Thronebreaker Difficulty 3.2

Ghostspider231

Who’s genius idea was to design a mystic path with a 50% protection node and various paths like masochism and weakness. These quests are lasting forever with 300k health pools to boot. It’s not enjoyable to spend two hours finishing off a quest in EQ.

Crazyjack719

I doubt they put much thought into the interaction with defenders, the class type of the node and how it would affect the overall experience. However this is content aimed at Thronebreaker + to be on a similar level to act 7/8 so we can’t really complain when one of the chapters takes a bit long.

Deamon1337

it took me 7min to defeat the sentinel :c

Amitgr4

Once again- terrible job, Kabam. Congrats on keep breaking your own poor execution records!

Oh and the decision to take away the cavalier objective With the R4 materials- classic Kabam, amazing

Gogeta91199

Yea the node combination is weird but there is no real need of using mystic champs in the quest, bring a normal quest team with 1-2 boss counters as per your wish. There no restriction on any other champ and you can bring high damage champs and blitz past the protection node.

Rbk19

Just bring 4 star guillotine, she destroyed the whole path.

Xigro

There's a Domino and critical failure does about 1k per tick, 2k damage per second, come on! How am I supposed to win the furies if it keeps failing?

GinjabredMonsta

Yeah the node combo for me is the killer. AbMan, not that bad, the nodes for the path, time wasting

Gomezlink

Ghostspider231 said:

Who’s genius idea was to design a mystic path with a 50% protection node and various paths like masochism and weakness. These quests are lasting forever with 300k health pools to boot. It’s not enjoyable to spend two hours finishing off a quest in EQ.

Taking the correct team, the fights do not take long, they gain up to 10 furies, drained, Doom and Claire makes the fight not take long

Doosra

Funnily I have used kingpin with hood to counter weakness nodes
But defeats the purpose of using mystic champs

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Zolobacsi

Crazyjack719 said:

I doubt they put much thought into the interaction with defenders, the class type of the node and how it would affect the overall experience. However this is content aimed at Thronebreaker + to be on a similar level to act 7/8 so we can’t really complain when one of the chapters takes a bit long.

It's a monthly quest. Shouldn't be on the same level in time consumption with story acts.

KennyPL

Gomezlink said:

Ghostspider231 said:

Who’s genius idea was to design a mystic path with a 50% protection node and various paths like masochism and weakness. These quests are lasting forever with 300k health pools to boot. It’s not enjoyable to spend two hours finishing off a quest in EQ.

Taking the correct team, the fights do not take long, they gain up to 10 furies, drained, Doom and Claire makes the fight not take long

Sig200 r4 Doom needs 150-170 hits to win a fight. That's not a definition of a "fun game". BWCV fairs a little better but still, these node combos are ****.

Worknprogress

Xigro said:

There's a Domino and critical failure does about 1k per tick, 2k damage per second, come on! How am I supposed to win the furies if it keeps failing?

Sorcerer is a very good Domino counter at I think sig 40. Her increased ability accuracy and no percentage based abilities means no crit fail

Worknprogress

Regardless, I do agree that the global protection node is absolutely awful. It took more than twice as long to explore the mystic quest as it did the skill quest before it

NearJr

That Killmonger on conflictor was absurdly annoying. The whole mystic quest is way harder than the other 5.

Mpd1

So the answer to these mystic paths is… don’t use mystic champs? I don’t want to take 275 hits with Claire to take down Hercules. I thought the point of having a “tag or class” section was to give those champs a benefit. Yes, I’m aware that they do but, it sure doesn’t feel like it, the mystic section.

SgtSlaughter78

Gomezlink said:

Ghostspider231 said:

Who’s genius idea was to design a mystic path with a 50% protection node and various paths like masochism and weakness. These quests are lasting forever with 300k health pools to boot. It’s not enjoyable to spend two hours finishing off a quest in EQ.

Taking the correct team, the fights do not take long, they gain up to 10 furies, drained, Doom and Claire makes the fight not take long

I used a rank 4 BWCV and the sentinal fight took a real long time. Not fun at all.

Fit_Fun9329

I used torch for that sentinel and it took sooo long

Wicket329

Sorcerer Supreme carved through it pretty easily, honestly. With power drain on every hit of her power control mode and regen in her defensive one, she ramps up the furies immediately and she’s loaded with utility.

I used her for that Sentinel y’all are talking about and while it was definitely a long fight, I think it took me about 2:40. Long, but not obscene.

KienMinh

the nodes combination and large health pool with certain champ just take forever even with right champs ( claire r3 with suicide and md at 4).. this is monthly quest.. the fight should be quick enjoyable and fun not painful and draggy like ACT contents... tbh each fight for monthly should be no more than 30-50 hits.. no body got time to run 6-7 times.. it kinda sux that u have face the same boss fights for cav and TB: 12 times for zemo and 14 times for abs man.. that is miserable... the should reduce number of paths too... maybe 2-3 in chap 1.. 3-4 in chap 2 and 4-5 in chap 3.

DrZola

Wicket329 said:

Sorcerer Supreme carved through it pretty easily, honestly. With power drain on every hit of her power control mode and regen in her defensive one, she ramps up the furies immediately and she’s loaded with utility.

I used her for that Sentinel y’all are talking about and while it was definitely a long fight, I think it took me about 2:40. Long, but not obscene.

That’s good info.

But I hope TB difficulty doesn’t become a mode where I have to rank up specific champs outside of the ones I might already rank just to avoid a lengthy and unenjoyable experience. Not saying SS is the equivalent of, say, ranking Annihilus for BGs, but she’s not often the first mystic to come to mind.

Better design next time would be appreciated.

Dr. Zola

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Normax_X

*kabam makes a mystic quest*
- adds 50% protection scaling with power
- adds 30% stackable weakness
- adds conflictor and masochism
- puts sinister domino killmonger mephisto MS sentinel

fights were taking 3-4 minutes it was horrendous

Normax_X

Mpd1 said:

So the answer to these mystic paths is… don’t use mystic champs? I don’t want to take 275 hits with Claire to take down Hercules. I thought the point of having a “tag or class” section was to give those champs a benefit. Yes, I’m aware that they do but, it sure doesn’t feel like it, the mystic section.

yh i barely used any mystics and when i did they took like 5 minutes to clear a fight lol it was so boring

CyborgNinja135

Finished exploration last night and it was such a slog. The only mystic I ended up bringing for some paths was Dr Doom and brought general counters for the other fights. I feel like the mystic quest usually has the "worst" combination of nodes and defenders.

Ercarret

Thank god I'm not the only one who gets stuck on those paths. I'm currently working my way through the 30% Weakness path and it's the most annoyed I've been with EQ in ages.

I think a major reason why is that the nodes don't seem to gel together into a singular whole that's fun to play through. Usually, you get something like "Mystics get bonuses when nullifying buffs" + "Defenders get various buffs depending on path" + "A global node gives them an extra annoying buff", and you can see how this benefits mystic champions. However, this combination of nodes is just "When you gain health or power drain, you get a bonus" (fair enough) + "Gain a stacking Weakness whenever you do two actions of the same type in a row" + "A global node that makes you deal a lot less damage in general".

I don't see a mystic connection to the latter two nodes. If anything, I'm fairly certain that Mole Man or Kingpin would have rinsed that whole path way quicker than my Doom, Diablo or Wiccan ever could. I'm halfway through and every fight has taken around 5 minutes. Even if you play according to the node and do M-L-M or M-H combos, that still just drags the time out. It also isn't a fun playstyle.

Meanwhile, you had another path with Redoubled Determination on it. Which mystic champion besides Diablo relies on poison, bleed or armor breaks for damage? I guess Man-Thing and Symbiote Supreme, perhaps, but I just completely ignored that node as I cleared that path. The only thing that gave me pause was the freaking Mephisto.

I'm not done with this particular quest yet since I'm using my energy for BG as well, but so far, it's really puzzling to me. More than any of the other in TB difficulty.

Mkdemaria

This node combination wasn't tested at all before release. The combination of nodes and hard Defenders makes this content less enjoyable. The Masochism path and Conflictor were some of the worst I've encountered in the game.

GroundedWisdom

Amitgr4 said:

Once again- terrible job, Kabam. Congrats on keep breaking your own poor execution records!

Oh and the decision to take away the cavalier objective With the R4 materials- classic Kabam, amazing

You mean the Thronebreaker Objective that was tied into Cavalier because there was no other content to tie it to?

Bboychobo

i agree... chapters 1 and 2 were actually fun with the right champs.... esp. ch. 2 tech was so much fun with my 6 Star rank 4 Stark Spidey ... but the mystic ones were horrible .... hated every second of it !!!

GeneralMerce

Weakness path was annoying but once you get used to a good combo rotation it wasn't too bad. Stun, L-M-L-M repeat.

I generally liked the other quests. Science path with Ibom, Mr Fantastic and power sting synergy made the quest laughable.