Or.... Revenue isn't their main concern but user experience and preventing fraud is..
Arena/AW changes incoming next?
Dr. Zola
I mean… they’re supposed to be updating AW rewards next season… does that count?
Is that a user experience/fraud prevention update?
Kind of? People complained about the loyalty store made pushing for higher placements irrelevant, so an increase to rewards in AW would be a user experience update in its own right 🤷♂️
I’m very indifferent about this gifting change though tbh.
Yeah, it doesn’t matter much to me either. I have a few real world friends who play and it was fun to swap with them. But the “industry” that built up around Gifting was undoubtedly corrosive.
Dang, now i kinda wish i picked up the 10k unit offer from Act7 haha you win some you lose more
Another reason their timing is horrible.
All the unit offer's i passed on to save for christmas time? Wouldve been nice to know.
Their timing would always piss off a few people that “just passed up” the offer.
So telling people about an event they know people drastically save for, 4 months before it happens, after the act 7 deal came out (an that was a problem in itself), is just a few people?
For many, that act 7 bundle was account changing. Some definitely passed, just like others, in an attempt to save. Disagree with me all you want, but defending the communication theyve had with such a large event like gifting is awful respect to the vast player base that takes part in this. Especially considering they were getting better at communcation recently (shoutout kabam jax).
I don't want to admit publicly how many units I grinded for -- enough to make the casual observer sick. I didn't pay anybody, I didn't hack, I simply I spent hundreds of hours playing with alt accounts. I have many thoughts on the news that Gifting Event isn't coming back.
1) I appreciate Kabam sharing this info in August so that I don't build any more accounts between now and then. 2) I wish Kabam had told the community at the close of the 2021 Gifting Event. The concerns around the event were known then. 3) I feel like the reasons behind decision are with merit. Competitive balance is important. I see where Kabam is coming from, but it still hurts my feelings. 4) My average alt account harvested 4500 units just by beating Act 4 (one pass) and full exploration of Acts 1,2,3. That's too many units for a noob to spend responsibly. Rewarding Stoney Cores for lesser certain milestones, and Carb Cores for greater milestones would just be a logical starting point. 5) The notification just posted by Kabam said they will allow us to use our alts to gift consumables. Cool. I expect this means there will be a 1 month(?) period where we'll have a temporary gifting badge? My inventory cannot hold all the consumables that I can send my main. Even if I use all my loot to crush some Abyss paths, I don't know that I can spend my consumables before they expire in the standard 30 day period. Please consider A) Increasing our inventory capacity for the items that you will allow us to gift - OR - allow us to gift a special item that doesn't normally exist (like a 50% revive & 50% health potions) and give them a ~6 month expiration date so that the players have adequate time to spend them AND they don't stick around in our inventories forever (which is a Kabam desire).
Only reason I have an alt account is to send myself GGC. Have 9000 units saved up since last gifting event. All down the drain. Ridiculous
That’s a lot of kudos to give to yourself
Profile pics and titles are the most useless items in the game.
If they made profile picks into a modifier (e.g. use Hawkeye profile pic, Hawkeye gets 10% boost) and more niche ones that served like mini-masteries... then they would be heavily sought after. As it is... 99.99% of them are a waste of code, and an insult to what could have been.
Get one in an incursions crystal... sorry, you could have had shards or gold, but accept this shiny repeated title instead.
I guess we will just have to wait for them to be reinvented as gear instead.
Dang, now i kinda wish i picked up the 10k unit offer from Act7 haha you win some you lose more
Another reason their timing is horrible.
All the unit offer's i passed on to save for christmas time? Wouldve been nice to know.
Their timing would always piss off a few people that “just passed up” the offer.
So telling people about an event they know people drastically save for, 4 months before it happens, after the act 7 deal came out (an that was a problem in itself), is just a few people?
For many, that act 7 bundle was account changing. Some definitely passed, just like others, in an attempt to save. Disagree with me all you want, but defending the communication theyve had with such a large event like gifting is awful respect to the vast player base that takes part in this. Especially considering they were getting better at communcation recently (shoutout kabam jax).
When would it have benefitted you? A month ago? Two? How about a year? It doesn’t matter, it’s done. Move on. No matter when they told people the timing would be “horrible”.
This is really confusing in their profit aspect... They are planning to create a new crystal with the same contents inside.. probably at the same price... They will probably have an alliance event similar with the points being gained towards how many of those crystals a member opens and not gift... This will probably cut off all the bots that sell discounted GGC per value... Its all good and gravy... But who on their right mind would ever open cav crystals now? 🤣
Dang, now i kinda wish i picked up the 10k unit offer from Act7 haha you win some you lose more
Another reason their timing is horrible.
All the unit offer's i passed on to save for christmas time? Wouldve been nice to know.
Their timing would always piss off a few people that “just passed up” the offer.
So telling people about an event they know people drastically save for, 4 months before it happens, after the act 7 deal came out (an that was a problem in itself), is just a few people?
For many, that act 7 bundle was account changing. Some definitely passed, just like others, in an attempt to save. Disagree with me all you want, but defending the communication theyve had with such a large event like gifting is awful respect to the vast player base that takes part in this. Especially considering they were getting better at communcation recently (shoutout kabam jax).
When would it have benefitted you? A month ago? Two? How about a year? It doesn’t matter, it’s done. Move on. No matter when they told people the timing would be “horrible”.
Would've been nice to know once the previous event ended. As if they didn't know they'd cancel it. You make it seem like there is no optimal time. There actually was and they horribly failed at communicating this change
Dang, now i kinda wish i picked up the 10k unit offer from Act7 haha you win some you lose more
Another reason their timing is horrible.
All the unit offer's i passed on to save for christmas time? Wouldve been nice to know.
Their timing would always piss off a few people that “just passed up” the offer.
So telling people about an event they know people drastically save for, 4 months before it happens, after the act 7 deal came out (an that was a problem in itself), is just a few people?
For many, that act 7 bundle was account changing. Some definitely passed, just like others, in an attempt to save. Disagree with me all you want, but defending the communication theyve had with such a large event like gifting is awful respect to the vast player base that takes part in this. Especially considering they were getting better at communcation recently (shoutout kabam jax).
When would it have benefitted you? A month ago? Two? How about a year? It doesn’t matter, it’s done. Move on. No matter when they told people the timing would be “horrible”.
Would've been nice to know once the previous event ended. As if they didn't know they'd cancel it. You make it seem like there is no optimal time. There actually was and they horribly failed at communicating this change
So how many alts did u actually lvled in the past 8 months?...
Dang, now i kinda wish i picked up the 10k unit offer from Act7 haha you win some you lose more
Another reason their timing is horrible.
All the unit offer's i passed on to save for christmas time? Wouldve been nice to know.
Their timing would always piss off a few people that “just passed up” the offer.
So telling people about an event they know people drastically save for, 4 months before it happens, after the act 7 deal came out (an that was a problem in itself), is just a few people?
For many, that act 7 bundle was account changing. Some definitely passed, just like others, in an attempt to save. Disagree with me all you want, but defending the communication theyve had with such a large event like gifting is awful respect to the vast player base that takes part in this. Especially considering they were getting better at communcation recently (shoutout kabam jax).
When would it have benefitted you? A month ago? Two? How about a year? It doesn’t matter, it’s done. Move on. No matter when they told people the timing would be “horrible”.
Would've been nice to know once the previous event ended. As if they didn't know they'd cancel it. You make it seem like there is no optimal time. There actually was and they horribly failed at communicating this change
There is no optimal timing, only what benefited you specifically. If they told us after last gifting event ended people would still find something to complain about.
Just had a random thought, what if we earned shards for the new "gift" crystals like we do current monthly eq/sq shards? That way ftp players can still get more than just what the holiday calendar usually gives.
This is really confusing in their profit aspect... They are planning to create a new crystal with the same contents inside.. probably at the same price... They will probably have an alliance event similar with the points being gained towards how many of those crystals a member opens and not gift... This will probably cut off all the bots that sell discounted GGC per value... Its all good and gravy... But who on their right mind would ever open cav crystals now? 🤣
There are whales who spent on gifting and whales who will buy these crystals. Everyone else just farmed for units. The people who grinded units and spent those on gifting never really contributed financially to the game. They still won’t be able to. Whether they buy these crystals or not doesn’t really change profit margins for kabam!!
Thousands will sleep better tonight knowing less grandparents aren't going to be fleeced to pay their outstanding tax bill by itunes cards over the phone or risk going to jail. Well done on getting rid and shutting down the scam operations which thrived on this event.
This is really confusing in their profit aspect... They are planning to create a new crystal with the same contents inside.. probably at the same price... They will probably have an alliance event similar with the points being gained towards how many of those crystals a member opens and not gift... This will probably cut off all the bots that sell discounted GGC per value... Its all good and gravy... But who on their right mind would ever open cav crystals now? 🤣
There are whales who spent on gifting and whales who will buy these crystals. Everyone else just farmed for units. The people who grinded units and spent those on gifting never really contributed financially to the game. They still won’t be able to. Whether they buy these crystals or not doesn’t really change profit margins for kabam!!
U r right on the aspect that people who spend will spend regardless (Whales) The casual player will actually assess if a 300 unit cav crystal is really worthy... The profit margin... This is where i completely disagree...as the official post said.. 850k crystals were acquired fraudulently.... Probably bot farms at a discounted rate.. lets just imagine.. 10 ggc for 60 bucks.. well those 60 bucks will go to kabam directly now..
Thousands will sleep better tonight knowing less grandparents aren't going to be fleeced to pay their outstanding tax bill by itunes cards over the phone or risk going to jail. Well done on getting rid and shutting down the scam operations which thrived on this event.
This is a big plus true.
Yeah cause scammers only sell to mcoc players....🤣
I demand refund for my purchase of Daily Collector Card since early this year. I pick those deals you offer to us to stack up my units, I do comply with your login everyday bs. All that for gifting event. I dont care about consumable. Refund then all be good.
But on the other-hand there’s just so many despicable people out there, and the global chat is just cancer but with extra steps. And even showing generosity was weird because of the culture the game created. I would send people free items and then they would reply “Oh man now I’ve gotta grind arena to pay you back this sucks” Which to means is just baffling. It’s like the concept of “Gift” doesn’t really exist in this game.
I will remain dubious about this new event until we see it in the game (purely judging by the last 2 summoner appreciation events which... were not great). and as one person in my ally chat mentioned, alliances are now more optional than ever, unless they finally start addressing how obsolete almost all of the ally events' rewards are.
Why does Kabam throw this news into the world at this time? 3 months before the event starts. Why not right after the last one ended? This is so unfair to players who grind with a 2nd account for over 9 months now! Shame on you.. but it’s not the first time you guys from Kabam mess up the game.. and the community
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Dr. Zola
All the unit offer's i passed on to save for christmas time? Wouldve been nice to know.
For many, that act 7 bundle was account changing. Some definitely passed, just like others, in an attempt to save. Disagree with me all you want, but defending the communication theyve had with such a large event like gifting is awful respect to the vast player base that takes part in this. Especially considering they were getting better at communcation recently (shoutout kabam jax).
1) I appreciate Kabam sharing this info in August so that I don't build any more accounts between now and then.
2) I wish Kabam had told the community at the close of the 2021 Gifting Event. The concerns around the event were known then.
3) I feel like the reasons behind decision are with merit. Competitive balance is important. I see where Kabam is coming from, but it still hurts my feelings.
4) My average alt account harvested 4500 units just by beating Act 4 (one pass) and full exploration of Acts 1,2,3. That's too many units for a noob to spend responsibly. Rewarding Stoney Cores for lesser certain milestones, and Carb Cores for greater milestones would just be a logical starting point.
5) The notification just posted by Kabam said they will allow us to use our alts to gift consumables. Cool. I expect this means there will be a 1 month(?) period where we'll have a temporary gifting badge? My inventory cannot hold all the consumables that I can send my main. Even if I use all my loot to crush some Abyss paths, I don't know that I can spend my consumables before they expire in the standard 30 day period. Please consider A) Increasing our inventory capacity for the items that you will allow us to gift - OR - allow us to gift a special item that doesn't normally exist (like a 50% revive & 50% health potions) and give them a ~6 month expiration date so that the players have adequate time to spend them AND they don't stick around in our inventories forever (which is a Kabam desire).
Get one in an incursions crystal... sorry, you could have had shards or gold, but accept this shiny repeated title instead.
I guess we will just have to wait for them to be reinvented as gear instead.
They are planning to create a new crystal with the same contents inside.. probably at the same price...
They will probably have an alliance event similar with the points being gained towards how many of those crystals a member opens and not gift...
This will probably cut off all the bots that sell discounted GGC per value...
Its all good and gravy... But who on their right mind would ever open cav crystals now? 🤣
The casual player will actually assess if a 300 unit cav crystal is really worthy...
The profit margin... This is where i completely disagree...as the official post said.. 850k crystals were acquired fraudulently.... Probably bot farms at a discounted rate.. lets just imagine.. 10 ggc for 60 bucks.. well those 60 bucks will go to kabam directly now..