R3 BWCV or Sorcerer Supreme?

Polygon

No Suicides.

Claire needs them somewhat for damage but still has better buff control, but already have doom. Was thinking sorcerer not for any specific mystic like abilities but to tank specials that are hard to evade.

BitterSteel

Sorcerer Supreme

If you have suicides Claire, if not then sorcerer is the general rule I go for when comparing these two. Since you don’t have suicides I’d say sorcerer

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Polygon

Interesting, more are voting Claire even though I stated no suicides.

Charlie21540

Claire Voiyant

GagoH said:

Interesting, more are voting Claire even though I stated no suicides.

I dont have suicides and have a r3 6* claire, and she is by far one of my most used champs in the game. Whether its AW, AQ, EQ, Story content, Variants. I honestly use her more than my Doom

BitterSteel

Sorcerer Supreme

GagoH said:

Interesting, more are voting Claire even though I stated no suicides.

She’s still awesome without suicides, obviously just less damage. Claire’s damage isn’t the selling point for her though, she’s an absolute machine for utility and she’s so usable in so many different situations.

It’s definitely a personal choice and you really can’t go wrong with either. For me, Sorcerer is just a more fun champ to play and with those armour breaks her damage is just that little bit higher. Utility wise they are both evenly matched, but do different things.

Either way you’ll have a fantastic mystic champion!

Kerneas

Sorcerer Supreme

I am so much in love w SS, that I would rank her over Claire anytime

No_oneuk

Sorcerer Supreme

have both claire and SS at rank 5 5 star, have both as 6 star. but one is going to rank 3 first, and she's very blue she does far more for my game than claire does (both are great but sorcerer just reaches higher and further tbh).

Heattblastt

Sorcerer Supreme

I am in the same boat. I like SS more but Claire has cleared more content for me..... I am so confused that I am not ranking any of them till I absolutely need one of those to clear the content......

AGYAAT

If you know what you want then you will never ask this question,
And if you don't know what you want then why are you even bothering yourself to make a choice right now?

Claire has a huge fan base so even if you tell them you need a champion for slow debuff & sustainability, still they will vote for Claire by saying that she can nullify unstoppable buff easily and if you worried about block damage then use her sp2 regeneration with some attack boost

AGYAAT

And if you have doom and you Also don't run Suicides so why you think that r3 Claire will be more useful then r2 for whatever she can do

BitterSteel

Sorcerer Supreme

AGYAAT said:

If you know what you want then you will never ask this question,
And if you don't know what you want then why are you even bothering yourself to make a choice right now?

Claire has a huge fan base so even if you tell them you need a champion for slow debuff & sustainability, still they will vote for Claire by saying that she can nullify unstoppable buff easily and if you worried about block damage then use her sp2 regeneration with some attack boost

Good luck trying to get Claire nullifying a passive unstoppable lol

AGYAAT

BitterSteel said:

AGYAAT said:

If you know what you want then you will never ask this question,
And if you don't know what you want then why are you even bothering yourself to make a choice right now?

Claire has a huge fan base so even if you tell them you need a champion for slow debuff & sustainability, still they will vote for Claire by saying that she can nullify unstoppable buff easily and if you worried about block damage then use her sp2 regeneration with some attack boost

Good luck trying to get Claire nullifying a passive unstoppable lol

You got that point because you have voted sorcerer, but if were a blind supporter of Claire then you wouldn't even think about passive unstoppables

BitterSteel

Sorcerer Supreme

AGYAAT said:

BitterSteel said:

AGYAAT said:

If you know what you want then you will never ask this question,
And if you don't know what you want then why are you even bothering yourself to make a choice right now?

Claire has a huge fan base so even if you tell them you need a champion for slow debuff & sustainability, still they will vote for Claire by saying that she can nullify unstoppable buff easily and if you worried about block damage then use her sp2 regeneration with some attack boost

Good luck trying to get Claire nullifying a passive unstoppable lol

You got that point because you have voted sorcerer, but if were a blind supporter of Claire then you wouldn't even think about passive unstoppables

Yah I’m agreeing with you mate

Polygon

What’s the rotation? Seems like getting the perma rune off the sp3 is the best first step , then sp2 spam for armor break. Sp1 if you want to get rid of annoying buffs or if the regen is about to expire.

sp3 in the last phase if you need the slow, and everywhere else raggador phase for the regen off block

San_Dolo

Sorcerer Supreme

I got both as 6* and decided to go with Sorc Sup. Even used a mystic AG and poured lot of sig stones as well. Just love her play style. If you like playing defensive, she is one of the best options out there along with Guardian and Cap IW.

I tend to stick to sp1 as much as possible in war. Maybe because I usually play very scared!!

Annihilus boss one shot with her:
https://1drv.ms/v/s!AkTIk2a_NiEPpUdiMcvlHPffrkAz

BuggyDClown

Sorcerer Supreme

I would r3 ber over BWCV without suicides any day. Her damage is very good and have very good utilities and at r3 you will noticed changes

AGYAAT

GagoH said:

What’s the rotation? Seems like getting the perma rune off the sp3 is the best first step , then sp2 spam for armor break. Sp1 if you want to get rid of annoying buffs or if the regen is about to expire.

sp3 in the last phase if you need the slow, and everywhere else raggador phase for the regen off block

I think there is no need to use sp3 in most of the content, because damage phase (armor break) comes just after power gain phase (where he will gain enough power for sp2 if you are not using sp1) so can easily stack armor break runes and it's also applied on slow debuff rune.. I usually can stack 2 debuffs of armor break and slow (one debuff can be stack up to 3) but is hard to maintain regeneration rune because then you need to switch your modes manually and then you will not able to stack armor breaks because regeneration rune comes just before armor break rune..

I don't use sp3 unless I need want to stack more than 3 armor break debuffs or need regeneration + damage + slow debuffs at same time
Maybe you won't get my point but you will feel that thing when you use her more in various situation

IcePick

Claire Voiyant

Claire is better, even without suicides. With suicides she is better than DR Doom (because the recoil drains him too easily). Even the famous top 15 champ and Seatin lists rank BWCV higher

The key is that if you want healing stay in the bleed immunity. If you want maximum damage go to the incinerate damage.

Had her at 15 percent health the other day finishing exploring some story quests. Within 2 fights she was back at 70 percent health. Just phenomenal healing.

pseudosane

Claire Voiyant

i have an r3 claire no suicides. A mainstay in war attack over doom for past two seasons.