Tier 1 alphas

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  • SighsohardSighsohard Member Posts: 666 ★★★
    Draco2199 wrote: »
    I think the best way for those that aren't in the top tier to understand our pain is to remove t1a's from all Map Crystals.

    This would at least open the eyes of those that think there are plenty out there, of course 7 is plenty when you can rank a bunch of 4* with that amount. I always find humor in people from the top and bottom disagreeing on resources. We are at two very different states of the game.

    Currently have over 35 5*s. Each 5* takes 10 t1a just to make it to rank 3. Let’s pretend I️ get 30 a month(not realistic) it will take me a year t r3 my current 5*s...
  • Run477Run477 Member Posts: 1,391 ★★★
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    It is funny how people complain about alphas when you can get 5 at least in a 9 day period in an active alliance. Arena, 3 alliance events, and an average of 1 every 9 days ish from monthly event quests. More than enough for most people to rank 5* champs when they get them. You could even throw in a couple more from glory each aq series. That’s 7 in 9 days. Plenty available

    You clearly are in a lower tier alliance. What you just said will allow the ranking of one 5* champ to r2. The majority that are complaining have t4ccs always in overflow and need to rank not just one 5 to r2, but rank them to r3 (that’s 10 alphas) and there are still 4*s to rank to at least r3, r4, or r5.

    As I posted earlier, under your example of how “available” they are, it would take me 30 weeks to rank all of my 5*s to r3. And that is totally ignoring any new 5*s or 4*s i get in that timeframe. I get it, you are probably newer and in a tier 8 war alliance that runs map 3 so you have t1as coming out the ying yang. Others of us run arena and are in higher tiers, getting new 5*s every 3-4 weeks and we have been playing this game for 2 years. We were new at once too and in your aame position. But it’s unhelpful to tell those of us who have put in our time and are extremely active (and in extremely active alliances) that we should effectively go backward to get an item that is supposed to be easy to get.

    Furthermore, back when we all used to be earlier in this game 5* champs were almost impossible to get. It would take months to get just one. Kabam vastly increased their availability with the arena revamp but then decreased the availability of the lowest cost item used to rank them up.
  • Run477Run477 Member Posts: 1,391 ★★★
    I sure wish there wasn’t a 30 day expiration on those things. I might not be complaining as much had I not had to sell so many for nothing but gold way back then bc they always expired
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    @Run477 I’m in a 14 mil alliance that runs map 6 every week. We are top 100 in aw. Don’t make wild accusations
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    edited November 2017
    My way gets you almost 25 a month. That’s plenty to rank up 5* and 4* champs. I doubt you get more than 2 5* a month in order to use that many alphas unless you spend on crystals
  • RehctansBewRehctansBew Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    My way gets you almost 25 a month. That’s plenty to rank up 5* and 4* champs. I doubt you get more than 2 5* a month in order to use that many alphas unless you spend on crystals

    Not real good with numbers, however if I follow your guide and get 5 every 9 days it seems a bit off from 25 a month. Unless there are 45 days in months now.
  • mum_m2mum_m2 Member Posts: 1,776 ★★★★
    i absolutely get the desire to run map 5x5. but I think this really poor planning on every's part. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should. Step back and think about the resources you need not want. You're saying you need T1 alphas, but you and your alliance aren't doing the quests that give those out at a decent rate.

    Now, I know that map 3 doesn't give as many points as maps 4-5-6. So I'm only speaking to those that are comfortable in the expert tier. I'm not saying to jeopardize your position in the expert bracket by doing map 3. I would think that holds precedent to obtaining the chance of getting a some alpha shards.
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    @RehctansBew, if you look at one of my other posts you will see that I said 7 not 5
  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 295
    Okay all you pros running map 5 and map 6 in Tier 1 AW... we are running map 3 and still don't get enough T1As to rank people up as fast as I would like. I have to wait weeks to do my rank ups. This is a resource that used to be in abundance, it just hurts to have to adjust to the sudden rarity and to the idea of having to spend glory on them. It just doesn't feel good having to worry about so many different resources... I used to only have to worry about T4B primarily as I built up the T4CC, now I have to worry about insufficient T1A, T4B, and gold. It was just nicer having to worry about only one thing rather than a juggling act for three! Kudos to those of you that don't have this problem, but I do and it sucks...
  • RagamugginGunnerRagamugginGunner Member Posts: 2,210 ★★★★★
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    It is funny how people complain about alphas when you can get 5 at least in a 9 day period in an active alliance. Arena, 3 alliance events, and an average of 1 every 9 days ish from monthly event quests. More than enough for most people to rank 5* champs when they get them. You could even throw in a couple more from glory each aq series. That’s 7 in 9 days. Plenty available

    That's enough to rank one 5* champ one level a week. That is not "plenty available"
  • JOHNOSA1995JOHNOSA1995 Member Posts: 536 ★★
    I need t1a also have 0
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    Resources aren’t supposed to be readily available to rank up every champ as soon as you get them. Part of this game is about choosing who you spend resources on
  • Run477Run477 Member Posts: 1,391 ★★★
    I sure wish there wasn’t a 30 day expiration on those things. I might not be complaining as much had I not had to sell so many for nothing but gold way back then bc they always expired
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    @Run477 I’m in a 14 mil alliance that runs map 6 every week. We are top 100 in aw. Don’t make wild accusations

    Then you aren’t ranking many people up—or at least not to r3. Two 5*s a month to r3 is 30 t1as. And that means you aren’t ranking. 4*s at all
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    I don’t rank 4*s I have all the 4*s ranked up that I need. I really only rank 5* when I have alphas expiring because I’m holding out for next month
  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 295
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    I don’t rank 4*s I have all the 4*s ranked up that I need. I really only rank 5* when I have alphas expiring because I’m holding out for next month

    What's next month? YOu mean when the new champs are added to the crystal?
    Yea, I don't want to rank 4* but ranking 5* is so incredibly costly... so if I'm trying to spend T4CC in 3 different classes, it becomes a bit of a dilemma
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  • MhykkeMhykke Member Posts: 431 ★★★
    I agree, there should be a way to acquire more T1 alphas in the game. Either by having them drop in milestones or all aq crystals, or by reducing costs of upgrading 5 star champs.

    We already have a rare alpha catalyst to acquire, T2s.

    Especially with 6 stars coming out, and the focus changing more to 5 stars and above, this roadblock of T1 alphas should be eliminated.
  • Run477Run477 Member Posts: 1,391 ★★★
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    I don’t rank 4*s I have all the 4*s ranked up that I need. I really only rank 5* when I have alphas expiring because I’m holding out for next month

    So what you are sayin is that you have been hoarding 5* shards and not opening crystals until next month? Then you will have a lot of 5* champs that need leveled?

    I had held for blade (didn’t get him). Doesn’t change the fact that I have tons of 5*s I want to rank to at least r2 and most to r3 and lack the alphas to do it.

    Are all of your 5*s ranked to r3 now or do you only rank the 5*s you “need” past r1?
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    No, I’m at 10k shards. You know what they say about assuming. I’m hoarding my alphas like I said
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    No, I’m at 10k shards. You know what they say about assuming. I’m hoarding my alphas like I said

    Well if you aren't ranking champs and you are hoarding alphas, it makes sense that you don't have an alpha problem lol. For the rest of us though it's a problem. And I agree with you that it's ok to run out of resources. I'm not saying I need to have 15 in my stash like I used to. Just that they should bring back alpha fragments and make them a bit more plentiful again.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    I would prefer a reduction in 5* T1A cost, Is a 6* going to require 10 T1A's to rank to 2? I mean seriously a 4* to r5 is only 2 T1A's, and an r3 is considered around the same as a 4* r5 or slightly better. So a r2 should only Cost 2 and an r3 should cost 3. 5 to get to r3 wouldn't be too bad.
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    I don’t get why a 5* to rank 4 requires tier 1 alphas and t2 alphas
  • RehctansBewRehctansBew Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Well we all know Kabam promised resources would be more available. So I'm guessing that next big announcement will be about something Huge, maybe it will even affect more than 5 people this time. If they would put more milestones in the t1a arena and bring back the t1a in map 5 crystals it would help.
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    I understand the top-tier players want to stay in the top-tiers for AQ, but the part I don't seem to understand is: why stay in the top-tier to collect more T4's when you're overflowing with them? I know the glory is much better in the Expert tier than the Advanced, but what other benefit is there to remain in Expert besides pride? You are literally overflowing with the resources from Map 5& 6, what do you stand to lose by stepping back for a couple weeks?

    What if we re-scale the complaint: I need Tier2 basic catalysts, but I always run the Tier 3 proving grounds because I need the XP and gold. I then have to make the decision of what is more valuable to me? Do I accept the fact that I won't get the T2 that I want while I continue to accumulate gold and XP? Or do I take a step back for a short time to get the resources I need and sacrifice my account leveling up? Eventually the gold and XP become worthless because I won't have any other resources to rank up with and I'll be max level.

    Sometimes you actually have to go back in order to advance. This is actually quite common in console games. I have lost track of the hours spent re-doing lower-levels just to farm the XP/resources to get through the next level.
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    Please, show me the math on why going back to Map 3 is such a bad thing. I genuinely want to understand.
  • AgentEdwardAgentEdward Member Posts: 65
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    Didn’t grind for one in the arena and I just used 6 yesterday...
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,693 Guardian
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    Please, show me the math on why going back to Map 3 is such a bad thing. I genuinely want to understand.

    There are as many different reasons as there are different player, but they all revolve around the fact that dropping down to map 3 risks dropping down from expert tier to advanced. And that comes with an extremely sizeable reduction in AQ rewards. Now, if you are overflowing with T4CC then losing glory crystals and T4CC crystals if you are high enough might not be a big deal, but you will also take a huge hit in T4B and glory points. T1A might be the largest bottleneck for some top tier players, but I doubt everyone in the expert tier is overflowing with T4B also. Going for T1A by dropping down to map 3 would just shift the bottleneck from T1A to T4B, plus also whack you in glory which you might be using to grind out T2A.
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    Really it’s just glory for t2 alpha shards for top alliances
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
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    Didn’t grind for one in the arena and I just used 6 yesterday...

    As has already been stated, every single person struggling to get enough alphas used to have a stash like that @AgentEdward
  • GrimmbearGrimmbear Member Posts: 639 ★★★
    Anyone who thinks 4 or 5 alphas over 9 days is enough is obviously at a lower stage if the game than we are. We need more alphas (which should be one of the most abundant resources) to be more available. One 5* rankup a week is stupid.
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