Advantage for Bifrost Side Event Overcompensation

GroundedWisdom

The_Sentry06 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Vendemiaire said:

GroundedWisdom said:

"He" is entitled to feel however he wants on the subject. I ain't losing any sleep over it. If people want to get righteously indignant because a small number of people have something not everyone does, by all means.
"Ah, but nobody ever said life was fair, Tina." -
Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford

If this guy is going for Thronebreaker (which I highly doubt because of his utter lack of skill), he'll also protest the extra 26% T5CC frags. He's always like this. He gets pumped when an issue affects him as he only cares for what affects him directly, otherwise he's just a loud troll.

What in the hell does going for Thronebreaker have to do with other people getting more? Honestly. You can take as many digs at me as you like, but some people got more through a glitch. It was unfortunate, but it happened. I'm waiting for Thronebreaker. Doesn't mean I'm crying for what others got through a mistake. Petitioning for the spoils of a glitch isn't in my wheelhouse. Is it that foreign of a concept to just be happy for people? No, that can't be possible.

26% extra t5cc could very well have pushed a summoner to thronebreaker. We understand that it's not the players fault and I hope no one blames the players. But there has to be some equality in place. It's not like Kabam can't do anything when they clearly can.

Okay. So? If the glitch pushed them, then great.

Pulyaman

The_Sentry06 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Vendemiaire said:

GroundedWisdom said:

"He" is entitled to feel however he wants on the subject. I ain't losing any sleep over it. If people want to get righteously indignant because a small number of people have something not everyone does, by all means.
"Ah, but nobody ever said life was fair, Tina." -
Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford

If this guy is going for Thronebreaker (which I highly doubt because of his utter lack of skill), he'll also protest the extra 26% T5CC frags. He's always like this. He gets pumped when an issue affects him as he only cares for what affects him directly, otherwise he's just a loud troll.

What in the hell does going for Thronebreaker have to do with other people getting more? Honestly. You can take as many digs at me as you like, but some people got more through a glitch. It was unfortunate, but it happened. I'm waiting for Thronebreaker. Doesn't mean I'm crying for what others got through a mistake. Petitioning for the spoils of a glitch isn't in my wheelhouse. Is it that foreign of a concept to just be happy for people? No, that can't be possible.

26% extra t5cc could very well have pushed a summoner to thronebreaker. We understand that it's not the players fault and I hope no one blames the players. But there has to be some equality in place. It's not like Kabam can't do anything when they clearly can.

They can definitely do it, there is no question about it. It all depends on the level of outrage we generate and the impact the glitch had overall. If the outrage is high and the impact is also high, I see them doing something.

Side point to everyone : Insulting others just because they don't agree with your view seems really silly. Some care more about the game and progress than others. I would love to have that extra 26% T5cc, but not really bothered that much. It's a point of view. There is no right or wrong view on this. So, please keep it civil and request/demand Kabam to respond because ultimately the fault lies with them and the resolution has to come from them.

winterthur

@JessieS said:

The_Sentry06 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Vendemiaire said:

GroundedWisdom said:

"He" is entitled to feel however he wants on the subject. I ain't losing any sleep over it. If people want to get righteously indignant because a small number of people have something not everyone does, by all means.
"Ah, but nobody ever said life was fair, Tina." -
Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford

If this guy is going for Thronebreaker (which I highly doubt because of his utter lack of skill), he'll also protest the extra 26% T5CC frags. He's always like this. He gets pumped when an issue affects him as he only cares for what affects him directly, otherwise he's just a loud troll.

What in the hell does going for Thronebreaker have to do with other people getting more? Honestly. You can take as many digs at me as you like, but some people got more through a glitch. It was unfortunate, but it happened. I'm waiting for Thronebreaker. Doesn't mean I'm crying for what others got through a mistake. Petitioning for the spoils of a glitch isn't in my wheelhouse. Is it that foreign of a concept to just be happy for people? No, that can't be possible.

26% extra t5cc could very well have pushed a summoner to thronebreaker. We understand that it's not the players fault and I hope no one blames the players. But there has to be some equality in place. It's not like Kabam can't do anything when they clearly can.

There is no equality in MCOC. Players who spend money clearly have an advantage over f2p players . Why should I care if some people get a benefit from a bug instead of by using cash ? I can certainly understand why Kabam would care since it would cut into their profits if this becomes more widespread but it doesn’t effect me in any way shape of form

If your game is at the level where Prestige is an important factor, then you may reconsider your view.

Sceptilemaniac

Any replies from the mods yet? Just a simple "We've raised this issue with the team and it's under discussion" would suffice. There are already very good arguments and suggestions in this thread itself.

Pulyaman

winterthur said:

@Pulyaman said:

SWORD78 said:

Pulyaman said:

StevieManWonder said:

An extra 26% t5cc is an insane amount to miss out on.

It is an insane amount to miss out on. There have been some good suggestions like putting a hard lock like 10 times so people who got the extra Uru don't run amok and get more t5cc. But, kabam will also look at the work vs reward ratio and if the number of people that got the extra is small enough, then they will not do anything.

People also bringing up the side event don't understand that the number of people who ran it multiple times would have been large enough for them to take action. We already have a precendent that they don't take action sometimes like the AG fiasco.

At the end of the day, should kabam take action? Yes. Will they? Don't think so. Do I care if they don't? No

This would be like if people who exploited Treasure Mutant Island and got a ton of 6* Shards and Fabulous Crystals with Units got to do this continuously and got to keep the rewards

Kabam usually don't bother with anything other than units. I am not sure, but I think the main problem with the side event was you could infinitely farm units which does cause problem for Kabam, which is why there was a ban. Other than that, I don't know if they have ever corrected a resource exploit in the game. I don't know how many people got these additional rewards, but if it is truly a lot, then hopefully Kabam will step up and limit the entries. But seeing that no one from Kabam has responded to this thread nor the original side event thread, I don't think they will.

I think this may help a little.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/16846/regarding-repeat-quest-rewards-exploit-clarification-added

I did not get your point. Even in that thread Miike has said it has to be a huge amount for them to take action. So, either we need to create a huge enough sound for them to notice, or the glitch to affect a high number of accounts for them to see it as a significant problem.

KRoNX1

Pulyaman said:

winterthur said:

@Pulyaman said:

SWORD78 said:

Pulyaman said:

StevieManWonder said:

An extra 26% t5cc is an insane amount to miss out on.

It is an insane amount to miss out on. There have been some good suggestions like putting a hard lock like 10 times so people who got the extra Uru don't run amok and get more t5cc. But, kabam will also look at the work vs reward ratio and if the number of people that got the extra is small enough, then they will not do anything.

People also bringing up the side event don't understand that the number of people who ran it multiple times would have been large enough for them to take action. We already have a precendent that they don't take action sometimes like the AG fiasco.

At the end of the day, should kabam take action? Yes. Will they? Don't think so. Do I care if they don't? No

This would be like if people who exploited Treasure Mutant Island and got a ton of 6* Shards and Fabulous Crystals with Units got to do this continuously and got to keep the rewards

Kabam usually don't bother with anything other than units. I am not sure, but I think the main problem with the side event was you could infinitely farm units which does cause problem for Kabam, which is why there was a ban. Other than that, I don't know if they have ever corrected a resource exploit in the game. I don't know how many people got these additional rewards, but if it is truly a lot, then hopefully Kabam will step up and limit the entries. But seeing that no one from Kabam has responded to this thread nor the original side event thread, I don't think they will.

I think this may help a little.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/16846/regarding-repeat-quest-rewards-exploit-clarification-added

I did not get your point. Even in that thread Miike has said it has to be a huge amount for them to take action. So, either we need to create a huge enough sound for them to notice, or the glitch to affect a high number of accounts for them to see it as a significant problem.

High or low amount, they should fix it. How fast they took action for the mutant treasure island situation. Now since this is there mistake, they r just ignoring it.

Pulyaman

KRoNX1 said:

Pulyaman said:

winterthur said:

@Pulyaman said:

SWORD78 said:

Pulyaman said:

StevieManWonder said:

An extra 26% t5cc is an insane amount to miss out on.

It is an insane amount to miss out on. There have been some good suggestions like putting a hard lock like 10 times so people who got the extra Uru don't run amok and get more t5cc. But, kabam will also look at the work vs reward ratio and if the number of people that got the extra is small enough, then they will not do anything.

People also bringing up the side event don't understand that the number of people who ran it multiple times would have been large enough for them to take action. We already have a precendent that they don't take action sometimes like the AG fiasco.

At the end of the day, should kabam take action? Yes. Will they? Don't think so. Do I care if they don't? No

This would be like if people who exploited Treasure Mutant Island and got a ton of 6* Shards and Fabulous Crystals with Units got to do this continuously and got to keep the rewards

Kabam usually don't bother with anything other than units. I am not sure, but I think the main problem with the side event was you could infinitely farm units which does cause problem for Kabam, which is why there was a ban. Other than that, I don't know if they have ever corrected a resource exploit in the game. I don't know how many people got these additional rewards, but if it is truly a lot, then hopefully Kabam will step up and limit the entries. But seeing that no one from Kabam has responded to this thread nor the original side event thread, I don't think they will.

I think this may help a little.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/16846/regarding-repeat-quest-rewards-exploit-clarification-added

I did not get your point. Even in that thread Miike has said it has to be a huge amount for them to take action. So, either we need to create a huge enough sound for them to notice, or the glitch to affect a high number of accounts for them to see it as a significant problem.

High or low amount, they should fix it. How fast they took action for the mutant treasure island situation. Now since this is there mistake, they r just ignoring it.

I have no idea how to explain this to you. Read what Miike said in the link above please.

Mr_Platypus

GroundedWisdom said:

Vendemiaire said:

GroundedWisdom said:

"He" is entitled to feel however he wants on the subject. I ain't losing any sleep over it. If people want to get righteously indignant because a small number of people have something not everyone does, by all means.
"Ah, but nobody ever said life was fair, Tina." -
Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford

If this guy is going for Thronebreaker (which I highly doubt because of his utter lack of skill), he'll also protest the extra 26% T5CC frags. He's always like this. He gets pumped when an issue affects him as he only cares for what affects him directly, otherwise he's just a loud troll.

What in the hell does going for Thronebreaker have to do with other people getting more? Honestly. You can take as many digs at me as you like, but some people got more through a glitch. It was unfortunate, but it happened. I'm waiting for Thronebreaker. Doesn't mean I'm crying for what others got through a mistake. Petitioning for the spoils of a glitch isn't in my wheelhouse. Is it that foreign of a concept to just be happy for people? No, that can't be possible.

The way you have to go against the general opinion of the thread is hilarious.
No matter what topic, you always, always go against the majority and try to claim you’re not there to troll.

Pulyaman

Mr_Platypus said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Vendemiaire said:

GroundedWisdom said:

"He" is entitled to feel however he wants on the subject. I ain't losing any sleep over it. If people want to get righteously indignant because a small number of people have something not everyone does, by all means.
"Ah, but nobody ever said life was fair, Tina." -
Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford

If this guy is going for Thronebreaker (which I highly doubt because of his utter lack of skill), he'll also protest the extra 26% T5CC frags. He's always like this. He gets pumped when an issue affects him as he only cares for what affects him directly, otherwise he's just a loud troll.

What in the hell does going for Thronebreaker have to do with other people getting more? Honestly. You can take as many digs at me as you like, but some people got more through a glitch. It was unfortunate, but it happened. I'm waiting for Thronebreaker. Doesn't mean I'm crying for what others got through a mistake. Petitioning for the spoils of a glitch isn't in my wheelhouse. Is it that foreign of a concept to just be happy for people? No, that can't be possible.

The way you have to go against the general opinion of the thread is hilarious.
No matter what topic, you always, always go against the majority and try to claim you’re not there to troll.

If this had happened 6 months back, I would have been as angry as everyone here. But, the game has become a little stale for me. I have no real interest in ranking up champs like I used to because all only things remaining for me are V6, V1, LOL and AOL exploration. I know I can explore V1, V6 and LOL without dipping into my units and AOL is something I am not going to touch for sometime due to time constraints. I am confident I can do the rest of the contents with my current roster of 5 stars.

I can understand his view point somewhat. To someone who has no interest in the race, it does not matter who gets what because you are only watching your own progress. It is irritating to see someone playing the devil's advocate every time, I will give you that.

KRoNX1

Pulyaman said:

KRoNX1 said:

Pulyaman said:

winterthur said:

@Pulyaman said:

SWORD78 said:

Pulyaman said:

StevieManWonder said:

An extra 26% t5cc is an insane amount to miss out on.

It is an insane amount to miss out on. There have been some good suggestions like putting a hard lock like 10 times so people who got the extra Uru don't run amok and get more t5cc. But, kabam will also look at the work vs reward ratio and if the number of people that got the extra is small enough, then they will not do anything.

People also bringing up the side event don't understand that the number of people who ran it multiple times would have been large enough for them to take action. We already have a precendent that they don't take action sometimes like the AG fiasco.

At the end of the day, should kabam take action? Yes. Will they? Don't think so. Do I care if they don't? No

This would be like if people who exploited Treasure Mutant Island and got a ton of 6* Shards and Fabulous Crystals with Units got to do this continuously and got to keep the rewards

Kabam usually don't bother with anything other than units. I am not sure, but I think the main problem with the side event was you could infinitely farm units which does cause problem for Kabam, which is why there was a ban. Other than that, I don't know if they have ever corrected a resource exploit in the game. I don't know how many people got these additional rewards, but if it is truly a lot, then hopefully Kabam will step up and limit the entries. But seeing that no one from Kabam has responded to this thread nor the original side event thread, I don't think they will.

I think this may help a little.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/16846/regarding-repeat-quest-rewards-exploit-clarification-added

I did not get your point. Even in that thread Miike has said it has to be a huge amount for them to take action. So, either we need to create a huge enough sound for them to notice, or the glitch to affect a high number of accounts for them to see it as a significant problem.

High or low amount, they should fix it. How fast they took action for the mutant treasure island situation. Now since this is there mistake, they r just ignoring it.

I have no idea how to explain this to you. Read what Miike said in the link above please.

Sry, i didnt read that 😅.

Renaxqq

I'm not 100% sure but when we got compensation back in 2020. July, some players got two compensation packages. I think they did nothing about it...🤷

IronGladiator22

GroundedWisdom said:

If the advantage was somehow game breaking or imbalancing, they would have taken action. It's not the end of all things just and holy if someone got extra.

I’m cavalier, and if I’m not mistaken, you are too. You can have your own opinions. I’m not trying to fight but all in going to say is that this isn’t as tony of an issue as you say it is. Multiple thousands of 5* shards, and 26% of random t5cc? That’s a TON of stuff. Didn’t Kabam have that whole speech about it breaking the game economy to have too much t5cc? Now they are just passing it out to random people and not trying to fix the issue?
Now the rewards might not help people in thronebreaker or up, but as a cavalier player, I can say that most cavalier and uncollected players would probably love the extra stuff. (Even if the uncollected player can’t access as much). I don’t have a problem with people getting more than me, I have a problem with people who are my skill level/ maybe even a skill level below me getting free rewards for no reason without earning them.

Kerneas

GroundedWisdom said:

If the advantage was somehow game breaking or imbalancing, they would have taken action. It's not the end of all things just and holy if someone got extra.

26% t5cc (13x 2%) is actually game breaking and imbalancing. 25% t5cc is a reward for completing Act 6 (although it's a selector vs random shards). One random t5cc is a reward for Abyss completion. So comparably speaking, 25% is gigantic.

Also, we are talking about the most valuable and sought-after resource in the current meta. Especially with the TB requirements, every player past Cav would kill for any part of t5cc, as it is the progression limiting factor. And when you look at the TB exclusivities, it is actually unfair for some to be able to get there faster, just because there was a small mistake at the start of one single event. T5cc are rare even in paid-for offers and Kabam tries to make it challenging to earn the shards.

BitterSteel

Mr_Platypus said:

zuffy said:

Mr_Platypus said:

GroundedWisdom said:

Vendemiaire said:

GroundedWisdom said:

"He" is entitled to feel however he wants on the subject. I ain't losing any sleep over it. If people want to get righteously indignant because a small number of people have something not everyone does, by all means.
"Ah, but nobody ever said life was fair, Tina." -
Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford

If this guy is going for Thronebreaker (which I highly doubt because of his utter lack of skill), he'll also protest the extra 26% T5CC frags. He's always like this. He gets pumped when an issue affects him as he only cares for what affects him directly, otherwise he's just a loud troll.

What in the hell does going for Thronebreaker have to do with other people getting more? Honestly. You can take as many digs at me as you like, but some people got more through a glitch. It was unfortunate, but it happened. I'm waiting for Thronebreaker. Doesn't mean I'm crying for what others got through a mistake. Petitioning for the spoils of a glitch isn't in my wheelhouse. Is it that foreign of a concept to just be happy for people? No, that can't be possible.

The way you have to go against the general opinion of the thread is hilarious.
No matter what topic, you always, always go against the majority and try to claim you’re not there to troll.

He is the contrarian troll. I just wish the forum has a block user option.

There’s a way to dim and compress all their responses, unfortunately it’s only really effective if they aren’t playing devils advocate repeatedly in the majority of threads

If people stop responding to his comments a lot fewer threads would be derailed talking about his “points”

The_Sentry06

For perspective, last months side quest gave a grand total of 10% of random t5cc. So, tell me it isn't huge that some people are getting an extra 26% t5cc in addition to this months normal t5cc reward?

IvarTheBoneless

GroundedWisdom said:

Vendemiaire said:

GroundedWisdom said:

"He" is entitled to feel however he wants on the subject. I ain't losing any sleep over it. If people want to get righteously indignant because a small number of people have something not everyone does, by all means.
"Ah, but nobody ever said life was fair, Tina." -
Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford

If this guy is going for Thronebreaker (which I highly doubt because of his utter lack of skill), he'll also protest the extra 26% T5CC frags. He's always like this. He gets pumped when an issue affects him as he only cares for what affects him directly, otherwise he's just a loud troll.

What in the hell does going for Thronebreaker have to do with other people getting more? Honestly. You can take as many digs at me as you like, but some people got more through a glitch. It was unfortunate, but it happened. I'm waiting for Thronebreaker. Doesn't mean I'm crying for what others got through a mistake. Petitioning for the spoils of a glitch isn't in my wheelhouse. Is it that foreign of a concept to just be happy for people? No, that can't be possible.

"my eyes are on my own plate"
"Is it that foreign of a concept to just be happy for people?"

Then why were you unhappy with the cavalier crystals from the side event. If your eyes are on your own plate you shouldn't care if you get 3 stars and others get 6 stars. Just be happy for them.

FiiNCH

I’m late to this thread, but to put it into perspective; going off some of the t5CC offers last month - some players will be earning up to £250 of extra resources. Which is outrageous.

Thecurler

Usually my view on things like this is who cares if people got some extra, fair play to them.
However, T5CC is currently the most rare and valuable resource in the game so this issue has the potential to affect war and AQ standings.
Whatever is going on with the quality control of this game needs drastic improvement.
The amount of bugs and issues with every release are just unacceptable.

IvarTheBoneless

FiiNCH said:

I’m late to this thread, but to put it into perspective; going off some of the t5CC offers last month - some players will be earning up to £250 of extra resources. Which is outrageous.

That is a lot. Hopefully enough for kabam to take action within the week.

Pulyaman

People discussing locking the limit of tier 10 needs to realize that Kabam has to lock every tier because every tier has valuable rewards depending on the progression level. If they lock only tier 10, people who got more can still play lower tiers which is still not fair. But, they cannot lock all the tiers because it defeats the purpose of the side eq, which is people can decide which is the best tier they can tackle and play that multiple times. Its a tricky little problem. Kabam has to do either,
1) Find who got more and take them away or
2) Find who got more and give everyone else the same amount to make it really fair.
Or simply do nothing and let people forget it once the new content comes.

Draconic_12

Usually I don't push for Compensation.
But, for us and the other players who are missing out on the rewards, we should receive some feathers or Uru so we can get the same rewards.

Pulyaman

Zan0 said:

Pulyaman said:

People discussing locking the limit of tier 10 needs to realize that Kabam has to lock every tier because every tier has valuable rewards depending on the progression level. If they lock only tier 10, people who got more can still play lower tiers which is still not fair. But, they cannot lock all the tiers because it defeats the purpose of the side eq, which is people can decide which is the best tier they can tackle and play that multiple times. Its a tricky little problem. Kabam has to do either,
1) Find who got more and take them away or
2) Find who got more and give everyone else the same amount to make it really fair.
Or simply do nothing and let people forget it once the new content comes.

The people who can run these upper tiers like myself don't care if people get extras of resources that aren't game breaking. The tier 10 rewards are the only thing that is game breaking so it is totally reasonable to lock it after a certain amount of run throughs

What about the things others care about? There are thousands of people playing in multiple levels who value different resources. That was my point. Even top tier players want T1 alpha or T4 basics which could be farmed in the side event. This 26% t5cc is no where near game breaking. People are talking about fair rewards.

Pulyaman

JoshKosh557 said:

Lol grounded isnt even thronebreaker after playing this long

What's that got to do with this thread? People play at their own pace mate. It's a game at the end of the day. I have seen people who are not even uncollected after playing for years. Let's keep it on topic

KRoNX1

Pulyaman said:

Zan0 said:

Pulyaman said:

People discussing locking the limit of tier 10 needs to realize that Kabam has to lock every tier because every tier has valuable rewards depending on the progression level. If they lock only tier 10, people who got more can still play lower tiers which is still not fair. But, they cannot lock all the tiers because it defeats the purpose of the side eq, which is people can decide which is the best tier they can tackle and play that multiple times. Its a tricky little problem. Kabam has to do either,
1) Find who got more and take them away or
2) Find who got more and give everyone else the same amount to make it really fair.
Or simply do nothing and let people forget it once the new content comes.

The people who can run these upper tiers like myself don't care if people get extras of resources that aren't game breaking. The tier 10 rewards are the only thing that is game breaking so it is totally reasonable to lock it after a certain amount of run throughs

What about the things others care about? There are thousands of people playing in multiple levels who value different resources. That was my point. Even top tier players want T1 alpha or T4 basics which could be farmed in the side event. This 26% t5cc is no where near game breaking. People are talking about fair rewards.

Yeah. Those 5* shards in t9 is really valuable for me and i am pretty confident that i can complete it easily.

Corkscrew

Pulyaman said:

What about the things others care about? There are thousands of people playing in multiple levels who value different resources. That was my point. Even top tier players want T1 alpha or T4 basics which could be farmed in the side event. This 26% t5cc is no where near game breaking. People are talking about fair rewards.

But they don't charge through the nose for T1A and T4B.

Additionally, there are a multitude of ways to get T1A and T4B and very few ways to get T5CC. T5CC can only be obtained at the highest levels of content, TB Glory store.

T1A has arena, low level EQ, solo crystals, glory store, lower map AQ
T4B has arena, low level EQ, daily quest, glory store, TB daily crystals, AQ.

Literally no top tier player is going to farm T1A and give up even one 2% T5CC crystal if they had the option.

Pulyaman

HI_guys said:

Pulyaman said:

JoshKosh557 said:

Lol grounded isnt even thronebreaker after playing this long

What's that got to do with this thread? People play at their own pace mate. It's a game at the end of the day. I have seen people who are not even uncollected after playing for years. Let's keep it on topic

It matters to the extend that he does not know the value of t5cc. Nothing wrong in not being Thronebreaker but that does not stop him from assessing the value of t5cc

Well, he is cavalier and he needs T5cc to get throne breaker. That's a huge assumption to make that he does not value T5cc. From what I have seen, he simply bats for the status quo most of the time except the one time with the matchmaking change. But, my point was we were talking about how this can be rectified and will kabam do what it takes or is it that game breaking to warrant kabam taking action. Arguing and targeting anyone is a surefire way to get the thread closed down. (Kingpin rage debuff come to mind).