Tier 1 alphas

SighsohardSighsohard Member Posts: 666 ★★★
Simple. We need more t1a. Change the arena. 1 t1a every 600k points. We don’t want them for free. We will work for them. Make them available.
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  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    Sighsohard wrote: »
    Exactly. They’re there. However overpriced to all heaven. We have t4cc expiring cuz we don’t have the t1a(a lesser “valued”) resource available to us. It’s crazy. Look. It’s so easy to fix. Add t1a shards as a bonus item to our uncollected daily crystals. Or the aforementioned fix. It’s not that hard guys!

    Agree completely. @Dexman1349 map 3 crystals are irrelevant as map 3 makes no sense for us. It also makes no sense that our inventory includes t1 alpha fragments and nothing in the game is currently giving us fragments. I will forever have 1/2 an alpha with no way to fill the remaining half lol. Put alpha fragments in the solo quest milestones, daily crystals, AQ completion rewards or whatever.
  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 295
    I'm sure we've mentioned this issue enough times that Kabam reps can tell it's important.. They are probably working with the game team to do something about it, can we get a confirmation from someone that it's being looked into please? I know you can't promise anything, but please tell us you're aware and are in discussions to help us. Thanks!
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    Tempest wrote: »
    I'm sure we've mentioned this issue enough times that Kabam reps can tell it's important.. They are probably working with the game team to do something about it, can we get a confirmation from someone that it's being looked into please? I know you can't promise anything, but please tell us you're aware and are in discussions to help us. Thanks!

    That be nice
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    You’re given the option to use glory and valor how you choose but you can’t conplain about not having enough t1 alphas if you don’t buy them with these resources. You could easily pick up 3 a week with glory for about anyone in a 5x5 alliance
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    I get that if you did that you would be short on basics most likely but this game lets you choose what you need most. You can always do like a week of t1 alphas and a week of t4 basics or t2 alpha shards
  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 295
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    You’re given the option to use glory and valor how you choose but you can’t conplain about not having enough t1 alphas if you don’t buy them with these resources. You could easily pick up 3 a week with glory for about anyone in a 5x5 alliance

    Yea but 3 a week is not a lot considering ranking a 5* takes at least 5 per rank. Waiting 2 weeks to rank a 5* from 1-2 and spending all your glory on T1A just doesn't seem like a very good pace. And a 5* at rank 2 has very limited uses. The way the game has progressed, you need a 5* at R3 or a 4* at R5 before they are off the bench.

    My feeling is that this applies to the middle player base (albeit the top half), not just the top players. Right now even the broader player base are ranking 5*, at least from 1 to 2, and starting from 2 to 3. And many of these people are already playing map 5. So it's not just a matter of the top players playing higher maps and complaining those map crystals don't give T1A fragments for them to rank their 50 5* champs, it's the broader base of players that actually NEED the rewards from higher maps but ALSO the T1A.

    If they don't want to increase the availability of T1A, that's okay, but maybe they can lower the T1A requirements to rank a 5*. 5 per rank is really a lot especially compared with the cost for 4* when ranking to equivalent rank. Maybe 1 extra, but not 3-4.
  • RehctansBewRehctansBew Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    I wish they would either, reduce the number need to rank 5* to 2/3 or put them back into Map 5 Crystals. It would also be nice if they extended out the milestones for the t1a Alpha arena to 3 million. A full run could grant a total of 5 t1a. that at least allows you options.
  • Stark78AlfaStark78Alfa Member Posts: 502
    Sighsohard wrote: »
    Exactly. They’re there. However overpriced to all heaven. We have t4cc expiring cuz we don’t have the t1a(a lesser “valued”) resource available to us. It’s crazy. Look. It’s so easy to fix. Add t1a shards as a bonus item to our uncollected daily crystals. Or the aforementioned fix. It’s not that hard guys!

    Agree completely. @Dexman1349 map 3 crystals are irrelevant as map 3 makes no sense for us. It also makes no sense that our inventory includes t1 alpha fragments and nothing in the game is currently giving us fragments. I will forever have 1/2 an alpha with no way to fill the remaining half lol. Put alpha fragments in the solo quest milestones, daily crystals, AQ completion rewards or whatever.

    Map 3 crystals make all the sense if you are in need of something that it can give you.
  • IronBlaze09IronBlaze09 Member Posts: 114
    Reducing the cost to rank up 5* is an easy solution.
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    edited November 2017
    The only problem I see with that is if someone just used like 15 alphas for a rank up and then Kabam lowered the cost. Slightly unfair to players who just used alphas. Same reason why they didn’t lower 5* crystal costs. Only solution is more t1 alphas available but I don’t have a suggestion for that
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    edited November 2017
    Deadbyrd9 wrote: »
    The only problem I see with that is if someone just used like 15 alphas for a rank up and then Kabam lowered the cost. Slightly unfair to players who just used alphas. Same reason why they didn’t lower 5* crystal costs. Only solution is more t1 alphas available but I don’t have a suggestion for that

    It's not unfair at all, its the new standard. They have lowered rank up requirements before so this is nothing new.

    I"m still shocked that this hasn't been taken back to the game team yet.
  • Run477Run477 Member Posts: 1,391 ★★★
    I completely agree. The people who would “complain” about using 5 alphas to rank up other champs and now the cost is less would be the same people who would complain if kabam Gabe everyone a free 4* champ bc 4* champs are “useless” now and they want a 5* champ. You can’t please everyone. But changing the number of t1as needed to rank up 5* champs is a change that needs to be made.

    It used to take months to get one 5* champ (I think I played for like 8 months before I got my first one). Over those long periods of time, t1as aren’t that needed. But now I get a 5* seemingly monthly (unless I’m saving for a feature). I need 150 t1as just to bring all of my current 5*s to r3. I need 70 t1as just to get my current crop of 5*s to at least r2. 3 per week just isn’t enough.
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    So instead of an easier solution of more alphas being available it’s easier to decrease the cost? That doesn’t make sense. More available alphas is more fair to everyone than decreasing the cost. This pleases everyone more than having some people who just wasted alphas if the cost was changed a day later. I would be upset if I took a 5* from rank 1 to rank 4 and the next day the costs to rank up champs was changed
  • chunkybchunkyb Member, Content Creators Posts: 1,453 Content Creator
    How did this even become an argument? Just give us more ways to get t1a, pls. We don't want to run low maps for the chance of alphas. That's counterproductive. The argument that "you have glory, use it" is invalid bc glory doesn't cover the amount of alphas required.... Plus the cost increase gets a bit ridiculous. Nobody is asking for anything for free.. Just more availability.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,693 Guardian
    Tempest wrote: »
    If they don't want to increase the availability of T1A, that's okay, but maybe they can lower the T1A requirements to rank a 5*. 5 per rank is really a lot especially compared with the cost for 4* when ranking to equivalent rank. Maybe 1 extra, but not 3-4.

    That makes more sense to me (and I've suggested it) because if you crank up the availability of T1 alphas to match the huge costs of upgrading 5* champions you will just create a huge glut of them for anyone not upgrading lots of 5* champions, and it is very hard to find the sweet spot when the cost differential between 4* and 5* champions is so high (referring to t1a).

    I would rather 5* rank up t1a costs drop to 2, 3, and 4 for those rank ups respectively. That feels more in line with the other costs to rank up and keeps the resource requirements more similar in proportion, which is better for resource balancing in general.
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    edited November 2017
    Most of us that need more t1 alphas were in the spot of always having too many so I don’t see the problem in newer players being put in that scenario. At least they can start off selling them for t2 alpha shards instead of just gold
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    edited November 2017
    Sighsohard wrote: »
    Exactly. They’re there. However overpriced to all heaven. We have t4cc expiring cuz we don’t have the t1a(a lesser “valued”) resource available to us. It’s crazy. Look. It’s so easy to fix. Add t1a shards as a bonus item to our uncollected daily crystals. Or the aforementioned fix. It’s not that hard guys!

    Agree completely. @Dexman1349 map 3 crystals are irrelevant as map 3 makes no sense for us. It also makes no sense that our inventory includes t1 alpha fragments and nothing in the game is currently giving us fragments. I will forever have 1/2 an alpha with no way to fill the remaining half lol. Put alpha fragments in the solo quest milestones, daily crystals, AQ completion rewards or whatever.

    Map 3 crystals make all the sense if you are in need of something that it can give you.

    No, playing an absurdly easy map and dropping tiers for lower possible rewards so that we can potentially get a resource that is supposed to be a low level resource and easy to get does not make sense. Also I'm sure we would lose members if we started playing map 3. And even if everyone agreed to run map 3 that's not a solution unless we keep running map 3 as the underlying problem still exists. But thank you for playing.
  • DoctorJDoctorJ Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    Add t1a to map 5 crystals? No shards, just full ones.

    I do agree running a lower map or using glory js very impractical at higher levels. All glory goes to t2a shards when youre in top prestige race.
  • LeNoirFaineantLeNoirFaineant Member Posts: 8,672 ★★★★★
    Honestly even with glory the price goes up after you buy one and it takes a long time to reset. I used glory for alphas and ran the arena for them after I pulled blade and it still took a long time. Full alphas in map 5 would be great but even fragments coming back to events would be appreciated.
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    To answer the question on T1A shards: they are in the Map 3 crystals.
  • Renegade_DoggyRenegade_Doggy Member Posts: 358 ★★
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    To answer the question on T1A shards: they are in the Map 3 crystals.

    My top 50 AQ alliance doesn't want to run map 3. So we all just hoard our T4C until Kabam changes the game.

    I haven't opened one up in... 29 AQs. Maybe some day itll even itself out??
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    To answer the question on T1A shards: they are in the Map 3 crystals.

    My top 50 AQ alliance doesn't want to run map 3. So we all just hoard our T4C until Kabam changes the game.

    I haven't opened one up in... 29 AQs. Maybe some day itll even itself out??

    I have 33 t4c crystals currently
  • Dexman1349Dexman1349 Member Posts: 3,060 ★★★★★
    Player: I need this thing to advance
    Developers: They are already in the game if you do this activity
    Player: I don't want to do that
  • RehctansBewRehctansBew Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Dexman1349 wrote: »
    Player: I need this thing to advance
    Developers: They are already in the game if you do this activity
    Player: I don't want to do that

    Not sure, what level you play at, but offering 1 arena with 1 t1a, and 3 total from weekly alliance quest still puts you one short of ranking up a 5*. So to say that players don't want to do something is a joke.
  • Deadbyrd9Deadbyrd9 Member Posts: 3,469 ★★★★
    It is funny how people complain about alphas when you can get 5 at least in a 9 day period in an active alliance. Arena, 3 alliance events, and an average of 1 every 9 days ish from monthly event quests. More than enough for most people to rank 5* champs when they get them. You could even throw in a couple more from glory each aq series. That’s 7 in 9 days. Plenty available
  • RehctansBewRehctansBew Member Posts: 442 ★★★
    Draco2199 wrote: »
    I think the best way for those that aren't in the top tier to understand our pain is to remove t1a's from all Map Crystals.

    This would at least open the eyes of those that think there are plenty out there, of course 7 is plenty when you can rank a bunch of 4* with that amount. I always find humor in people from the top and bottom disagreeing on resources. We are at two very different states of the game.
  • SighsohardSighsohard Member Posts: 666 ★★★
    It’s hilarious to me hearing people say “they’re in map3 crystals”

    My alliance hasn’t played anything but 5 or 6 since the new AQ season started. So you’re saying we need to take a tier demotion to get a t1a?

    You’re clearly looking at this with blinders on lol
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