*Guardian doesn’t receive any thorn damage from Korg because all his basic attacks are energy-based;
*With Diss Track node (-100% damage if there are less than 3 debuffs on opponents), Havok’s SP3 won’t deal any damage because once you fire the SP3, the plasma debuffs on opponents would be removed immediately. Those plasma debuffs are not removed afterwards.
*As long as G-Hulk’s “Face Me” is activated, you can comfortably push the opponents to their SP3 and take it because G-Hulk could heal back right after that SP3. This strategy is pretty useful when you’re using G-Hulk to fight Mephisto, Magik, Ice Man, or any other champs that could easily trigger passive DOT, and there are power gain node on them.
Havok is the best Havok counter Ronin is a fantastic Thing counter iHulk is very stressful to play, but his immortality mechanic is a godsend in AW If you think the Corvus Timeout method is amazing, you clearly never tried the Horseman Wolvie Timeout. Never need to use a potion in AQ again.
Not really underrated, it's a 1% heal that is really hard to active
It's not that hard. You just need to time your idle right
I tried it against a DDHK before due to his long sp1 and I could barely get it just for a single percent of health
DDHKs sp1 isn't good to do it against since you need to dashback alot to not get struck. Champs with long idle time right after their specials is best to use it with
Sentry probably has the third best indestructible mechanic in the game.
who are you going with for top 2? there's luke cage, cmm, phoenix, kilmonger.
Luke Cage and Killmonger for top 2. At max sig, Sentry's indestructible is pretty much on command, whenever you want it as long as you're not in the first phase. Plus bonus points for being a passive as well.
Sentry probably has the third best indestructible mechanic in the game.
who are you going with for top 2? there's luke cage, cmm, phoenix, kilmonger.
I'd say
1. Killmonger cuz it's easy to get, last till you get hit, works vs SP3s (some other champs like Terrax it doesn't help VS SP3s) and it he multiple ways to happen (synergy and SP2). 2. Luke Cage cuz it's just there chilling waiting to be used and at max or high sig it's very reliable 3. CMM Cuz it's just so good and makes her more into a wrecking ball when she enters her binary. 4. Mephisto cuz it's not only indestructible but also a damn good regen. Sadly it's only once so he doesn't go higher on the list. But it's sure is a good one.
Other champs with synergies make the list also like OG Hulk and Thing both have great ones.
Also to contribute to the thread. Alot of people know but some don't. Perfect block adds to parry stun time and can counter limber nodes with enough perfect block chance (I think it's around 15% or so to be able to always counter attack even vs Limber after any amount of parries).
Havok is the best Havok counter Ronin is a fantastic Thing counter iHulk is very stressful to play, but his immortality mechanic is a godsend in AW If you think the Corvus Timeout method is amazing, you clearly never tried the Horseman Wolvie Timeout. Never need to use a potion in AQ again.
Idk Warlock is at his best against Havok. He completely dominates that matchup
Can you explain the Corvus/Wolverine timeout method a bit? Im not familiar
Havok is the best Havok counter Ronin is a fantastic Thing counter iHulk is very stressful to play, but his immortality mechanic is a godsend in AW If you think the Corvus Timeout method is amazing, you clearly never tried the Horseman Wolvie Timeout. Never need to use a potion in AQ again.
Idk Warlock is at his best against Havok. He completely dominates that matchup
Can you explain the Corvus/Wolverine timeout method a bit? Im not familiar
If you get Armor Broken against Havok using Warlock, you're gonna take the detonation damage. If you get armor broken against Havok using Havok, it's just more free healing. Colossus is also better than Warlock for Havok for this reason. Granted, there aren't many times when you are fighting Havok that you will be armor broken, but it does happen.
With the Corvus Timeout, you timeout with 1 HP left and either need to use potions to heal up before reentering or play super carefully to avoid taking even a blocked hit. With Wolverine (Horseman or otherwise) you can time out with 1 HP and heal back up to full health in a few hits. Because he heals so much, you can timeout whenever you want and just heal back to full the next fight. I don't often need to timeout in AQ, but when I do, I usually timeout when Wolvie is at 10% so I can start with a parry or withstand the Degen (I take the degen paths) until my regen activates. A simpler way to put it is that the Corvus method lets you get around the timeout penalty whereas the Wolvie method lets you completely ignore the timeout penalty.
*Guardian doesn’t receive any thorn damage from Korg because all his basic attacks are energy-based;
*With Diss Track node (-100% damage if there are less than 3 debuffs on opponents), Havok’s SP3 won’t deal any damage because once you fire the SP3, the plasma debuffs on opponents would be removed immediately. Those plasma debuffs are not removed afterwards.
*As long as G-Hulk’s “Face Me” is activated, you can comfortably push the opponents to their SP3 and take it because G-Hulk could heal back right after that SP3. This strategy is pretty useful when you’re using G-Hulk to fight Mephisto, Magik, Ice Man, or any other champs that could easily trigger passive DOT, and there are power gain node on them.
You need heimdall on your team to survive the sp3 if you are using gulk since act 6 defenders mostly will kill you if you push to their sp3. Also, I dont think Iceman activates face me since coldsnap is not passive and frostbite is not a DOT.
Sentry probably has the third best indestructible mechanic in the game.
who are you going with for top 2? there's luke cage, cmm, phoenix, kilmonger.
I'd say
1. Killmonger cuz it's easy to get, last till you get hit, works vs SP3s (some other champs like Terrax it doesn't help VS SP3s) and it he multiple ways to happen (synergy and SP2). 2. Luke Cage cuz it's just there chilling waiting to be used and at max or high sig it's very reliable 3. CMM Cuz it's just so good and makes her more into a wrecking ball when she enters her binary. 4. Mephisto cuz it's not only indestructible but also a damn good regen. Sadly it's only once so he doesn't go higher on the list. But it's sure is a good one.
Other champs with synergies make the list also like OG Hulk and Thing both have great ones.
Also to contribute to the thread. Alot of people know but some don't. Perfect block adds to parry stun time and can counter limber nodes with enough perfect block chance (I think it's around 15% or so to be able to always counter attack even vs Limber after any amount of parries).
CMM I can understand but Mephisto above Sentry is crazy
And here I thought I was an iHulk expert. I still have so much to learn from Prof Hoff...
Are we ignoring the fact that iHulk wasn't triggering No Retreat and that's why he wasn't getting the Degen? He never dashed back twice in a row to trigger it. Edit: I guess that's the joke
And here I thought I was an iHulk expert. I still have so much to learn from Prof Hoff...
Are we ignoring the fact that iHulk wasn't triggering No Retreat and that's why he wasn't getting the Degen? He never dashed back twice in a row to trigger it. Edit: I guess that's the joke
Havok is the best Havok counter Ronin is a fantastic Thing counter iHulk is very stressful to play, but his immortality mechanic is a godsend in AW If you think the Corvus Timeout method is amazing, you clearly never tried the Horseman Wolvie Timeout. Never need to use a potion in AQ again.
I wouldn't call it a godsend in war, in fact its very risky due to the assasins mastery, I would never assign an Ihulk in war.
Havok is the best Havok counter Ronin is a fantastic Thing counter iHulk is very stressful to play, but his immortality mechanic is a godsend in AW If you think the Corvus Timeout method is amazing, you clearly never tried the Horseman Wolvie Timeout. Never need to use a potion in AQ again.
I wouldn't call it a godsend in war, in fact its very risky due to the assasins mastery, I would never assign an Ihulk in war.
Oh shoot, I totally forgot about the Assassin's mastery. That's why my Unblockable failed to proc this morning. I thought it was just a bug with the persistent charges. That's a good point, I should probably stop bringing him in.
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You just need to time your idle right
*With Diss Track node (-100% damage if there are less than 3 debuffs on opponents), Havok’s SP3 won’t deal any damage because once you fire the SP3, the plasma debuffs on opponents would be removed immediately. Those plasma debuffs are not removed afterwards.
*As long as G-Hulk’s “Face Me” is activated, you can comfortably push the opponents to their SP3 and take it because G-Hulk could heal back right after that SP3. This strategy is pretty useful when you’re using G-Hulk to fight Mephisto, Magik, Ice Man, or any other champs that could easily trigger passive DOT, and there are power gain node on them.
'Gotta go fast' after you use his sp1
1. Killmonger cuz it's easy to get, last till you get hit, works vs SP3s (some other champs like Terrax it doesn't help VS SP3s) and it he multiple ways to happen (synergy and SP2).
2. Luke Cage cuz it's just there chilling waiting to be used and at max or high sig it's very reliable
3. CMM Cuz it's just so good and makes her more into a wrecking ball when she enters her binary.
4. Mephisto cuz it's not only indestructible but also a damn good regen. Sadly it's only once so he doesn't go higher on the list. But it's sure is a good one.
Other champs with synergies make the list also like OG Hulk and Thing both have great ones.
Also to contribute to the thread. Alot of people know but some don't. Perfect block adds to parry stun time and can counter limber nodes with enough perfect block chance (I think it's around 15% or so to be able to always counter attack even vs Limber after any amount of parries).
Can you explain the Corvus/Wolverine timeout method a bit? Im not familiar
With the Corvus Timeout, you timeout with 1 HP left and either need to use potions to heal up before reentering or play super carefully to avoid taking even a blocked hit. With Wolverine (Horseman or otherwise) you can time out with 1 HP and heal back up to full health in a few hits. Because he heals so much, you can timeout whenever you want and just heal back to full the next fight. I don't often need to timeout in AQ, but when I do, I usually timeout when Wolvie is at 10% so I can start with a parry or withstand the Degen (I take the degen paths) until my regen activates.
A simpler way to put it is that the Corvus method lets you get around the timeout penalty whereas the Wolvie method lets you completely ignore the timeout penalty.
Edit: I guess that's the joke