Stop Complaining About Rifts!
jdeck59
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People are getting so caught up in getting the "candy" they forgot what a side quest is.
1. The candy store contains all the rewards one would normally get in a monthly side quest
2. The side quest is one path a day/7 per week. You would normally need to do all four difficulties ~24 or so paths a week for the same rewards as the candy store.
3. The RNG awards are among the best in the game. If you're lucky enough to get one then awesome, if not it is what it is. We are a long way from getting six star AGs as normal side quest rewards
4. The alternative is going back to regular side quest, with multiple paths per week with zero chance of top tier rewards.
It's like everyone is so caught up on not getting the AG that they forgot what a normal month is 🤦♂️
1. The candy store contains all the rewards one would normally get in a monthly side quest
2. The side quest is one path a day/7 per week. You would normally need to do all four difficulties ~24 or so paths a week for the same rewards as the candy store.
3. The RNG awards are among the best in the game. If you're lucky enough to get one then awesome, if not it is what it is. We are a long way from getting six star AGs as normal side quest rewards
4. The alternative is going back to regular side quest, with multiple paths per week with zero chance of top tier rewards.
It's like everyone is so caught up on not getting the AG that they forgot what a normal month is 🤦♂️
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First, no need to open up new threads for each new complaint, tons of rift complaint threads already exist.
Second, before you complain about rng, read the posted odds. Yes you most likely got mostly if not all candy so far, that's because posted odds show that on average your likely to get candy 9 out of every 10 runs meaning you will likely only get non candy prize only 3 times during entire event.
Where is the complaints dept?
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Trying to ignore screenshots that are shared on your face.
I'm fine. Geee
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I will take the alternative. Side quest with clearly defined rewards so I can judge how much effort I want to put in. I also can walk away knowing those that put in the same effort as me get the same rewards as me.
PS: I got the AG on Day 2.
2. Normally need to do? Doing more difficultly means more rewards. Locking in one difficulty just means locking out lf rewards.
3. Just check the feedbacks past rift rewards got. RNG is already in every crystal in the game. Bringing RNG to RNG is pointless.
4. It atleast guarantees same rewards for the effort everyone puts! Effort is meaningless if everything is a lottery.
Honestly can't believe there is anyone who can make worse argument than the ones you made.
He’s wanting to have his cake and eat it.
Not to mention people will complain about RNG until the cows come home, yet continue playing this game inherently built on RNG. People saying how bad RNG is and then close down the forums, go and open their 6* Crystal, get some random T4cc, go and do the RNG rift they’re complaining about on the forum.
People curse RNG, but enjoy the adrenaline rush of opening crystals and getting what they want or need. You can’t have those highs without lows of not pulling good things. This game has and always will have RNG in it, you can’t say “oh I just don’t want RNG here”, the game is built around it.
People will complain about the RNG of rifts every month, but still do them exactly the same as any other month. Kabam are not listening to the relatively small sample of the vocal minority who hate rifts, they are listening to the data of how many people are doing the rifts. Those of you who are complaining about rifts, put your candy where your mouth is and don’t do them if you hate them so much. That’s the only thing that’ll stop kabam doing them.
If you complain about rifts, log off the forum grumbling and then go and do your rift, what message is that sending to Kabam?
The bolded is the entire reason not to like them. If you and I put in the same effort, yet you get 5 non-candy days and I get 0 non-candy days, then it’s an unfair event. I don’t need or want 2* sig stones or 3* shards, but I’ll be forced to buy them to use my candy while you have 2 6* AG, 2MM gold, and 2 T5B cats dropped into your lap.
That’s what people are pissed about. I’m on five straight days of candy, while others are posting they’ve hit the RNG jackpot three times already. To the point in your post, it’s not that we haven’t gotten our 6* AG YET, it’s that there is ZERO guarantee that I or others in my same position will see a single 6* AG. We’ve fallen behind others in terms of game economy due to no fault of our own and with no way to catch up based on our own actions, just hoping for the luck of the draw.
All that people are asking for is equal payout for equal effort. Rewards shouldn’t be a lottery that some people get and others don’t.
Getting shafted on great rewards gives a feeling of regret in doing it in the first place. Makes me feel like I wasted my time. There's going to be people that walk away with nothing other than candy this whole event and are going to be beyond upset over it, and I don't blame them. Putting in the same work as everyone else but receive substantially less? It's B.S.
I don't care if I walked away with 5 6* awakening gems. I'd still talk about how I hate the idea of the rewards people receive being based on RNG. Cause no matter what, there was the real chance i could have walked away with far far less. There will be people that walk away with far far less and it's not fair to them.
So I'll continue to collect my daily candy. Grab the things here and there in the terrible candy store that I can use or need. Continue to bash this side quest, and there's nothing anyone can say that will change my opinion on this.
I can send you the screen recording if you’d like. Feel free to add me on Line, I’ll send it over. BitterSteel99
I went from completely empty Home Screen, then type in mcoc forum, then open the most recent thread, copy a name, open the game and let it load, search the copy and pasted name and duelled the 3*, then went to objectives.
I’m not sure what to say if you think less than 2 mins of your time is a chore, you could hold your breath longer than that..
Of all the things to complain about, I think 1:30mins is quite a small one.
I’m not saying you have a moral duty not to do it if you don’t like it. I’m saying that 30-50 people on the forum complaining and 100 people “agree reacting” to posts that complain clearly is not changing Kabam’s mind when they have hundreds of thousands of players actually doing the event.
So it’s unfair that one player can come away with a 6* gem and others won’t, but it’s not unfair that one player can come away with a Hercules and one with drax?
It’s just odd how people draw the distinction here to suit their complaints. There is a hell of a lot of non-RNG things in the game, BGs store, Glory store, Loyalty store, awakening gems that you choose who to use them on - it’s Rng for which class, but once I have a science I can use on whoever I want, that aspect isn’t RNG (and generic ones aren’t either). But there is also a hell of a lot of RNG, almost the entire champion acquisition system, classes of items/cats etc etc.
There is also a whole heap of rewards that aren’t RNG in the candy store. Now, if your point was purely about the candy store I’d agree. It’s definitely time to have a TB and Paragon aspect to the store. That is the place that kabam are lagging behind on.
Not to mention, that if all of you guys got your way and rifts and RNG was done away with for side quests, the highest value rewards would go down. Instead of 6* gems, we’d see T5B and 6* shards as the top prizes. Why? Because when things are RNG you can control how many get them. You want 10k 6* shards to go out to the average player, make the top prize 50k with a 20% chance. You don’t want RNG? Ok, now it’s a guaranteed 10k.
You might think “yeah I’d prefer the guaranteed 10k” and yeah, personally I’d agree as I’m not that much of a gambler. But that’s not my point. Now imagine it with 6* gems, you can’t do X% of a 6* gem. So it’s either gonna be an RNG chance at it, or nothing. It’s replaced with something else less valuable.
My overarching point is this - a small minority complaining on the forum is not going to get rid of rifts, because they haven’t managed it the last 5 times, rifts work, I personally think they’re fun and I’m not alone. The forum twists perspective sometimes and makes it seem like 99% of the playerbase hate something, but it’s 99% of the 50 angriest players who hate it so much. Most will shrug and try their chance at a 6* gem, disappointed if they don’t but not furious. They understand that there is RNG in the game and it’s not just limited to crystals.
Also, you seem incredibly supportive of RNG, even to a fault I'd say. Shoot why should Kabam stop here? Make the rewards RNG for Act 8.2. Maybe you'll get r4 mats? Maybe you'll get a 1-2 gem instead. Or maybe you'll get 2 T5bc. Who knows? Let's just go ahead and add it everywhere huh? EQ, maybe you'll get 6* shards or maybe you'll get 5* ones instead.
No, you shouldn't just shut up, I think all feedback is really important which is why I try not to ever tell people to stop adding to conversations even if I disagree with them. My point is that rifts have been in the game for years and years and they keep coming back, if they were actually unpopular with the game at large enough to impact player retention and monthly usage stats then Kabam would change it, they haven't changed it and in fact consistently bring them back, so they are clearly successful. You don't need to twist my words and claim I'm tell you to not give feedback, it doesn't help the message you're trying to give to kabam. Maybe this is the year that the vocal minority persuade rifts not to come back, but something about the last 5 times being the exact same cycle of rift, a few complain and repeat makes me doubt it.
Also, that's a hell of a strawman you've got there, claiming that because I defend RNG in one place I would like it everywhere. It's a disingenuous way to argue and anyone with an IQ above room temperature can see that I haven't said what you're exaggerating my points to be.
If you'd like to address my points without strawmanning them into me saying you should shut up, or that I want the entire game to be RNG, then I'll be happy to respond, if not, I don't see much point continuing if you won't discuss it genuinely.
Yeah RNG is nearly everywhere else in this game. That is just the way the game is. Whether 6* crystals or catalysts, etc. And obviously those alone leave people with disappointment. Now the rewards themselves are going to be RNG based too? Just to continue feelings of disappointment when people can't get those rewards. That doesn't sit well with me, never has. The only thing that kept me from really getting fired up in the past was that we could aquire keys to at least target rewards we wanted a few times. Didn't like the design but the keys made it feel like it wasn't as big of a deal. Now having rewards waved in my face with little to no chances of aquiring it, whatsoever, really doesn't sit well with me.
Looking at people simply doing it, doesn't feel like a fair way to judge if people enjoy something or not. As I've said, there's been plenty of other things I have disliked in this game, but completed them nonetheless, cause I have a roster I'm continuously trying to expand. Just like everyone else.
And sorry, but the way things were worded, it gave me the impression that you think I shouldn't express my opinion, because Kabam is going to continue to do what they want anyways. I will always throw my opinion in. No matter if you, Kabam, or anyone else likes it or not. I'm not trying to strawman you with anything, I'm simply responding with the impression you have given me throughout your argument.
Rewards already have RNG factored into them. I don't want what rewards I get to be RNG based as well. Plain and simple.