Exploration Rewards For Acts 1-3

Masterpuff

Kabam Miike said:

Hey all,

While we're still exploring exactly what actions need to be taken, we don't currently think that Mass Bans are in order. We are however likely to remove the Units gained, and there may be some cases where we need to temp Ban while cleaning up some accounts. There may also be some extreme cases we need to explore, such as somebody going out of their way to exploit it on multiple accounts or something, but we are not sure what the impact is quite yet.

We'll let you all know when we have made a decision and when we expect to bring the revamped acts back soon.

Damn, once again, banning those for your own mistakes.

Masterpuff

Masterpuff said:

Kabam Miike said:

Hey all,

While we're still exploring exactly what actions need to be taken, we don't currently think that Mass Bans are in order. We are however likely to remove the Units gained, and there may be some cases where we need to temp Ban while cleaning up some accounts. There may also be some extreme cases we need to explore, such as somebody going out of their way to exploit it on multiple accounts or something, but we are not sure what the impact is quite yet.

We'll let you all know when we have made a decision and when we expect to bring the revamped acts back soon.

Damn, once again, banning those for your own mistakes.

I also did Act 1 on an Alt, that only had chapter 1 explored. Of OG act 1. So i figured it wouldnt matter no matter what the problem was since I hadnt explored initially anyways. So i did act 1, and got the units.



Then I spent them all.



So now I just spent 10$ on my alt to insure i have those units for yall to take. @Kabam Miike what about accounts who did it but it was first time explo? Like will my alt get banned?

Vintage773

If it’s a mistake on Kabam’s end, you can rest assured that they’ll find a way to punish players for it. No need to wait for the inevitable Miike condescending comment.

Skiddy212

Kabam Miike said:

Hey all,

While we're still exploring exactly what actions need to be taken, we don't currently think that Mass Bans are in order. We are however likely to remove the Units gained, and there may be some cases where we need to temp Ban while cleaning up some accounts. There may also be some extreme cases we need to explore, such as somebody going out of their way to exploit it on multiple accounts or something, but we are not sure what the impact is quite yet.

We'll let you all know when we have made a decision and when we expect to bring the revamped acts back soon.

Clown 🤡 response. You took a long time to address this, what did you think players were gonna do?

Obviously some exploited, I think a lot on this thread did not. Heck I didn’t even attempt because I just knew a response like this would come out. There shouldn’t be any bans. I get taking away the units. Bans though?

You messed up. You took hours to respond. I feel like we as a community that play this game are just getting shafted and shafted by poor communication an bugs, an just not good treatment. Shame, cause it’s a very good game…

GroundedWisdom

Skiddy212 said:

Kabam Miike said:

Hey all,

While we're still exploring exactly what actions need to be taken, we don't currently think that Mass Bans are in order. We are however likely to remove the Units gained, and there may be some cases where we need to temp Ban while cleaning up some accounts. There may also be some extreme cases we need to explore, such as somebody going out of their way to exploit it on multiple accounts or something, but we are not sure what the impact is quite yet.

We'll let you all know when we have made a decision and when we expect to bring the revamped acts back soon.

Clown 🤡 response. You took a long time to address this, what did you think players were gonna do?

Obviously some exploited, I think a lot on this thread did not. Heck I didn’t even attempt because I just knew a response like this would come out. There shouldn’t be any bans. I get taking away the units. Bans though?

You messed up. You took hours to respond. I feel like we as a community that play this game are just getting shafted and shafted by poor communication an bugs, an just not good treatment. Shame, cause it’s a very good game…

They actually addressed it last night during Maintenance, and had to discuss what their course of action was. Feel free to see it how you want.

Hilbert_unbeatable2

Kabam Miike said:

Hey all,

While we're still exploring exactly what actions need to be taken, we don't currently think that Mass Bans are in order. We are however likely to remove the Units gained, and there may be some cases where we need to temp Ban while cleaning up some accounts. There may also be some extreme cases we need to explore, such as somebody going out of their way to exploit it on multiple accounts or something, but we are not sure what the impact is quite yet.

We'll let you all know when we have made a decision and when we expect to bring the revamped acts back soon.

I am confused now...

Real_Madrid_76_2

They reverted back to original rewards of those acts

Beewee

I don’t understand this. You guys in the original post said we could explore for exploration rewards but not completion and that everyone would start at 0% explored. This seems like bad communication on your end and should've been left in.

Reference

My understanding at the very beginning of the announcement is:
1. Kabam is going to change the Act 1-3, to make it shorter to progress (given it is pretty easy for entry player to obtain 4/5/6* now, which makes Act 1-3 pretty easy);
2. Kabam is going to reset the completion % of Act 1-3, for those who have explored already, you would still got % reset BUT you won't get any exploration rewards if you revisit the Act;
3. For those who haven't explored Act1-3 yet, you will obtain new exploration rewards upon reset (what I know is unit earned in Act 1/2 will be reduced).

With that understanding, if you have explored Act 1-3 before reset, you are supposed to know you should not obtain exploration rewards. If you still continue to do when bugs occurred which gives you exploration rewards, this is an act of exploitation of bugs.

Deder80

Diablord said:

BendersBounty said:

Krishna24 said:

Scopeotoe987 said:

Gildarts99 said:

Will be lame If they were to ban us for their own mistakes.

I explored act 1 believing this was intentional.

Me too.
chuckles, I am in danger

Same dude 😬

They should not ban anyone.
It is not our fault they did this right?
We did not hack or cheat to get these rewards, we got them in the way the game intended

Right! That’s there mess up! That would be wrong in every way to ban players who did ran the quest again. They don’t ban us for there mess ups that cost us money! Why because it benefits them. Ya that mess up benefited some players…. Oh well Kabam. Get your coding right.

Hilbert_unbeatable2

Reference said:

My understanding at the very beginning of the announcement is:
1. Kabam is going to change the Act 1-3, to make it shorter to progress (given it is pretty easy for entry player to obtain 4/5/6* now, which makes Act 1-3 pretty easy);
2. Kabam is going to reset the completion % of Act 1-3, for those who have explored already, you would still got % reset BUT you won't get any exploration rewards if you revisit the Act;
3. For those who haven't explored Act1-3 yet, you will obtain new exploration rewards upon reset (what I know is unit earned in Act 1/2 will be reduced).

With that understanding, if you have explored Act 1-3 before reset, you are supposed to know you should not obtain exploration rewards. If you still continue to do when bugs occurred which gives you exploration rewards, this is an act of exploitation of bugs.

U were supposed to get exploration Rewads and not completion

Reference

Hilbert_unbeatable2 said:

Reference said:

My understanding at the very beginning of the announcement is:
1. Kabam is going to change the Act 1-3, to make it shorter to progress (given it is pretty easy for entry player to obtain 4/5/6* now, which makes Act 1-3 pretty easy);
2. Kabam is going to reset the completion % of Act 1-3, for those who have explored already, you would still got % reset BUT you won't get any exploration rewards if you revisit the Act;
3. For those who haven't explored Act1-3 yet, you will obtain new exploration rewards upon reset (what I know is unit earned in Act 1/2 will be reduced).

With that understanding, if you have explored Act 1-3 before reset, you are supposed to know you should not obtain exploration rewards. If you still continue to do when bugs occurred which gives you exploration rewards, this is an act of exploitation of bugs.

U were supposed to get exploration Rewads and not completion

Read again the box you quoted yourself.

Exploration rewards only given to those who haven’t explored before. Some players (esp those having alternative accounts) just completed each Act only in order to attain Cav status asap. Under the Act 1-3 reset, they can go back to finish the remaining paths and got exploration rewards. However, for those who already explored Act 1-3 before, you are not entitled any exploration rewards.

Reference

C’mon. Kabam’s announcement is not rocket science. If mods find that my interpretation is incorrect. You can remove my comment.

1. Player A completed Act 1 up to Act 6.2 and become Caviler. In between he got different progression titles such as Proven, UC etc.

2. Player A completed Act 3.6 via Path 5. However, such path no longer here after the reset (the reset is to reduce/simplify paths in Act 1-3, thus reduce units for exploration rewards)

3. So this may appear in Player A mobile that he is Cavlier but Act 3.6 completion % is “0” as his completed path no longer exist after reset.

4. What Kabam said is, even Player A go back and rerun Act 3.6, he won’t get any completion reward as technically he has completed before.

5. If Player A revisit those unexplored Act 1-3 paths and explored them, he is entitled the exploration rewards.

6. The last point, which is controversial for some players, is that when Player A explored entire Act 1-3 before the reset. He should NOT be entitled any exploration rewards after the reset. (But obviously some got the rewards and that’s why Kabam said they need to take them back plus investigating who exploit this bugs).

WOLF_LINK

Skiddy212 said:

Kabam Miike said:

Hey all,

While we're still exploring exactly what actions need to be taken, we don't currently think that Mass Bans are in order. We are however likely to remove the Units gained, and there may be some cases where we need to temp Ban while cleaning up some accounts. There may also be some extreme cases we need to explore, such as somebody going out of their way to exploit it on multiple accounts or something, but we are not sure what the impact is quite yet.

We'll let you all know when we have made a decision and when we expect to bring the revamped acts back soon.

Clown 🤡 response. You took a long time to address this, what did you think players were gonna do?

Obviously some exploited, I think a lot on this thread did not. Heck I didn’t even attempt because I just knew a response like this would come out. There shouldn’t be any bans. I get taking away the units. Bans though?

You messed up. You took hours to respond. I feel like we as a community that play this game are just getting shafted and shafted by poor communication an bugs, an just not good treatment. Shame, cause it’s a very good game…

Of course there need to be Bans for the people who exploited it like you mentioned. Knowing exactly what they are doing: breaking the ToS purposely. Same like Hackers, Mercs and other cheaters.

WOLF_LINK

Beewee said:

I don’t understand this. You guys in the original post said we could explore for exploration rewards but not completion and that everyone would start at 0% explored. This seems like bad communication on your end and should've been left in.

Nah, read carefully.

IF you 100% explored it before, your progression will be 100% afterwards as well. Only if you didn‘t finish the whole stuff, you can do it again.

Skiddy212

WOLF_LINK said:

Skiddy212 said:

Kabam Miike said:

Hey all,

While we're still exploring exactly what actions need to be taken, we don't currently think that Mass Bans are in order. We are however likely to remove the Units gained, and there may be some cases where we need to temp Ban while cleaning up some accounts. There may also be some extreme cases we need to explore, such as somebody going out of their way to exploit it on multiple accounts or something, but we are not sure what the impact is quite yet.

We'll let you all know when we have made a decision and when we expect to bring the revamped acts back soon.

Clown 🤡 response. You took a long time to address this, what did you think players were gonna do?

Obviously some exploited, I think a lot on this thread did not. Heck I didn’t even attempt because I just knew a response like this would come out. There shouldn’t be any bans. I get taking away the units. Bans though?

You messed up. You took hours to respond. I feel like we as a community that play this game are just getting shafted and shafted by poor communication an bugs, an just not good treatment. Shame, cause it’s a very good game…

Of course there need to be Bans for the people who exploited it like you mentioned. Knowing exactly what they are doing: breaking the ToS purposely. Same like Hackers, Mercs and other cheaters.

I understand they broke ToS. I understand it was wrong, but no response from Kabam for an extended period should not result in bans. they allowed it to go on throughout the day by not addressing IMO. Whatever though, it doesn't affect me, i didn't bother with this bug, at this point they are gonna do whatever they want so i don't know why i bothering saying my opinion lol, its all good

WOLF_LINK

It‘s not true that they didn‘t react. They immediately reverted the Revamp with Emergency Maintenance to stop further exploiting.

They just didn‘t post about it for the moment because they had to discuss it themselves first.

SirGamesBond

Kabam Miike said:

we don't currently think that Mass Bans are in order. We are however likely to remove the Units gained.

"Do not think that Mass bans are in order"
So most of you can clam down!

I'm guessing the peeps who farmed 500+ units are in the kill zone. Also those who farmed in multiple accounts.

Kabam Miike

Alright, everybody!

We've gathered all of the data, and we can confirm that there will be no accounts banned, either temporarily or permanently.

There were very few users that replayed the content and claimed the rewards again, and none that exploited the issue for extreme gains.

While we're looking into measuring the impact for a bit longer, it does not seem that we will need to do any cleanup of accounts either, though we will let you know if that changes.

WOLF_LINK

So the people claiming they got 700, 1000 or more Units that way are just trolling?

Coppin

Kabam Miike said:

While we're looking into measuring the impact for a bit longer, it does not seem that we will need to do any cleanup of accounts either, though we will let you know if that changes.

So they get to keep the units for free?.. 🤔

Graves_3

Kabam Miike said:

Alright, everybody!

We've gathered all of the data, and we can confirm that there will be no accounts banned, either temporarily or permanently.

There were very few users that replayed the content and claimed the rewards again, and none that exploited the issue for extreme gains.

While we're looking into measuring the impact for a bit longer, it does not seem that we will need to do any cleanup of accounts either, though we will let you know if that changes.

Any update on when the changes will go live again?

Polygon

Kabam Miike said:

Alright, everybody!

We've gathered all of the data, and we can confirm that there will be no accounts banned, either temporarily or permanently.

There were very few users that replayed the content and claimed the rewards again, and none that exploited the issue for extreme gains.

While we're looking into measuring the impact for a bit longer, it does not seem that we will need to do any cleanup of accounts either, though we will let you know if that changes.

The units should be removed imo to keep things fair, (this is coming from someone who inadvertently got them off 1 run himself), otherwise others may see this as an incentive to continue exploiting in the future if they see no repercussions

GroundedWisdom

If very few people ran it and none took great advantage of it, I think the effect is being blown out of proportion. It wasn't something that people could expressly exploit. They ran the Quest. A few people getting some extra Units isn't groundbreaking in terms of overall effect. Is it fair they got them and others didn't? No, but it also doesn't change the game for others.

Terra

GroundedWisdom said:

If very few people ran it and none took great advantage of it, I think the effect is being blown out of proportion. It wasn't something that people could expressly exploit. They ran the Quest. A few people getting some extra Units isn't groundbreaking in terms of overall effect. Is it fair they got them and others didn't? No, but it also doesn't change the game for others.

I actually agree with this.
Although I only got 5 units before maintenance 🌚

asgadion

Hey quick question... if I have exploration in 3 out of the 4 chapters in an act 1.... after the change, will I still be able to earn exploration for the "new/revamped" chapter and act exploration or will my % explored of the act persist into the revamped chapter... aka if I have 82% exploration of act one, will 5/6 of the "new/revamped" quests of act 1 chapter 1 show as explored?

Forgotten2

Konstant45 said:

If the units arent taken back then its clealry very disadvantageous for a big part of the playerbase
Either that or let the act 1-3 be what you guys did in the first place and let everyone get whatever amt of units is there and those who already explored it will get nothing when they re-run it
Otherwise it'll be extremely unfair since we're not talking abt 100-200 units, the amount is in 1700-1800 which is pretty big

They had to explore 100% acts 1-3 for 1800 units not enough time to do that before the quest was taken down

Masterpuff

Kabam Miike said:

Alright, everybody!

We've gathered all of the data, and we can confirm that there will be no accounts banned, either temporarily or permanently.

There were very few users that replayed the content and claimed the rewards again, and none that exploited the issue for extreme gains.

While we're looking into measuring the impact for a bit longer, it does not seem that we will need to do any cleanup of accounts either, though we will let you know if that changes.

Pleasantly surprised! I respect you decision very much, thank you.

pyloves2eat

The units earned (again) have to be removed at the very least, that's only fair. As far as I know, most knowingly exploited the glitch, to the best of their ability within time constraints. @Kabam Miike

Masterpuff

pyloves2eat said:

The units earned (again) have to be removed at the very least, that's only fair. As far as I know, most knowingly exploited the glitch, to the best of their ability within time constraints. @Kabam Miike

I didnt exploit really, and I would rather they just leave everyone be and all forget about this if im being honest.