Falcon - 6* sig 20 or 5* sig 200 - Who you got?

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Sig 200 gets massive crit rate but 6*’s will benefit off the book 2 global so it’s a bit of a difficult decision

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Dart1981

5* sig 200

GagoH said:

Sig 200 gets massive crit rate but 6*’s will benefit off the book 2 global so it’s a bit of a difficult decision

I've got a 5* 5/65 sig 120 falcon, would love the 6* but that crit on evade fail does give awesome extra damage

pseudosane

6* sig 20

i see barely any difference in my r5 sig200 on main and r5 sig20 on alt.

Drenlin

6* sig 20

5*s are the present but 6*s are the future it’s a pretty easy decision really

Colinwhitworth69

My 6s is unawakened so I took my 5 star to max rank.

Sarvanga1_

6* sig 20

His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .

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Thicco_Mode

Sarvanga1_ said:

His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .

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Polygon

Sarvanga1_ said:

His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .

You miss out on a huge chunk of dps if its not high sig though

magnus_xix

6* sig 20

At sig 20 he has 50.7% crit chance. At sig 200 he has 61.5% crit chance. You're only losing out on roughly 1 crit every 10 hits if you rank up the 6*

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magnus_xix said:

At sig 20 he has 50.7% crit chance. At sig 200 he has 61.5% crit chance. You're only losing out on roughly 1 crit every 10 hits if you rank up the 6*

Where are you getting those numbers from? On Auntmai, The graph of the sig looks linear with a slope of 6 meaning higher sig should make a noticable difference

Sungj

GagoH said:

Where are you getting those numbers from? On Auntmai, The graph of the sig looks linear with a slope of 6 meaning higher sig should make a noticable difference

Diminishing returns. Even though the graph on auntmai shows a steep curve it's not actually representative of the in game effect. I haven't seen the calculations but people have roughly figured out how crit rate numbers translate to crit percentage with diminishing returns and those numbers seem pretty believable to me.

Mother_Flerken

6* sig 20

Calculator: https://champions.azurewebsites.net/stats

Let's assume Falcon is a 6* R2 against a challenger rating on 120.

Mastery setup let's assume 1 in lesser precision and 5 in precision for 450 crit rate boost.

Falcon has a base crit rate of 817 (28%)

Sig 20 adds 755.02 crit rate.

So 817 + 450 + 755.02 = 2,022.2 (49.1%)

Sig 200 adds 1861.69 crit rate

So 817 + 450 + 1861.69 = 3,128.69 (59.8%)


Difference of 10.7% crit rate between sig 20 and 200 Falcon at r2.

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Mattyy said:

Calculator: https://champions.azurewebsites.net/stats

Let's assume Falcon is a 6* R2 against a challenger rating on 120.

Mastery setup let's assume 1 in lesser precision and 5 in precision for 450 crit rate boost.

Falcon has a base crit rate of 817 (28%)

Sig 20 adds 755.02 crit rate.

So 817 + 450 + 755.02 = 2,022.2 (49.1%)

Sig 200 adds 1861.69 crit rate

So 817 + 450 + 1861.69 = 3,128.69 (59.8%)


Difference of 10.7% crit rate between sig 20 and 200 Falcon at r2.

Oh wow so he doesn’t even really benefit that much at high sig

Sarvanga1_

6* sig 20

GagoH said:

Sarvanga1_ said:

His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .

You miss out on a huge chunk of dps if its not high sig though

No

Polygon

@magnus_xix @Mattyy



My 6* falcon isn’t duped so I went with the 5 star.

What do you recommend sigging him too? Looks like from your posts above sig 20 was enough for the 6* (only missing 1 crit out of 10 hits ). Would this be the same for the 5*?

MrInsanity

6* sig 20

GagoH said:

Sarvanga1_ said:

His awakening is more important than having him at max sig. So I would go with the 6 star .

You miss out on a huge chunk of dps if its not high sig though

No.

Oakenshield

GagoH said:

@magnus_xix @Mattyy



My 6* falcon isn’t duped so I went with the 5 star.

What do you recommend sigging him too? Looks like from your posts above sig 20 was enough for the 6* (only missing 1 crit out of 10 hits ). Would this be the same for the 5*?

For the 5* you can get half the crit benefit just by taking him to 47 sig level. That’s what I did - half the benefit for less than a quarter the investment is a no brainer.

magnus_xix

6* sig 20

GagoH said:

@ magnus_xix @ Mattyy



My 6* falcon isn’t duped so I went with the 5 star.

What do you recommend sigging him too? Looks like from your posts above sig 20 was enough for the 6* (only missing 1 crit out of 10 hits ). Would this be the same for the 5*?

Yes his sig scales up pretty much the same for the 5* and 6*.

Polygon

Cool, thanks lads.

Sucks my 6* is unduped, got a skill t5cc ready for either him or fury once I dupe one of them

Fiesty_Foreskin

I've played him at all sig levels, the 5 and 6 star but mostly the 6 in the last half year. The numbers work out to say 10%, but man I'm telling ya it's very noticeable imo. Ever since taking him to 200, AW fights are over in a snap, and damn near everything crits. It wasn't like this when he was sig 90 at all.

Fiesty_Foreskin

If you have the stones and hes a go to for you, I say it's worth it 100% to pump him full. If you don't use him in AW pretty much every war like I do, maybe stop at like 60