Ronin Changes

Masterpuff

Uhhhhhh this may be the smallest and most useless buff ever, maybe even more so than Nova.

I mean he didnt need it, but this seems like Kabam noticed 2 days before the update “Whoops we didnt do an update” and they chose to do almost nothing to Ronin.

Kinda annoying but I still love him

(and he is still better than Elsa)

Crcrcrc

Yeah, this one kind of sucks. Disappointing

Masterpuff

WAIT WHAT THE **** THEY ADDED A COOLDOWN TO HIM ON CRUELTY VS BLEED IMMUNE

DualityCope

This buff is not it

MrInsanity

Maybe wait to try him? surely Kabam wouldn't mess up a buff for the third time (counting Hood and Nova)

No_oneuk

This feels kinda like the human torch buff tbh. Maybe even smaller.

SpideyFunko

the cooldown to his cruelty vs bleed immune champs baffles me

ItsDamien

Link?

pseudosane

yeah where is the link?

MrInsanity

Check Lagacys video

BitterSteel

MrInsanity said:

Maybe wait to try him?

Not this again

Masterpuff

MrInsanity said:

Maybe wait to try him? surely Kabam wouldn't mess up a buff for the third time (counting Hood and Nova)

As a Ronin master i can confirm i am very pissed off.

He got:
Slightly more damage(SMALL), less cruelty buildup vs bleed immune, shorter furies that are a tiny bit more potent, aar that still kinda sucks, and a slightly better sig.

The_Sentry06

Meh another lazy buff. Those who liked him before will still like him but those who didn't won't use him now.

Please Kabam stop these lazy buffs. You could have added most of this through a synergy or something.

MrInsanity

BitterSteel said:

MrInsanity said:

Maybe wait to try him?

Not this again

just trying to be optimistic Good thing this buff doesn't affect me anyways

BitterSteel

The_Sentry06 said:

Meh another lazy buff. Those who liked him before will still like him but those who didn't won't use him now.

Please Kabam stop these lazy buffs. You could have added this through a synergy.

I miss tune ups like Angela’s. Tune ups don’t need to be this little, they can transform champions but kabam keep playing it safe and keeping it small.

I don’t necessarily mind updates like that, but it just leaves me a bit like eh, ok? I’m still not gonna really use them.

Angela’s tune up was exciting. This isn’t.

Masterpuff

BitterSteel said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Meh another lazy buff. Those who liked him before will still like him but those who didn't won't use him now.

Please Kabam stop these lazy buffs. You could have added this through a synergy.

I miss tune ups like Angela’s. Tune ups don’t need to be this little, they can transform champions but kabam keep playing it safe and keeping it small.

I don’t necessarily mind updates like that, but it just leaves me a bit like eh, ok? I’m still not gonna really use them.

Angela’s tune up was exciting. This isn’t.

I saw something floating around that was increased sp3 fury duration, some more aar, and no miss when he had a cruelty. But this… Is worthless.

ItsDamien

Okay yeah I just saw the buff notes.

I get doing value updates is the quickest and easiest method of giving a champ extra, but Kabam really need to think about what that "extra" is. This is so minor that it's almost not worth marketing as a buff.

BitterSteel

Masterpuff said:

BitterSteel said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Meh another lazy buff. Those who liked him before will still like him but those who didn't won't use him now.

Please Kabam stop these lazy buffs. You could have added this through a synergy.

I miss tune ups like Angela’s. Tune ups don’t need to be this little, they can transform champions but kabam keep playing it safe and keeping it small.

I don’t necessarily mind updates like that, but it just leaves me a bit like eh, ok? I’m still not gonna really use them.

Angela’s tune up was exciting. This isn’t.

I saw something floating around that was increased sp3 fury duration, some more aar, and no miss when he had a cruelty. But this… Is worthless.

What are your early thoughts on better or worse, I know there’s the cooldown now which makes cruelties worse against bleed immune, but overall would you say he’s got better, worse, or have they just taken him sideways? (As in, better at one part at the expense of another)

The_Sentry06

BitterSteel said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Meh another lazy buff. Those who liked him before will still like him but those who didn't won't use him now.

Please Kabam stop these lazy buffs. You could have added this through a synergy.

I miss tune ups like Angela’s. Tune ups don’t need to be this little, they can transform champions but kabam keep playing it safe and keeping it small.

I don’t necessarily mind updates like that, but it just leaves me a bit like eh, ok? I’m still not gonna really use them.

Angela’s tune up was exciting. This isn’t.

Yea many of us are more excited for the buffs than champion releases mainly cuz most of the champion releases have been disappointing. Then Kabam comes out with these buffs which is meh. I mean Ronin is already good but if you chose to take another champions place who actually need tune-ups and buff an already decent champion, atleast do it properly.

Bendy

BitterSteel said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Meh another lazy buff. Those who liked him before will still like him but those who didn't won't use him now.

Please Kabam stop these lazy buffs. You could have added this through a synergy.

I miss tune ups like Angela’s. Tune ups don’t need to be this little, they can transform champions but kabam keep playing it safe and keeping it small.

I don’t necessarily mind updates like that, but it just leaves me a bit like eh, ok? I’m still not gonna really use them.

Angela’s tune up was exciting. This isn’t.

We need more tune ups like this even if the champs are good just adding things will be so nice where even though small like angela it would seem huge when playing

Kill_Grey

No_oneuk said:

This feels kinda like the human torch buff tbh. Maybe even smaller.

Torch's update was pretty needed ngl. Just that little tweak to his temperature gain actually made him to what he is today and allows him to charge his temperature around limber mastery, making him a staple in war.

BitterSteel

The_Sentry06 said:

BitterSteel said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Meh another lazy buff. Those who liked him before will still like him but those who didn't won't use him now.

Please Kabam stop these lazy buffs. You could have added this through a synergy.

I miss tune ups like Angela’s. Tune ups don’t need to be this little, they can transform champions but kabam keep playing it safe and keeping it small.

I don’t necessarily mind updates like that, but it just leaves me a bit like eh, ok? I’m still not gonna really use them.

Angela’s tune up was exciting. This isn’t.

Yea many of us are more excited for the buffs than champion releases mainly cuz most of the champion releases have been disappointing. Then Kabam comes out with these buffs which is meh. I mean Ronin is already good but if you chose to take another champions place who actually need tune-ups and buff an already decent champion, atleast do it properly.

I’m more excited for buffs than champion releases not because they’re disappointing, but because I have some of these champions in my roster rather than waiting 3 months for a chance in the featured Crystal.

Agresssor

Masterpuff said:

WAIT WHAT THE **** THEY ADDED A COOLDOWN TO HIM ON CRUELTY VS BLEED IMMUNE

Maybe againts Thing who knows...

" Thing removes 3 Rock Stack(s) when he would receive a Bleed. This can’t occur more than once every 2 second(s). "

The_Sentry06

Faseeh said:

Masterpuff said:

(and he is still better than Elsa)

You wish. They're equal. The buff would have put him further but its too minor

Idk but now Elsa's probably better in terms of damage against bleed immune champs.

slacker

And here i thought they gonna remove the cruelty consume ability....

jschweri

The most challenging part of playing Ronin is getting in/out of those stances and that didn't change. You have to do this at least 7 times to get to his precision buff and start seeing really good damage. This is disappointing.

SkyLord7000

The_Sentry06 said:

Faseeh said:

Masterpuff said:

(and he is still better than Elsa)

You wish. They're equal. The buff would have put him further but its too minor

Idk but now Elsa's probably better in terms of damage against bleed immune champs.

Always was

Masterpuff

BitterSteel said:

Masterpuff said:

BitterSteel said:

The_Sentry06 said:

Meh another lazy buff. Those who liked him before will still like him but those who didn't won't use him now.

Please Kabam stop these lazy buffs. You could have added this through a synergy.

I miss tune ups like Angela’s. Tune ups don’t need to be this little, they can transform champions but kabam keep playing it safe and keeping it small.

I don’t necessarily mind updates like that, but it just leaves me a bit like eh, ok? I’m still not gonna really use them.

Angela’s tune up was exciting. This isn’t.

I saw something floating around that was increased sp3 fury duration, some more aar, and no miss when he had a cruelty. But this… Is worthless.

What are your early thoughts on better or worse, I know there’s the cooldown now which makes cruelties worse against bleed immune, but overall would you say he’s got better, worse, or have they just taken him sideways? (As in, better at one part at the expense of another)

Pretty much the same. He lost part of a mechanic i loved, but his updated sig is kinda cool. Honestly not happy, I would rather have no new sig and his old bleed immune mechanic. He was my go-to for Thing.