Why are AW resources so expensive???

A normal health pot is 10K health for 28 units. In AW you get 9500 health for 80 units. That's almost 3x cost for less health. Why? A team revive to fight GrandMaster costs 100 units for 5 champs. A team revive to fight AW boss costs 360 units for 3 champs. Almost 4x cost. Why? In light of some of the future road map plans seems lowering these costs would be an easy QoL boost to this game mode.

The current scaling would make sense if AW was primary mode of the game and the rewards justified the extra investment. But as it stands seems they should either lower costs to be in line w resource costs in rest of the game, or bump rewards to justify investment (or continue to lose community interest in the game mode). I enjoy the competitive aspect of AW, and fighting w your ally mates as a team, but it's increasingly difficult to justify the costs vs the payoff in comparison to other modes of the game.

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StevieManWonder

Also, the revives for AW and AQ suck. They need to be switched to percentage based, not flat values. It's ridiculous that a lvl 1 revive only gives me 350 health. For my 6r3s, that's not even 1% of their health.

Terra

To make more money.

This.
It also takes money to be competitive at the highest levels or grind like a no lifer.

Tru100

Also, the revives for AW and AQ suck. They need to be switched to percentage based, not flat values. It's ridiculous that a lvl 1 revive only gives me 350 health. For my 6r3s, that's not even 1% of their health.

This too. Those 350 health pots are silly, borderline trolling us.

Wrt making money. They lowered pot costs in rest of the game, they should have done it in AW too. I think people will end up spending the units elsewhere, so doesn't affect their bottom line, just hurts that particular game mode. Lowered resource costs can only boost interest and engagement, maybe they end up making more $ via higher volume/participation. Worth a shot.

RaviDavi

The incursions pots are terrible as well, who's ever going to buy revives in there? Only if you're far into sector 8 maybe but the cost isn't worth the reward.

& the only real use I have for those lvl 1 alliance revives is to make G2099 auto heal up to 40%.

danielmath

while the resources are not technically cheaper then before, the massive nerfing of war does reduce the cost a ton, so in a way pots/revives are way cheaper then before

DNA3000

To make more money.

To be fair, there's no way Kabam is making all that much money from AW. There's just not enough hard core competitive alliances compared to the revenue they make from everywhere else. Those things are expensive to basically make it hard to buy wins. And to be honest, in lower tier war they do function as a thing people generally don't like to use unless it is both necessary and potentially war altering, so they are getting the most bang for buck. But in the highest tiers of war, the intensity of competition is such that they are completely non-optional, and just become a high cost of entry. That's a player-driven meta that is encouraged by some subtle and not so subtle design choices in Alliance War that make it the Suckiest Game Mode.

Worknprogress

while the resources are not technically cheaper then before, the massive nerfing of war does reduce the cost a ton, so in a way pots/revives are way cheaper then before

I think I've used like 3 or 4 pots this season

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Bugmat78

Make pots and revives percentage based throughout the game. Everything else is illogical BS to be honest.

DNA3000

Alliance war would be so much better if boosts and healing were free. Removes most stress and Kabam can make it as challenging as they want

The unintended side effect of this could be that Kabam makes war "challenging" by making everything hit so hard they kill you instantly. Because with healing being free, no amount of damage that doesn't kill you means anything anymore. So war fights can't be fights of attrition, because there is no attrition. If two alliances have players that can solo every fight, even if they escape with only a sliver of health, that's a tie in the making. So Kabam could be compelled to crank up attack values higher and higher until every fight had a very good chance of killing you.

That would not make war less stressful. The stress comes from dying, or the risk of dying, because dying can cost your alliance the entire war. Nobody wants to be the one that dies, so everyone pushes harder and harder using every tool at their disposal to not die. And then Kabam decides to "help" the situation by making war fights more threatening so more people die. Instead of being relieved that everyone is dying, people face even more stress trying even harder to not die in the face of even higher levels of threat.

Not everyone feels this way, of course. This is something that many people feel to lesser degrees across all tiers, and some of the top tier players feel more intensely. But of course the people who aren't susceptible to this kind of thinking also don't generally have stress related problems that need solving in AW.

The potions themselves are not a problem. It is the psychology surrounding them that is the problem. If potions cost that much in normal content, people would just not buy them. They would find other ways to do content. War is different because wars are conducted by alliances, and players that have no issue with simply failing content and trying again often face a lot more pressure to not let down other players. No matter what potions cost, as long as war is basically a contest to find the weakest link on the opposing alliance and squeezing him or her until they pop, war will always be far more stressful than probably intended. Take an avenue of that stress away, like potion cost, and it will move somewhere else, because Kabam will change war to ensure that point of stress will rematerialize, because that's currently how Kabam chooses to determine war winners. Find the weakest link, and break it.