Now i can use my Hood more frequently and not for specific situations once per 6 months as before for the buffs control with fateseal even if he lost this ability, there are still 200 champions it is very naive to want everything at once in one character.
Even Aegon who is the strongest, in certain areas of the game he is not competent.
Before the changes my hood was lying around and I took him only once a year because of his fateseal ability but after update i can use him more than before.
Fateseal is nice to have but if i need to choice the old version or new version i will choice the new one with new mechanics and +200k burst damage, also now he can counter attack like ghost + you can parry while in invisible, + decent health steal and i hope its not a bug.
Mags lost hes ability to tank sp 3 + healblock = no panic
Old man logan lost hes passive regen = no panic
I gave fateseal in return i got much better invisibility ( in my opion ), decent regen / suicide friendly ( in my opininion ), nice burst damage with some fun mechanics ( in my opinion ) + better signature ability
3. The regen on hood might not even be intended so don’t go hyping him for that. 4. You’ll probably not even use hood once the honeymoon phase ends because others do burst damage better.
I think these two points are important to keep in mind. It seems like currently his stagger regen isn’t working as intended, plus it seems like people are able to reload their bullets by spamming the heavy, which may also be a bug. They have said they’re looking into it, but beyond that there hasn’t been any definitive response yet.
As for the second point, he will most likely see a lot of use over the next week or so, as will the other three buffed champs, but most likely the interest will drop off once the hype dies down and people are finished testing the buffs and see each one’s uses and weaknesses.
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
This is so completely different. Magneto went from a horrible champ with no uses to an amazing champ with tons of uses.
Hood went from an above average champ with niche uses to an above average champ with no uses.
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
But Magneto got a massive upgrade in the damage and utility department. Hood got some regen and damage improved at the cost of ease of use and the fate seal.
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
This is so completely different. Magneto went from a horrible champ with no uses to an amazing champ with tons of uses.
Hood went from an above average champ with niche uses to an above average champ with no uses.
when did Hood became a above average champ before the buff I'm wondering how often will you bring him into the quest. Once or twice per month?
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
But Magneto got a massive upgrade in the damage and utility department. Hood got some regen and damage improved at the cost of ease of use and the fate seal.
Apart from fate seal, I think his other abilities bascially stayed the same. Anyway it will be great if Kabam can put that ability back.
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
This is so completely different. Magneto went from a horrible champ with no uses to an amazing champ with tons of uses.
Hood went from an above average champ with niche uses to an above average champ with no uses.
when did Hood became a above average champ before the buff I'm wondering how often will you bring him into the quest. Once or twice per month?
He was great for every mystic cav path, where his damage increased thanks to nodes. Even his shock was dealing a noticable damage. How often would you use symb supreme? All same fights actually. So it is once per month, you'd say. Does it mean he should be reworked into generic average champ?
Why does it take so long ? tell me that it works as intended and let's move on
Well firstly, they need to test it themselves and see if it’s a bug or working how they intended. Then, if it isn’t what they intended they need to decide on what to do, whether to remove it or leave as is.
Secondly, they also need to look into the heavy as there have been multiple reports of gaining bullets from the heavy, as well as the sp2. That also needs to be tested, and then a decision needs to be made on that as well.
Finally, even though they did respond by saying they are looking at everyone’s feedback regarding Hood’s update, there has yet to be an official response to that. Most likely, they’ll probably try to include everything in one statement rather than make multiple different posts so that all the information is in the same place.
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
This is so completely different. Magneto went from a horrible champ with no uses to an amazing champ with tons of uses.
Hood went from an above average champ with niche uses to an above average champ with no uses.
when did Hood became a above average champ before the buff I'm wondering how often will you bring him into the quest. Once or twice per month?
You’d think that someone with Ghost as their profile pic would understand how incredibly helpful it was to have Hood on your team in his former state.
I used my R2 6* Hood ALL THE TIME.
I R2 my hood as well, but I only bring him when I need the Ghost/Hood synergy. Since there are a lot better buff control champions than him.
I have to say, after the change he is much fun to play than it used be.
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
This is so completely different. Magneto went from a horrible champ with no uses to an amazing champ with tons of uses.
Hood went from an above average champ with niche uses to an above average champ with no uses.
when did Hood became a above average champ before the buff I'm wondering how often will you bring him into the quest. Once or twice per month?
You’d think that someone with Ghost as their profile pic would understand how incredibly helpful it was to have Hood on your team in his former state.
I used my R2 6* Hood ALL THE TIME.
I R2 my hood as well, but I only bring him when I need the Ghost/Hood synergy. Since there are a lot better buff control champions than him.
I have to say, after the change he is much fun to play than it used be.
In high buff scenarios that Ghost didn't work for, you could always use Hood because of his great buff control. But not anymore since he can't control buffs nearly as well. And his 90% change to miss projectiles was incredibly useful against opponents with high attack. People used to use him for that.
Now he's just an above average damage dealer with a bit of buff control. You know who else has that? 50% of the Mystic class.
There were situations pre-buff where you'd use him over Doom, Claire, Kali, Magik, SS, but not anymore. Now he's just a damage dealer in a sea full of damage dealers.
Why does it take so long ? tell me that it works as intended and let's move on
Well firstly, they need to test it themselves and see if it’s a bug or working how they intended. Then, if it isn’t what they intended they need to decide on what to do, whether to remove it or leave as is.
Secondly, they also need to look into the heavy as there have been multiple reports of gaining bullets from the heavy, as well as the sp2. That also needs to be tested, and then a decision needs to be made on that as well.
Finally, even though they did respond by saying they are looking at everyone’s feedback regarding Hood’s update, there has yet to be an official response to that. Most likely, they’ll probably try to include everything in one statement rather than make multiple different posts so that all the information is in the same place.
It really is simple as yes we expected this interaction or no he was not intended to heal or generate bullets like this. They have specs
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
that's different. People actually used Hood because he helped them with many things. Kabam changed his entire kit and now people that used him for certain things can't anymore
Now i can use my Hood more frequently and not for specific situations once per 6 months as before for the buffs control with fateseal even if he lost this ability, there are still 200 champions it is very naive to want everything at once in one character.
Even Aegon who is the strongest, in certain areas of the game he is not competent.
Before the changes my hood was lying around and I took him only once a year because of his fateseal ability but after update i can use him more than before.
Fateseal is nice to have but if i need to choice the old version or new version i will choice the new one with new mechanics and +200k burst damage, also now he can counter attack like ghost + you can parry while in invisible, + decent health steal and i hope its not a bug.
Mags lost hes ability to tank sp 3 + healblock = no panic
Old man logan lost hes passive regen = no panic
I gave fateseal in return i got much better invisibility ( in my opion ), decent regen / suicide friendly ( in my opininion ), nice burst damage with some fun mechanics ( in my opinion ) + better signature ability
1. Literally nobody used magneto, also you still have access to healblock if you want it, though if you’re using him against metal opponents as designed, you’re better off not having that synergy if regen is involved. 2. OML also wasn’t used before, either way, he didn’t lose his regen, it was just changed to a buff. Closest that is to Hood is to his stagger changes, the fate seal change isn’t the same. 3. The regen on hood might not even be intended so don’t go hyping him for that. 4. You’ll probably not even use hood once the honeymoon phase ends because others do burst damage better.
You don’t know who used magneto? For the SP3, you also don’t know who used him for healblock. It was a core mechanic of his that is no longer apart of his kit.
I used OML literally all the time , and I used him for TJ at buff against all tricky mystic champs.
We don’t know about hoods regen , but from reading it is working as intended some key wording changed his abilities.
Go on YouTube and read the comments, so many people are happy about this change because they can use him all over now. This forum only has small sample size of the Mcoc population.
I have plenty of end game friends and also friends who have just completed act 6 and they get their information and form their opinions through differ channels. I actually spoke to 3 end game and 3 mid game players this is a paraphrase of what they said .
End game 1.) I like that hood and massacre won’t be synergy pieces anymore , hood wasn’t necessarily a side piece , but I liked that he could Spam SP2s back to back , Fate seal wasn’t something I used him for , but it was pointless to take out of his kit.
End Game 2.) I think best rework goes to Angela or Hood, Hoods damage is noticeably different , it was a drag to use him when I didn’t want to revive ghost .
End game 3 .) Did his prestige increase?
Mid Game 1.) I don’t own a Hood above a 4* , so I haven’t tested him out.
Mid game 2.) No one in our ally has talked about it yet, so I don’t know.
Mid game 3.) Hood got a buff? when ? is he good for 7.1 ? I liked him as a 4* back in the day and I didn’t think he needed a buff.
Bonus poll : MCOC elderly home interview and retirees : Group answer: “ Don’t trust Kabam”
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Well, better late than never I guess.
I do hope this isn't just a one-way talk, but something really changes.
They done Hood dirty by removing his utility. But please Kabam let him keep his current regeneration and let his heavy add 3 bullets! I actually wont be too disappointed in his "buff" if he stays EXACTLY how he is right now.
Now i can use my Hood more frequently and not for specific situations once per 6 months as before for the buffs control with fateseal even if he lost this ability, there are still 200 champions it is very naive to want everything at once in one character.
Even Aegon who is the strongest, in certain areas of the game he is not competent.
Before the changes my hood was lying around and I took him only once a year because of his fateseal ability but after update i can use him more than before.
Fateseal is nice to have but if i need to choice the old version or new version i will choice the new one with new mechanics and +200k burst damage, also now he can counter attack like ghost + you can parry while in invisible, + decent health steal and i hope its not a bug.
Mags lost hes ability to tank sp 3 + healblock = no panic
Old man logan lost hes passive regen = no panic
I gave fateseal in return i got much better invisibility ( in my opion ), decent regen / suicide friendly ( in my opininion ), nice burst damage with some fun mechanics ( in my opinion ) + better signature ability
1. Literally nobody used magneto, also you still have access to healblock if you want it, though if you’re using him against metal opponents as designed, you’re better off not having that synergy if regen is involved. 2. OML also wasn’t used before, either way, he didn’t lose his regen, it was just changed to a buff. Closest that is to Hood is to his stagger changes, the fate seal change isn’t the same. 3. The regen on hood might not even be intended so don’t go hyping him for that. 4. You’ll probably not even use hood once the honeymoon phase ends because others do burst damage better.
You don’t know who used magneto? For the SP3, you also don’t know who used him for healblock. It was a core mechanic of his that is no longer apart of his kit.
I used OML literally all the time , and I used him for TJ at buff against all tricky mystic champs.
We don’t know about hoods regen , but from reading it is working as intended some key wording changed his abilities.
Go on YouTube and read the comments, so many people are happy about this change because they can use him all over now. This forum only has small sample size of the Mcoc population.
I have plenty of end game friends and also friends who have just completed act 6 and they get their information and form their opinions through differ channels. I actually spoke to 3 end game and 3 mid game players this is a paraphrase of what they said .
End game 1.) I like that hood and massacre won’t be synergy pieces anymore , hood wasn’t necessarily a side piece , but I liked that he could Spam SP2s back to back , Fate seal wasn’t something I used him for , but it was pointless to take out of his kit.
End Game 2.) I think best rework goes to Angela or Hood, Hoods damage is noticeably different , it was a drag to use him when I didn’t want to revive ghost .
End game 3 .) Did his prestige increase?
Mid Game 1.) I don’t own a Hood above a 4* , so I haven’t tested him out.
Mid game 2.) No one in our ally has talked about it yet, so I don’t know.
Mid game 3.) Hood got a buff? when ? is he good for 7.1 ? I liked him as a 4* back in the day and I didn’t think he needed a buff.
Bonus poll : MCOC elderly home interview and retirees : Group answer: “ Don’t trust Kabam”
They have PTSD like old war vets from 12.0 .
Heal block was a core mechanic of Magneto? Why was there no outrage over its removal? I had no idea he had heal block because only place where I used him was arena.
I am almost sure the regen in the updated Hood is a unintended interaction. But, I am willing to wait for Kabam to respond. He becomes a better champ if it stays, but I am not sure I will take him any further than R2.
Its an almost meaningless update for endgame players, we/they have counters other than Hood. The main issues are two fold. 1) Why was it removed since we can see that having it in sp2 will not be too OP? 2) What does it mean for future updates if simply removing an utility and giving some damage will appease the masses? Hood is more than a synergy piece now having decent damage, but you may need to bring in another mystic to deal with some annoying matchups in the future, which will be the real problem.
Now i can use my Hood more frequently and not for specific situations once per 6 months as before for the buffs control with fateseal even if he lost this ability, there are still 200 champions it is very naive to want everything at once in one character.
Even Aegon who is the strongest, in certain areas of the game he is not competent.
Before the changes my hood was lying around and I took him only once a year because of his fateseal ability but after update i can use him more than before.
Fateseal is nice to have but if i need to choice the old version or new version i will choice the new one with new mechanics and +200k burst damage, also now he can counter attack like ghost + you can parry while in invisible, + decent health steal and i hope its not a bug.
Mags lost hes ability to tank sp 3 + healblock = no panic
Old man logan lost hes passive regen = no panic
I gave fateseal in return i got much better invisibility ( in my opion ), decent regen / suicide friendly ( in my opininion ), nice burst damage with some fun mechanics ( in my opinion ) + better signature ability
1. Literally nobody used magneto, also you still have access to healblock if you want it, though if you’re using him against metal opponents as designed, you’re better off not having that synergy if regen is involved. 2. OML also wasn’t used before, either way, he didn’t lose his regen, it was just changed to a buff. Closest that is to Hood is to his stagger changes, the fate seal change isn’t the same. 3. The regen on hood might not even be intended so don’t go hyping him for that. 4. You’ll probably not even use hood once the honeymoon phase ends because others do burst damage better.
You don’t know who used magneto? For the SP3, you also don’t know who used him for healblock. It was a core mechanic of his that is no longer apart of his kit.
As previously mentioned, while Magneto did technically lose the heal block from his base kit, he can still access ways to control healing. Any metal matchup, his recommended matchups, automatically has -105% regeneration rate once his magnetism passive applies. Alongside that, he has a synergy with Magik, Juggernaut, Sabretooth, and Scarlet Witch that gives him a heal block off knocking down the enemy. So he can still quite competently manage healing, unless perhaps he is being used in a non-metal matchup where he doesn’t excel as well. The fact remains that Magneto was not used nearly as much as Hood, and the heal block debuff was not a major piece of his utility and identity like Hood’s fate seal, however Magneto can still access heal control while Hood can no longer access his fate seal.
Now i can use my Hood more frequently and not for specific situations once per 6 months as before for the buffs control with fateseal even if he lost this ability, there are still 200 champions it is very naive to want everything at once in one character.
Even Aegon who is the strongest, in certain areas of the game he is not competent.
Before the changes my hood was lying around and I took him only once a year because of his fateseal ability but after update i can use him more than before.
Fateseal is nice to have but if i need to choice the old version or new version i will choice the new one with new mechanics and +200k burst damage, also now he can counter attack like ghost + you can parry while in invisible, + decent health steal and i hope its not a bug.
Mags lost hes ability to tank sp 3 + healblock = no panic
Old man logan lost hes passive regen = no panic
I gave fateseal in return i got much better invisibility ( in my opion ), decent regen / suicide friendly ( in my opininion ), nice burst damage with some fun mechanics ( in my opinion ) + better signature ability
1. Literally nobody used magneto, also you still have access to healblock if you want it, though if you’re using him against metal opponents as designed, you’re better off not having that synergy if regen is involved. 2. OML also wasn’t used before, either way, he didn’t lose his regen, it was just changed to a buff. Closest that is to Hood is to his stagger changes, the fate seal change isn’t the same. 3. The regen on hood might not even be intended so don’t go hyping him for that. 4. You’ll probably not even use hood once the honeymoon phase ends because others do burst damage better.
You don’t know who used magneto? For the SP3, you also don’t know who used him for healblock. It was a core mechanic of his that is no longer apart of his kit.
I used OML literally all the time , and I used him for TJ at buff against all tricky mystic champs.
We don’t know about hoods regen , but from reading it is working as intended some key wording changed his abilities.
Go on YouTube and read the comments, so many people are happy about this change because they can use him all over now. This forum only has small sample size of the Mcoc population.
I have plenty of end game friends and also friends who have just completed act 6 and they get their information and form their opinions through differ channels. I actually spoke to 3 end game and 3 mid game players this is a paraphrase of what they said .
End game 1.) I like that hood and massacre won’t be synergy pieces anymore , hood wasn’t necessarily a side piece , but I liked that he could Spam SP2s back to back , Fate seal wasn’t something I used him for , but it was pointless to take out of his kit.
End Game 2.) I think best rework goes to Angela or Hood, Hoods damage is noticeably different , it was a drag to use him when I didn’t want to revive ghost .
End game 3 .) Did his prestige increase?
Mid Game 1.) I don’t own a Hood above a 4* , so I haven’t tested him out.
Mid game 2.) No one in our ally has talked about it yet, so I don’t know.
Mid game 3.) Hood got a buff? when ? is he good for 7.1 ? I liked him as a 4* back in the day and I didn’t think he needed a buff.
Bonus poll : MCOC elderly home interview and retirees : Group answer: “ Don’t trust Kabam”
They have PTSD like old war vets from 12.0 .
Indeed, I keep seeing people complain about the feat seal removed, but I don't actually remember a pass that you can't do without Hood. And there are people say that they used Hood everyday before the buff, I just don't believe it.
Now i can use my Hood more frequently and not for specific situations once per 6 months as before for the buffs control with fateseal even if he lost this ability, there are still 200 champions it is very naive to want everything at once in one character.
Even Aegon who is the strongest, in certain areas of the game he is not competent.
Before the changes my hood was lying around and I took him only once a year because of his fateseal ability but after update i can use him more than before.
Fateseal is nice to have but if i need to choice the old version or new version i will choice the new one with new mechanics and +200k burst damage, also now he can counter attack like ghost + you can parry while in invisible, + decent health steal and i hope its not a bug.
Mags lost hes ability to tank sp 3 + healblock = no panic
Old man logan lost hes passive regen = no panic
I gave fateseal in return i got much better invisibility ( in my opion ), decent regen / suicide friendly ( in my opininion ), nice burst damage with some fun mechanics ( in my opinion ) + better signature ability
1. Literally nobody used magneto, also you still have access to healblock if you want it, though if you’re using him against metal opponents as designed, you’re better off not having that synergy if regen is involved. 2. OML also wasn’t used before, either way, he didn’t lose his regen, it was just changed to a buff. Closest that is to Hood is to his stagger changes, the fate seal change isn’t the same. 3. The regen on hood might not even be intended so don’t go hyping him for that. 4. You’ll probably not even use hood once the honeymoon phase ends because others do burst damage better.
You don’t know who used magneto? For the SP3, you also don’t know who used him for healblock. It was a core mechanic of his that is no longer apart of his kit.
I used OML literally all the time , and I used him for TJ at buff against all tricky mystic champs.
We don’t know about hoods regen , but from reading it is working as intended some key wording changed his abilities.
Go on YouTube and read the comments, so many people are happy about this change because they can use him all over now. This forum only has small sample size of the Mcoc population.
I have plenty of end game friends and also friends who have just completed act 6 and they get their information and form their opinions through differ channels. I actually spoke to 3 end game and 3 mid game players this is a paraphrase of what they said .
End game 1.) I like that hood and massacre won’t be synergy pieces anymore , hood wasn’t necessarily a side piece , but I liked that he could Spam SP2s back to back , Fate seal wasn’t something I used him for , but it was pointless to take out of his kit.
End Game 2.) I think best rework goes to Angela or Hood, Hoods damage is noticeably different , it was a drag to use him when I didn’t want to revive ghost .
End game 3 .) Did his prestige increase?
Mid Game 1.) I don’t own a Hood above a 4* , so I haven’t tested him out.
Mid game 2.) No one in our ally has talked about it yet, so I don’t know.
Mid game 3.) Hood got a buff? when ? is he good for 7.1 ? I liked him as a 4* back in the day and I didn’t think he needed a buff.
Bonus poll : MCOC elderly home interview and retirees : Group answer: “ Don’t trust Kabam”
They have PTSD like old war vets from 12.0 .
If you read it again, you’ll see that I mention magneto Still has a heal block, sure it’s a synergy now, but it’s also a passive now too. But he also reverses regen by default against metal champs, arguably making him better than just heal blocking, so stop saying that’s the same, it isn’t, he still has the old utility if you insist on having it.
You’re right, I don’t know anyone that wanted to use magneto to tank an SP3. They’d pick ghost, iceman or Luke Cage. If someone asked for ideas, magneto was never brought up as an option, but sure maybe someone somewhere did.
Good for you on using OML, I’m sure it was a thrilling time using him against mystics, I’ll go ahead and assume it wasn’t mystics with mystic dispersion given how he used to work.
Now for Hoods regen, I literally said the same thing, we don’t know if it’s working as intended yet, so I don’t know why you bothered bringing that up like I said different?
Finally, I stand by my point, the honeymoon phase will end and many will go back to using whoever they used to use for big damage. Quite frankly I don’t care either way if I’m right or wrong on the final point as my issue has always been the precedent this sets for future buffs, but of course you’ll just argue that it was supposedly set years ago with examples that aren’t really the same.
Is Hood a better champ now? No, because this isnt Hood. This is an entirely different champion. Everything that was Hood was reduced or taken away. It was an unwarranted overhual
His playstyle is completely different His strengths are completely different His weaknesses are completely different His uses in game are completely different What you're paying attention to in a fight is completely different The way his Invisibility is used is completely different His buff control was amazing and now it's inconsistent and unreliable (missing Hex but ALSO those unnecessarily short staggers) Heavy mechanic uses completely different
You might like whatever he is now, but it's not Hood. You like this new champion who also happens to wear a red hood. But Hood shouldn't have had to die to get it
exactly this is a completely new champ that has similar aspects of The Hood. This should be scary that Kabam did this because they may do this again to another champ that doesn't need an overhaul. Whether u like this or not Kabam shouldn't have changed Hood the way they did
Think about magneto, does anyone complained he is a complete new champ after the "BUFF" ?
This is so completely different. Magneto went from a horrible champ with no uses to an amazing champ with tons of uses.
Hood went from an above average champ with niche uses to an above average champ with no uses.
when did Hood became a above average champ before the buff I'm wondering how often will you bring him into the quest. Once or twice per month?
You’d think that someone with Ghost as their profile pic would understand how incredibly helpful it was to have Hood on your team in his former state.
I used my R2 6* Hood ALL THE TIME.
I R2 my hood as well, but I only bring him when I need the Ghost/Hood synergy. Since there are a lot better buff control champions than him.
I have to say, after the change he is much fun to play than it used be.
Lucky you, having all those buff control champs to choose from.
I don't believe he is the only buff control champions you got, useless you are still a progressing player. You don't have a single one of these champions: DR. Vodo, longshot, SS, morning star, mojo, ghost rider?
Now i can use my Hood more frequently and not for specific situations once per 6 months as before for the buffs control with fateseal even if he lost this ability, there are still 200 champions it is very naive to want everything at once in one character.
Even Aegon who is the strongest, in certain areas of the game he is not competent.
Before the changes my hood was lying around and I took him only once a year because of his fateseal ability but after update i can use him more than before.
Fateseal is nice to have but if i need to choice the old version or new version i will choice the new one with new mechanics and +200k burst damage, also now he can counter attack like ghost + you can parry while in invisible, + decent health steal and i hope its not a bug.
Mags lost hes ability to tank sp 3 + healblock = no panic
Old man logan lost hes passive regen = no panic
I gave fateseal in return i got much better invisibility ( in my opion ), decent regen / suicide friendly ( in my opininion ), nice burst damage with some fun mechanics ( in my opinion ) + better signature ability
1. Literally nobody used magneto, also you still have access to healblock if you want it, though if you’re using him against metal opponents as designed, you’re better off not having that synergy if regen is involved. 2. OML also wasn’t used before, either way, he didn’t lose his regen, it was just changed to a buff. Closest that is to Hood is to his stagger changes, the fate seal change isn’t the same. 3. The regen on hood might not even be intended so don’t go hyping him for that. 4. You’ll probably not even use hood once the honeymoon phase ends because others do burst damage better.
You don’t know who used magneto? For the SP3, you also don’t know who used him for healblock. It was a core mechanic of his that is no longer apart of his kit.
I used OML literally all the time , and I used him for TJ at buff against all tricky mystic champs.
We don’t know about hoods regen , but from reading it is working as intended some key wording changed his abilities.
Go on YouTube and read the comments, so many people are happy about this change because they can use him all over now. This forum only has small sample size of the Mcoc population.
I have plenty of end game friends and also friends who have just completed act 6 and they get their information and form their opinions through differ channels. I actually spoke to 3 end game and 3 mid game players this is a paraphrase of what they said .
End game 1.) I like that hood and massacre won’t be synergy pieces anymore , hood wasn’t necessarily a side piece , but I liked that he could Spam SP2s back to back , Fate seal wasn’t something I used him for , but it was pointless to take out of his kit.
End Game 2.) I think best rework goes to Angela or Hood, Hoods damage is noticeably different , it was a drag to use him when I didn’t want to revive ghost .
End game 3 .) Did his prestige increase?
Mid Game 1.) I don’t own a Hood above a 4* , so I haven’t tested him out.
Mid game 2.) No one in our ally has talked about it yet, so I don’t know.
Mid game 3.) Hood got a buff? when ? is he good for 7.1 ? I liked him as a 4* back in the day and I didn’t think he needed a buff.
Bonus poll : MCOC elderly home interview and retirees : Group answer: “ Don’t trust Kabam”
They have PTSD like old war vets from 12.0 .
Indeed, I keep seeing people complain about the feat seal removed, but I don't actually remember a pass that you can't do without Hood. And there are people say that they used Hood everyday before the buff, I just don't believe it.
As it has already been stated, much of the frustration isn’t just because of Hood losing fate seal, it’s because of the larger implications that action has and the precedent it sets. There are many mid-tier champs like Hood that people rank up for specific uses. This update removed a core piece of utility from a champ and thus limited the uses, thus having a negative impact on those who had him ranked. While he did gain some damage in the form of his new mechanic, the fact remains that his uses have now been limited and players who ranked him for his unique kit and utility are now at a loss, both in terms of options for specific uses and in terms of the resources spent. If they stick by this mindset going forward, we could see many mid-tier champs who aren’t at the very top of their respective classes, but yet have very useful pieces of utility, lose that utility in order to include shiny and new mechanics that overall decrease that champion’s uses. I find it very worrisome that perhaps in a couple months time a champ that I took up for a specific use could get a buff that gives them more damage while losing the reason I took them up in the first place.
Now i can use my Hood more frequently and not for specific situations once per 6 months as before for the buffs control with fateseal even if he lost this ability, there are still 200 champions it is very naive to want everything at once in one character.
Even Aegon who is the strongest, in certain areas of the game he is not competent.
Before the changes my hood was lying around and I took him only once a year because of his fateseal ability but after update i can use him more than before.
Fateseal is nice to have but if i need to choice the old version or new version i will choice the new one with new mechanics and +200k burst damage, also now he can counter attack like ghost + you can parry while in invisible, + decent health steal and i hope its not a bug.
Mags lost hes ability to tank sp 3 + healblock = no panic
Old man logan lost hes passive regen = no panic
I gave fateseal in return i got much better invisibility ( in my opion ), decent regen / suicide friendly ( in my opininion ), nice burst damage with some fun mechanics ( in my opinion ) + better signature ability
1. Literally nobody used magneto, also you still have access to healblock if you want it, though if you’re using him against metal opponents as designed, you’re better off not having that synergy if regen is involved. 2. OML also wasn’t used before, either way, he didn’t lose his regen, it was just changed to a buff. Closest that is to Hood is to his stagger changes, the fate seal change isn’t the same. 3. The regen on hood might not even be intended so don’t go hyping him for that. 4. You’ll probably not even use hood once the honeymoon phase ends because others do burst damage better.
You don’t know who used magneto? For the SP3, you also don’t know who used him for healblock. It was a core mechanic of his that is no longer apart of his kit.
I used OML literally all the time , and I used him for TJ at buff against all tricky mystic champs.
We don’t know about hoods regen , but from reading it is working as intended some key wording changed his abilities.
Go on YouTube and read the comments, so many people are happy about this change because they can use him all over now. This forum only has small sample size of the Mcoc population.
I have plenty of end game friends and also friends who have just completed act 6 and they get their information and form their opinions through differ channels. I actually spoke to 3 end game and 3 mid game players this is a paraphrase of what they said .
End game 1.) I like that hood and massacre won’t be synergy pieces anymore , hood wasn’t necessarily a side piece , but I liked that he could Spam SP2s back to back , Fate seal wasn’t something I used him for , but it was pointless to take out of his kit.
End Game 2.) I think best rework goes to Angela or Hood, Hoods damage is noticeably different , it was a drag to use him when I didn’t want to revive ghost .
End game 3 .) Did his prestige increase?
Mid Game 1.) I don’t own a Hood above a 4* , so I haven’t tested him out.
Mid game 2.) No one in our ally has talked about it yet, so I don’t know.
Mid game 3.) Hood got a buff? when ? is he good for 7.1 ? I liked him as a 4* back in the day and I didn’t think he needed a buff.
Bonus poll : MCOC elderly home interview and retirees : Group answer: “ Don’t trust Kabam”
They have PTSD like old war vets from 12.0 .
Heal block was a core mechanic of Magneto? Why was there no outrage over its removal? I had no idea he had heal block because only place where I used him was arena.
I am almost sure the regen in the updated Hood is a unintended interaction. But, I am willing to wait for Kabam to respond. He becomes a better champ if it stays, but I am not sure I will take him any further than R2.
Its an almost meaningless update for endgame players, we/they have counters other than Hood. The main issues are two fold. 1) Why was it removed since we can see that having it in sp2 will not be too OP? 2) What does it mean for future updates if simply removing an utility and giving some damage will appease the masses? Hood is more than a synergy piece now having decent damage, but you may need to bring in another mystic to deal with some annoying matchups in the future, which will be the real problem.
All fair points, the ending was just to show that people get their information all types of ways, not just the forum.
I think the reason why they removed it could have Possibly been a too strong of interaction with MD and his invisible mechanic, he could essentially stay invisible the entire fight and gain bullets and staggers the entire fight.
It could also be they simply thought fate seal was a redundant mechanic. There were only a few fate seals in the game . Strange, Symbiotic Suprme ; ghost rider , hood , SW , each of these fate seals are accessible through an SP3 except for hood. Two of those champs had reduced power gain , this makes me think that they know how powerful this mechanic is.
With fate seal on Hoods SP2 , you face this never ending loop of SP2s and you are invisible the whole time ; this would make him more potent than ghost in the game. This essentially renders the A.I pointless.
Hood doesn’t have power reduction which would make him more potent than Symbotic Supreme when buffs are involved.
Ghosting rider has to have his judgements reset in order to fate seal again.
It’s a powerful mechanic and something like that could bring hood to ridiculous power levels.
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As for the second point, he will most likely see a lot of use over the next week or so, as will the other three buffed champs, but most likely the interest will drop off once the hype dies down and people are finished testing the buffs and see each one’s uses and weaknesses.
Hood went from an above average champ with niche uses to an above average champ with no uses.
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How often would you use symb supreme? All same fights actually. So it is once per month, you'd say. Does it mean he should be reworked into generic average champ?
Secondly, they also need to look into the heavy as there have been multiple reports of gaining bullets from the heavy, as well as the sp2. That also needs to be tested, and then a decision needs to be made on that as well.
Finally, even though they did respond by saying they are looking at everyone’s feedback regarding Hood’s update, there has yet to be an official response to that. Most likely, they’ll probably try to include everything in one statement rather than make multiple different posts so that all the information is in the same place.
I have to say, after the change he is much fun to play than it used be.
Now he's just an above average damage dealer with a bit of buff control. You know who else has that? 50% of the Mystic class.
There were situations pre-buff where you'd use him over Doom, Claire, Kali, Magik, SS, but not anymore. Now he's just a damage dealer in a sea full of damage dealers.
I used OML literally all the time , and I used him for TJ at buff against all tricky mystic champs.
We don’t know about hoods regen , but from reading it is working as intended some key wording changed his abilities.
Go on YouTube and read the comments, so many people are happy about this change because they can use him all over now. This forum only has small sample size of the Mcoc population.
I have plenty of end game friends and also friends who have just completed act 6 and they get their information and form their opinions through differ channels. I actually spoke to 3 end game and 3 mid game players this is a paraphrase of what they said .
End game 1.) I like that hood and massacre won’t be synergy pieces anymore , hood wasn’t necessarily a side piece , but I liked that he could
Spam SP2s back to back , Fate seal wasn’t something I used him for , but it was pointless to take out of his kit.
End Game 2.) I think best rework goes to Angela or Hood, Hoods damage is noticeably different , it was a drag to use him when I didn’t want to revive ghost .
End game 3 .) Did his prestige increase?
Mid Game 1.) I don’t own a Hood above a 4* , so I haven’t tested him out.
Mid game 2.) No one in our ally has talked about it yet, so I don’t know.
Mid game 3.) Hood got a buff? when ? is he good for 7.1 ? I liked him as a 4* back in the day and I didn’t think he needed a buff.
Bonus poll : MCOC elderly home interview and retirees : Group answer: “ Don’t trust Kabam”
They have PTSD like old war vets from 12.0 .
I do hope this isn't just a one-way talk, but something really changes.
I am almost sure the regen in the updated Hood is a unintended interaction. But, I am willing to wait for Kabam to respond. He becomes a better champ if it stays, but I am not sure I will take him any further than R2.
Its an almost meaningless update for endgame players, we/they have counters other than Hood.
The main issues are two fold.
1) Why was it removed since we can see that having it in sp2 will not be too OP?
2) What does it mean for future updates if simply removing an utility and giving some damage will appease the masses?
Hood is more than a synergy piece now having decent damage, but you may need to bring in another mystic to deal with some annoying matchups in the future, which will be the real problem.
You’re right, I don’t know anyone that wanted to use magneto to tank an SP3. They’d pick ghost, iceman or Luke Cage. If someone asked for ideas, magneto was never brought up as an option, but sure maybe someone somewhere did.
Good for you on using OML, I’m sure it was a thrilling time using him against mystics, I’ll go ahead and assume it wasn’t mystics with mystic dispersion given how he used to work.
Now for Hoods regen, I literally said the same thing, we don’t know if it’s working as intended yet, so I don’t know why you bothered bringing that up like I said different?
Finally, I stand by my point, the honeymoon phase will end and many will go back to using whoever they used to use for big damage.
Quite frankly I don’t care either way if I’m right or wrong on the final point as my issue has always been the precedent this sets for future buffs, but of course you’ll just argue that it was supposedly set years ago with examples that aren’t really the same.
All fair points, the ending was just to show that people get their information all types of ways, not just the forum.
I think the reason why they removed it could have Possibly been a too strong of interaction with MD and his invisible mechanic, he could essentially stay invisible the entire fight and gain bullets and staggers the entire fight.
It could also be they simply thought fate seal was a redundant mechanic. There were only a few fate seals in the game . Strange, Symbiotic Suprme ; ghost rider , hood , SW , each of these fate seals are accessible through an SP3 except for hood. Two of those champs had reduced power gain , this makes me think that they know how powerful this mechanic is.
With fate seal on Hoods SP2 , you face this never ending loop of SP2s and you are invisible the whole time ; this would make him more potent than ghost in the game. This essentially renders the A.I pointless.
Hood doesn’t have power reduction which would make him more potent than Symbotic Supreme when buffs are involved.
Ghosting rider has to have his judgements reset in order to fate seal again.
It’s a powerful mechanic and something like that could bring hood to ridiculous power levels.