Domino also has an armor break.

    White Magneto: His special attacks truly aren't anything overly special. Source: Have a 6*. He's nowhere near the metal destroyer his red brother is, and is honestly useful for his prefight...which Domino can abuse. They go good TOGETHER.

    Namor: While his eventual damage is definitely better than Domino's, there's a buildup to it. His utility allows him to take some fights she can't, but I say again: Domino has an immediately accessible high damage output. I will continue to say this to prove that Domino is either just as useful as, or occasionally better, than champions you mention.

    Iceman: Domino's evade counter is better, and Iceman's damage is absolutely pitiful.

    Gambit: I'm sorry, I've used Gambit, and he's just a bit overhyped. His main use is still Power Reserve L1 spam cheese. His special attacks aren't overly fantastic in base form, and in Horseman form what he mostly gains is perfect block...which you then have to sacrifice to access his damage output. So he functions like Omega now? I'd prefer to use Omega. His utility still isn't all that great. He's still rather difficult to use.

    Emma Frost: This is a case of entirely different situations. Emma's problem is she can't do everything at once. Wanna evade counter? Then you lose all your immunities. Want to be immune to everything? You either need the Colossus synergy or you need to be incredible at managing both your and your opponent's power bars...and even then you can't remain in diamond form when throwing specials. Also...armor break completely shuts all of this down.

    Cable: How is this any different from Domino synergy incinerate spam? Answer, it isn't, and Domino's isn't reliant on the enemy's power level. In addition, Cable's abilities are also RNG based. How is he 'better'?

    AA: If the enemy has even one common immunity, he's ****. Literal feast or famine with AA. Domino, meanwhile, can be used against nearly everyone.

    Every argument of 'better as horseman': Guess who else can become a horseman? Yeah, that's what I thought.

    Now then...you still have, by my count, 14 to go? I could have said something about Storm X and even possibly Havok, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
    See I was right about to hit agree but then you start brining the actual god tiers like AA, Sunspot, and prof x.
    First, Domino doesn't have ALL PERFECT BLOCKS LIKE SUNSPOT and sunspots dmg is way higher, Dominos evade counter is ONLY IF UNLUCKY,


    and the AA argument. Just wth
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