Why doesn’t Prof X retain 70% power when fighting Cav Slumber Unstoppable Collossus?

CosmicGuardian

Sarvanga1_ said:

HI_guys said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

its an easter egg, same reason why they work for delerium, same reason why they are unaffected by emma frosts reverse controls.

Delerium is not an Easter egg. The node specifies Psychic resistance are immune to reverse controls

But the champs who have psychic resistance are not stated anywhere. So you gotta find em and that's the Easter egg.

There was actually a psychic shielding tag added recently so it’s actually quite easy to find by using the tag search in the champion collection screen.

Sarvanga1_

CosmicGuardian said:

Sarvanga1_ said:

HI_guys said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

its an easter egg, same reason why they work for delerium, same reason why they are unaffected by emma frosts reverse controls.

Delerium is not an Easter egg. The node specifies Psychic resistance are immune to reverse controls

But the champs who have psychic resistance are not stated anywhere. So you gotta find em and that's the Easter egg.

There was actually a psychic shielding tag added recently so it’s actually quite easy to find by using the tag search in the champion collection screen.

Oh that's great.

Crcrcrc

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

* Do you have a source to back up the claim that Prof X is intended to work this way

SkyLord7000 said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

This doesn’t give anything stating in game mechanics.

If Juggernaut has Psychic Shielding, I don't see why UC wouldn't

Crcrcrc

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

* Do you have a source to back up the claim that Prof X is intended to work this way

SkyLord7000 said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

This doesn’t give anything stating in game mechanics.

If Juggernaut has Psychic Shielding, I don't see why UC wouldn't

Yes we know he has shielding the question is about prof x not being able to use his abilitie's with the same potency

Psychic shielding causes Prof X's abilities to work as if the opponent is tech

CosmicGuardian

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

* Do you have a source to back up the claim that Prof X is intended to work this way

SkyLord7000 said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

This doesn’t give anything stating in game mechanics.

If Juggernaut has Psychic Shielding, I don't see why UC wouldn't

Yes we know he has shielding the question is about prof x not being able to use his abilitie's with the same potency

The shielding is the reason why he doesn’t retain 70% of his power after launching a special. Since the mind control is a psychic ability, the shielding would therefore reduce its potency. Most likely we’ll see text added soon, especially since there will probably be more champs with psychic abilities added in the future. At first, to my knowledge the only one impacted was Emma, but then they added Xavier, and even Stryfe has his invisibility which is ineffective against psychic shielding.

Crcrcrc

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

* Do you have a source to back up the claim that Prof X is intended to work this way

SkyLord7000 said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

This doesn’t give anything stating in game mechanics.

If Juggernaut has Psychic Shielding, I don't see why UC wouldn't

Yes we know he has shielding the question is about prof x not being able to use his abilitie's with the same potency

Psychic shielding causes Prof X's abilities to work as if the opponent is tech

Yeah we know that's how it works. The question is where is that written?

Same place DD's miss immunity is written

CosmicGuardian

HI_guys said:

CosmicGuardian said:

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

* Do you have a source to back up the claim that Prof X is intended to work this way

SkyLord7000 said:

Crcrcrc said:

SkyLord7000 said:

Agent_X_zzz said:

As others have stated its due to his helmet protecting him from psychic attacks.

Do you have a source to back that up?

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Juggernaut's_Helmet#:~:text=Juggernaut's Helmet is a special,helmet that blocks psi-energy.
"Juggernaut's Helmet is a special form of headgear designed to protect the wearer from all forms of telepathy. He also wears a metal skull cap underneath the helmet made of the same metal as Magneto's helmet that blocks psi-energy."
UC is wearing Juggernaut's helmet

This doesn’t give anything stating in game mechanics.

If Juggernaut has Psychic Shielding, I don't see why UC wouldn't

Yes we know he has shielding the question is about prof x not being able to use his abilitie's with the same potency

The shielding is the reason why he doesn’t retain 70% of his power after launching a special. Since the mind control is a psychic ability, the shielding would therefore reduce its potency. Most likely we’ll see text added soon, especially since there will probably be more champs with psychic abilities added in the future. At first, to my knowledge the only one impacted was Emma, but then they added Xavier, and even Stryfe has his invisibility which is ineffective against psychic shielding.

Buts stryfes abilties make it clear that he cannot trigger invisibility agaisnt psychic opponets

While I understand that Stryfe’s abilities do clearly state that his invisibility will not work against #psychic-shielding and Xavier’s abilities do not, as stated above it is most likely that this will be added to Xavier’s abilities sometime soon. It hasn’t been stated in Emma’s kit either, who is also impacted by this ability. Like stated earlier, this started out as a little Easter eggs years ago that only affected Emma at the time. When Xavier was introduced, it carried over to his abilities as well. I believe the tag was only introduced in the last month or so with the introduction of Stryfe, which most likely signals their intent to introduce more champs with both psychic abilities and psychic shielding to counter said abilities. As such, it is very likely that they will go back and add that clarification to both Xavier and Emma.

Terra

HI_guys said:

Silver_Goose said:

It’s an easter egg basically.

Easter eggs are small, fun and for the most part insignificant. This has such a huge impact on his abilities

Let's see...
Daredevil(s) ignore invisibility which is a easter egg and adds a utility to them.
Mag(s), Juggernaut and Unst Colossus are immune to champion induced rev controls, bringing another utility to their kit. I wouldn't call that insignificant

SkyLord7000

Terra said:

HI_guys said:

Silver_Goose said:

It’s an easter egg basically.

Easter eggs are small, fun and for the most part insignificant. This has such a huge impact on his abilities

Let's see...
Daredevil(s) ignore invisibility which is a easter egg and adds a utility to them.
Mag(s), Juggernaut and Unst Colossus are immune to champion induced rev controls, bringing another utility to their kit. I wouldn't call that insignificant

Ok then only positively affect the attacker. This would be a first where an “Easter Egg” has negatively affected the attacker. And more to that I believe the psychic shielding tag has been added to shift the ability to less of an Easter Egg.

Everyone seems to agree that a simple fix would be to just add text. This should of been in place from the start of his release to not cause all the confusion in the first place.

SkyLord7000

Unless it is an actual bug that needs to be fixed. It’s impossible to know for sure though because it isn’t stated in the game anywhere.

CosmicGuardian

I do agree that they should’ve added the text when Xavier was added, but it wasn’t. Perhaps at that time they had no intention of expanding upon different psychic abilities, or maybe they just made a mistake, we don’t know. What we do know is that it is most likely not a bug, as it has been noticed since his release, and as previously stated the shielding ability had already been present, just not addressed in ability kits. The introduction of the tag, and the fact that Stryfe has a psychic ability seems to hint that there will most likely be more champs that both have psychic abilities and shielding. And yes, Stryfe’s kit clearly makes reference to it, but most likely Xavier will have it added to his kit soon.

Crcrcrc

Why do you guys care so much about where the proof is? It doesn’t have to be explicitly said by Kabam to be blatantly obvious to the players

slacker

Crcrcrc said:

Why do you guys care so much about where the proof is? It doesn’t have to be explicitly said by Kabam to be blatantly obvious to the players

Man, they're acting like it's the end of the world over a easter egg in a game

slacker

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

Crcrcrc said:

Why do you guys care so much about where the proof is? It doesn’t have to be explicitly said by Kabam to be blatantly obvious to the players

Man, they're acting like it's the end of the world over a easter egg in a game

Getting smacked in the face due to unwritten interactions in a game as complicated as this is stupid

But it's still not the end of the world, also it's affect his power reduction not damage, it's just annoying.

Crcrcrc

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

Crcrcrc said:

Why do you guys care so much about where the proof is? It doesn’t have to be explicitly said by Kabam to be blatantly obvious to the players

Man, they're acting like it's the end of the world over a easter egg in a game

Getting smacked in the face due to unwritten interactions in a game as complicated as this is stupid

But it's still not the end of the world, also it's affect his power reduction not damage, it's just annoying.

No bug is the end of the world. That means nothing. It messes up your rotation so bad. Getting to another special can be just annoying or be a death sentence depending on the matchuo

It’s not a bug. It’s an easter egg. Easter eggs lose their shine when they are written out. Just deal with it and read some comics to understand the next easter egg.

Crcrcrc

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

Crcrcrc said:

Why do you guys care so much about where the proof is? It doesn’t have to be explicitly said by Kabam to be blatantly obvious to the players

Man, they're acting like it's the end of the world over a easter egg in a game

Getting smacked in the face due to unwritten interactions in a game as complicated as this is stupid

But it's still not the end of the world, also it's affect his power reduction not damage, it's just annoying.

No bug is the end of the world. That means nothing. It messes up your rotation so bad. Getting to another special can be just annoying or be a death sentence depending on the matchuo

It’s not a bug. It’s an easter egg. Easter eggs lose their shine when they are written out. Just deal with it and read some comics to understand the next easter egg.

Lmao you literally have no proof it is meant to be like that. Read comics?? Really? Iceman would like a word.

Is coldsnap immunity an easter egg? Didn’t think so.

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

Crcrcrc said:

Why do you guys care so much about where the proof is? It doesn’t have to be explicitly said by Kabam to be blatantly obvious to the players

Man, they're acting like it's the end of the world over a easter egg in a game

Getting smacked in the face due to unwritten interactions in a game as complicated as this is stupid

But it's still not the end of the world, also it's affect his power reduction not damage, it's just annoying.

No bug is the end of the world. That means nothing. It messes up your rotation so bad. Getting to another special can be just annoying or be a death sentence depending on the matchuo

It’s not a bug. It’s an easter egg. Easter eggs lose their shine when they are written out. Just deal with it and read some comics to understand the next easter egg.

Losing your power rotation is not any sort of "shine"

Now you know not to use Prof X against him. It’s a little nice comic reference. Deal with it and use another champion.

Crcrcrc

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

Crcrcrc said:

Why do you guys care so much about where the proof is? It doesn’t have to be explicitly said by Kabam to be blatantly obvious to the players

Man, they're acting like it's the end of the world over a easter egg in a game

Getting smacked in the face due to unwritten interactions in a game as complicated as this is stupid

But it's still not the end of the world, also it's affect his power reduction not damage, it's just annoying.

No bug is the end of the world. That means nothing. It messes up your rotation so bad. Getting to another special can be just annoying or be a death sentence depending on the matchuo

It’s not a bug. It’s an easter egg. Easter eggs lose their shine when they are written out. Just deal with it and read some comics to understand the next easter egg.

Lmao you literally have no proof it is meant to be like that. Read comics?? Really? Iceman would like a word.

Is coldsnap immunity an easter egg? Didn’t think so.

HI_guys said:

Crcrcrc said:

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

HI_guys said:

slacker said:

Crcrcrc said:

Why do you guys care so much about where the proof is? It doesn’t have to be explicitly said by Kabam to be blatantly obvious to the players

Man, they're acting like it's the end of the world over a easter egg in a game

Getting smacked in the face due to unwritten interactions in a game as complicated as this is stupid

But it's still not the end of the world, also it's affect his power reduction not damage, it's just annoying.

No bug is the end of the world. That means nothing. It messes up your rotation so bad. Getting to another special can be just annoying or be a death sentence depending on the matchuo

It’s not a bug. It’s an easter egg. Easter eggs lose their shine when they are written out. Just deal with it and read some comics to understand the next easter egg.

Losing your power rotation is not any sort of "shine"

Now you know not to use Prof X against him. It’s a little nice comic reference. Deal with it and use another champion.

You know you can still mind control magneto and prof x using prof x right? Is it like that in the comics?

Yes. Extremely strong telepaths (like prof x with the helmet) can bypass his psychic shielding helmet. And prof x has no mind control prevention except his own will.