The current BG is designed like a disaster

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  • Barrier ReefBarrier Reef Member Posts: 753 ★★★

    The exaggerations and minimizing need to stop. I didn't get handed anything the last 2 Seasons. I fought my way there. I took my share of Losses, used Shields when it was optimal, and put the time and effort into it. I wasn't just catapulted into it by playing a few Matches. I played every day I was making an effort. THIS is how it should be. Not a filtration system for the top 5%.
    This absolute mockery that is posted everytime someone with a lower Rating and Roster has a modicum of success just trivializes the gaming experience for many people. It's absolutely inaccurate.
    I'm not Uncollected. I haven't been given hand-picked Matches to fast-track me to the GC. I fought my way through Plat and up with random Matches like anyone else.
    I stopped caring this Season. That might be fine for the elitists of the conversation, but I guarantee it will cascade for others. No one, not a soul, wants to play something they have no chance of progressing in, and even less people care when they're told they've been handed everything.
    I don't always talk in absolutes, but have fun destroying the game mode with that "Only the best!" mentality. Only the best deserve the top-most Ranks, no contest. They don't deserve a monopoly on the game mode.

    Buddy, I think it’s time for a break from the forums/internet for awhile.

  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,956 ★★★★★

    Keep pushing that narrative. That doesn't make it true.
    I can get out of Gold. I already said that. It's not that hard. Get 2 Wins and use Shields until I'm out.
    What I refuse to do is invest thousands of Units to do that for 9 more Tiers with one Token per Win. It's absolutely unnecessary when you consider how seeding will be played out moving forward, and it's unnecessary in general.

    If you have to invest thousands of units to do something then that means you can't do it.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Disagree. If the system has been changed to require 10 Tiers of consecutive Wins with one Token at a time, then that's the issue.
    If people want to beat their chests and scoff at "weaker" Players on here, that's nothing new. It's also not new that people feel the need to poke at something I have an issue with personally.
    No matter the argument, you can't stop it from being an issue, and quite honestly I think it's a waste to watch a good game mode go down the road of being cordoned off to one small percentage, while the rest of people stop caring. Sooner or later, you'll likely see that I'm right.
    Let's hope it isn't too late for people to take interest again like other game modes.
  • A_FungiA_Fungi Member Posts: 999 ★★★★
    I am in P3 now, just WLWLWLW

    I am only doing the objectives as the reset, no push from me this season, just see where I end up
  • Fit_Fun9329Fit_Fun9329 Member Posts: 2,185 ★★★★★
    A_Fungi said:

    I am in P3 now, just WLWLWLW

    I am only doing the objectives as the reset, no push from me this season, just see where I end up

    For me, P3 is already a push. I am in gold 2 right now, my alliance has the rule of 200k each. 180k at the moment 😅
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,140 ★★★★★

    Disagree. If the system has been changed to require 10 Tiers of consecutive Wins with one Token at a time, then that's the issue.
    If people want to beat their chests and scoff at "weaker" Players on here, that's nothing new. It's also not new that people feel the need to poke at something I have an issue with personally.
    No matter the argument, you can't stop it from being an issue, and quite honestly I think it's a waste to watch a good game mode go down the road of being cordoned off to one small percentage, while the rest of people stop caring. Sooner or later, you'll likely see that I'm right.
    Let's hope it isn't too late for people to take interest again like other game modes.

    It's not just a game mode, its competition.
    I am not poking fun at your problems, your arguments are lacking. Keeping players engagement is not the spirit of a competition. Over spending units on resources is not what a competition is.
    I am sensing some entitlement, just because you were able to make it into GC in the past 2 seasons, doesn't mean you should reach it in season 10 and foward. In true value all they did was increasing the difficulty, like every aspect of this game it has evolved to justify rewards.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    If you're sensing entitlement, you're either not listening, or you're projecting.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,956 ★★★★★

    Disagree. If the system has been changed to require 10 Tiers of consecutive Wins with one Token at a time, then that's the issue.
    If people want to beat their chests and scoff at "weaker" Players on here, that's nothing new. It's also not new that people feel the need to poke at something I have an issue with personally.
    No matter the argument, you can't stop it from being an issue, and quite honestly I think it's a waste to watch a good game mode go down the road of being cordoned off to one small percentage, while the rest of people stop caring. Sooner or later, you'll likely see that I'm right.
    Let's hope it isn't too late for people to take interest again like other game modes.

    It's a competition and for every winner, there has to be a loser. If you can't beat the person you've matched then you don't deserve to beat them. If you can't string together enough wins to raise your tier, then you don't deserve to reach that tier.

    BGs is the simplest mode in the game. Win and move up or lose and move down. If you want to win more, complain less and play more.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,140 ★★★★★

    If you're sensing entitlement, you're either not listening, or you're projecting.

    Why the hostility? Was i disrespectful to you?
    You keep on saying you made it to GC the last 2 seasons and you can't now?
    You claimed the 5% is beating their chest proudly, when you are the one beating your chest saying you made it to GC 2 times. You talk about a top 5%, I have made it to GC all 10 seasons and stopped at Arcane because that's where i feel I belong, I am nowhere near a top 5% player.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    I'm seriously over the same retort over and over. "It's a competition."
    No ****! Enough with the manipulation of what I'm saying. I never asked for anything to be handed to me, and you wonder why I'm losing patience. It's because the issue is being misconstrued and dismissed. Save your own personal judgment. You don't speak for me.
    You also don't speak for the other Players who are expected to partake in the game mode and are being trivialized. It's a competition. That doesn't mean people have the right to dictate what others do and do not deserve.
    Spare me the passive-aggressive twisting of my points. I know what I said. I know what the issue is. I'm not going to be pigeon-holed into some entitled child. I've been here for almost 8 years. I know what's reasonable and what isn't. I know what a competition is, and I know what kills interest in a game mode.
    Perhaps you don't care if people stop playing it because you'll get yours, but I do.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,140 ★★★★★
    The argument here is that the changes are awful, maybe if they hadn't changed the coin Win/Loss scoring in the first place people wouldn't have gained the false sense of hope.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,140 ★★★★★

    I'm seriously over the same retort over and over. "It's a competition."
    No ****! Enough with the manipulation of what I'm saying. I never asked for anything to be handed to me, and you wonder why I'm losing patience. It's because the issue is being misconstrued and dismissed. Save your own personal judgment. You don't speak for me.
    You also don't speak for the other Players who are expected to partake in the game mode and are being trivialized. It's a competition. That doesn't mean people have the right to dictate what others do and do not deserve.
    Spare me the passive-aggressive twisting of my points. I know what I said. I know what the issue is. I'm not going to be pigeon-holed into some entitled child. I've been here for almost 8 years. I know what's reasonable and what isn't. I know what a competition is, and I know what kills interest in a game mode.
    Perhaps you don't care if people stop playing it because you'll get yours, but I do.

    You don't speak for me either or the other people that enjoy a real competition.
    Spamming victory shields is the equivalent of spamming revives and Kabam is against that.
    I don't know why you take this super hero position of defending the people who might stop playing the mode when you are part of those.
    I cannot talk for other people or for you; but you speak for others?
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,956 ★★★★★

    I'm seriously over the same retort over and over. "It's a competition."
    No ****! Enough with the manipulation of what I'm saying. I never asked for anything to be handed to me, and you wonder why I'm losing patience. It's because the issue is being misconstrued and dismissed. Save your own personal judgment. You don't speak for me.
    You also don't speak for the other Players who are expected to partake in the game mode and are being trivialized. It's a competition. That doesn't mean people have the right to dictate what others do and do not deserve.
    Spare me the passive-aggressive twisting of my points. I know what I said. I know what the issue is. I'm not going to be pigeon-holed into some entitled child. I've been here for almost 8 years. I know what's reasonable and what isn't. I know what a competition is, and I know what kills interest in a game mode.
    Perhaps you don't care if people stop playing it because you'll get yours, but I do.

    How many people do you feel should make it to the GC?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    You've made several judgments on the points that I made, which were quite plain and clear, and interjected your own opinion. You then made a number of other assertions on what people who are having an issue deserve. Do not preach to me about being a victim.
    As for Shields, Kabam is not against using them. That's why they're infinitely available for purchase. You have an elitist attitude towards the issue, and there are many more Players in the game mode than the ones who want it more of a challenge, and for those who find it easy alone. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Don't expect me to be cordial to someone who implies I'm just whining because I had 2 easy Seasons.
    Nothing was handed to me easily. I put the work in.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,140 ★★★★★

    You've made several judgments on the points that I made, which were quite plain and clear, and interjected your own opinion. You then made a number of other assertions on what people who are having an issue deserve. Do not preach to me about being a victim.
    As for Shields, Kabam is not against using them. That's why they're infinitely available for purchase. You have an elitist attitude towards the issue, and there are many more Players in the game mode than the ones who want it more of a challenge, and for those who find it easy alone. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Don't expect me to be cordial to someone who implies I'm just whining because I had 2 easy Seasons.
    Nothing was handed to me easily. I put the work in.

    I never said you didn't put the work.
    All competitions are elitist.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,140 ★★★★★

    I'm seriously over the same retort over and over. "It's a competition."
    No ****! Enough with the manipulation of what I'm saying. I never asked for anything to be handed to me, and you wonder why I'm losing patience. It's because the issue is being misconstrued and dismissed. Save your own personal judgment. You don't speak for me.
    You also don't speak for the other Players who are expected to partake in the game mode and are being trivialized. It's a competition. That doesn't mean people have the right to dictate what others do and do not deserve.
    Spare me the passive-aggressive twisting of my points. I know what I said. I know what the issue is. I'm not going to be pigeon-holed into some entitled child. I've been here for almost 8 years. I know what's reasonable and what isn't. I know what a competition is, and I know what kills interest in a game mode.
    Perhaps you don't care if people stop playing it because you'll get yours, but I do.

    How many people do you feel should make it to the GC?
    999,999,999 because its the description of Uru3
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★

    You've made several judgments on the points that I made, which were quite plain and clear, and interjected your own opinion. You then made a number of other assertions on what people who are having an issue deserve. Do not preach to me about being a victim.
    As for Shields, Kabam is not against using them. That's why they're infinitely available for purchase. You have an elitist attitude towards the issue, and there are many more Players in the game mode than the ones who want it more of a challenge, and for those who find it easy alone. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Don't expect me to be cordial to someone who implies I'm just whining because I had 2 easy Seasons.
    Nothing was handed to me easily. I put the work in.

    I never said you didn't put the work.
    All competitions are elitist.
    Wrong. All top standings are elitist. Which is what a competition is all about. Not stonewalling anyone in a range of different progress levels at the gate, because people are bitter someone with a lower Rating advanced higher than they did.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,140 ★★★★★

    You've made several judgments on the points that I made, which were quite plain and clear, and interjected your own opinion. You then made a number of other assertions on what people who are having an issue deserve. Do not preach to me about being a victim.
    As for Shields, Kabam is not against using them. That's why they're infinitely available for purchase. You have an elitist attitude towards the issue, and there are many more Players in the game mode than the ones who want it more of a challenge, and for those who find it easy alone. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Don't expect me to be cordial to someone who implies I'm just whining because I had 2 easy Seasons.
    Nothing was handed to me easily. I put the work in.

    I never said you didn't put the work.
    All competitions are elitist.
    Wrong. All top standings are elitist. Which is what a competition is all about. Not stonewalling anyone in a range of different progress levels at the gate, because people are bitter someone with a lower Rating advanced higher than they did.
    Who is stonewalling you? Everyone is playing by the same set of rules, the only difference is roster and skill. You are facing people with bigger or better rosters or more skillful. There is no stonewall.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,956 ★★★★★

    I'm seriously over the same retort over and over. "It's a competition."
    No ****! Enough with the manipulation of what I'm saying. I never asked for anything to be handed to me, and you wonder why I'm losing patience. It's because the issue is being misconstrued and dismissed. Save your own personal judgment. You don't speak for me.
    You also don't speak for the other Players who are expected to partake in the game mode and are being trivialized. It's a competition. That doesn't mean people have the right to dictate what others do and do not deserve.
    Spare me the passive-aggressive twisting of my points. I know what I said. I know what the issue is. I'm not going to be pigeon-holed into some entitled child. I've been here for almost 8 years. I know what's reasonable and what isn't. I know what a competition is, and I know what kills interest in a game mode.
    Perhaps you don't care if people stop playing it because you'll get yours, but I do.

    How many people do you feel should make it to the GC?
    999,999,999 because its the description of Uru3
    That seems to be GWs stance.

    They won't answer my question because they know that whatever number they choose they'll then have to argue that they deserve to be in that number who advance, despite not being able to make it out of Gold, over players who are better then they are.

    That's the whole point. If they win, someone has to lose. Why does GW deserve to win when there are clearly many many players who are better than they are?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★

    You've made several judgments on the points that I made, which were quite plain and clear, and interjected your own opinion. You then made a number of other assertions on what people who are having an issue deserve. Do not preach to me about being a victim.
    As for Shields, Kabam is not against using them. That's why they're infinitely available for purchase. You have an elitist attitude towards the issue, and there are many more Players in the game mode than the ones who want it more of a challenge, and for those who find it easy alone. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Don't expect me to be cordial to someone who implies I'm just whining because I had 2 easy Seasons.
    Nothing was handed to me easily. I put the work in.

    I never said you didn't put the work.
    All competitions are elitist.
    Wrong. All top standings are elitist. Which is what a competition is all about. Not stonewalling anyone in a range of different progress levels at the gate, because people are bitter someone with a lower Rating advanced higher than they did.
    Who is stonewalling you? Everyone is playing by the same set of rules, the only difference is roster and skill. You are facing people with bigger or better rosters or more skillful. There is no stonewall.
    So changing the Tokens and adding Tiers, which amount to 10 Tiers with one Token per Win isn't stonewalling? Interesting claim.
    It would have been sufficient to add seeding. Perhaps one or two more Tiers. That's about it. Over time, they would have to meet the same Players seeded from the Season before either way.
    What you have now is nothing short of ruining the chances of most Players of advancing at all over time. You have a vacuum. At the expense of people trying to do better month after month. That is, if they're not willing to do the W-L-W-L-W dance and spend umpteen Units on Shields.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,956 ★★★★★

    You've made several judgments on the points that I made, which were quite plain and clear, and interjected your own opinion. You then made a number of other assertions on what people who are having an issue deserve. Do not preach to me about being a victim.
    As for Shields, Kabam is not against using them. That's why they're infinitely available for purchase. You have an elitist attitude towards the issue, and there are many more Players in the game mode than the ones who want it more of a challenge, and for those who find it easy alone. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Don't expect me to be cordial to someone who implies I'm just whining because I had 2 easy Seasons.
    Nothing was handed to me easily. I put the work in.

    I never said you didn't put the work.
    All competitions are elitist.
    Wrong. All top standings are elitist. Which is what a competition is all about. Not stonewalling anyone in a range of different progress levels at the gate, because people are bitter someone with a lower Rating advanced higher than they did.
    Who is stonewalling you? Everyone is playing by the same set of rules, the only difference is roster and skill. You are facing people with bigger or better rosters or more skillful. There is no stonewall.
    So changing the Tokens and adding Tiers, which amount to 10 Tiers with one Token per Win isn't stonewalling? Interesting claim.
    It would have been sufficient to add seeding. Perhaps one or two more Tiers. That's about it. Over time, they would have to meet the same Players seeded from the Season before either way.
    What you have now is nothing short of ruining the chances of most Players of advancing at all over time. You have a vacuum. At the expense of people trying to do better month after month. That is, if they're not willing to do the W-L-W-L-W dance and spend umpteen Units on Shields.
    What so you think the point of seeding is?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★

    I'm seriously over the same retort over and over. "It's a competition."
    No ****! Enough with the manipulation of what I'm saying. I never asked for anything to be handed to me, and you wonder why I'm losing patience. It's because the issue is being misconstrued and dismissed. Save your own personal judgment. You don't speak for me.
    You also don't speak for the other Players who are expected to partake in the game mode and are being trivialized. It's a competition. That doesn't mean people have the right to dictate what others do and do not deserve.
    Spare me the passive-aggressive twisting of my points. I know what I said. I know what the issue is. I'm not going to be pigeon-holed into some entitled child. I've been here for almost 8 years. I know what's reasonable and what isn't. I know what a competition is, and I know what kills interest in a game mode.
    Perhaps you don't care if people stop playing it because you'll get yours, but I do.

    How many people do you feel should make it to the GC?
    999,999,999 because its the description of Uru3
    That seems to be GWs stance.

    They won't answer my question because they know that whatever number they choose they'll then have to argue that they deserve to be in that number who advance, despite not being able to make it out of Gold, over players who are better then they are.

    That's the whole point. If they win, someone has to lose. Why does GW deserve to win when there are clearly many many players who are better than they are?
    I didn't answer because I know a trap when I see one.
    The amount is the people who earned their way there. Not the people who earned it, plus 10x harder because we don't want them there.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,956 ★★★★★

    I'm seriously over the same retort over and over. "It's a competition."
    No ****! Enough with the manipulation of what I'm saying. I never asked for anything to be handed to me, and you wonder why I'm losing patience. It's because the issue is being misconstrued and dismissed. Save your own personal judgment. You don't speak for me.
    You also don't speak for the other Players who are expected to partake in the game mode and are being trivialized. It's a competition. That doesn't mean people have the right to dictate what others do and do not deserve.
    Spare me the passive-aggressive twisting of my points. I know what I said. I know what the issue is. I'm not going to be pigeon-holed into some entitled child. I've been here for almost 8 years. I know what's reasonable and what isn't. I know what a competition is, and I know what kills interest in a game mode.
    Perhaps you don't care if people stop playing it because you'll get yours, but I do.

    How many people do you feel should make it to the GC?
    999,999,999 because its the description of Uru3
    That seems to be GWs stance.

    They won't answer my question because they know that whatever number they choose they'll then have to argue that they deserve to be in that number who advance, despite not being able to make it out of Gold, over players who are better then they are.

    That's the whole point. If they win, someone has to lose. Why does GW deserve to win when there are clearly many many players who are better than they are?
    I didn't answer because I know a trap when I see one.
    The amount is the people who earned their way there. Not the people who earned it, plus 10x harder because we don't want them there.
    It's only a trap if you're trying to argue things that don't make sense. You've been beating the "I won my matches so I deserve my rewards" drum for 9 seasons now. Why do you now feel that the people who are beating you this season don't deserve to progress and that you should progress? There could be 100 tiers and the argument would be the same. If you win, someone has to lose. Why do you deserve to win and those that better then you deserve to lose?
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,140 ★★★★★

    You've made several judgments on the points that I made, which were quite plain and clear, and interjected your own opinion. You then made a number of other assertions on what people who are having an issue deserve. Do not preach to me about being a victim.
    As for Shields, Kabam is not against using them. That's why they're infinitely available for purchase. You have an elitist attitude towards the issue, and there are many more Players in the game mode than the ones who want it more of a challenge, and for those who find it easy alone. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Don't expect me to be cordial to someone who implies I'm just whining because I had 2 easy Seasons.
    Nothing was handed to me easily. I put the work in.

    I never said you didn't put the work.
    All competitions are elitist.
    Wrong. All top standings are elitist. Which is what a competition is all about. Not stonewalling anyone in a range of different progress levels at the gate, because people are bitter someone with a lower Rating advanced higher than they did.
    Who is stonewalling you? Everyone is playing by the same set of rules, the only difference is roster and skill. You are facing people with bigger or better rosters or more skillful. There is no stonewall.
    So changing the Tokens and adding Tiers, which amount to 10 Tiers with one Token per Win isn't stonewalling? Interesting claim.
    It would have been sufficient to add seeding. Perhaps one or two more Tiers. That's about it. Over time, they would have to meet the same Players seeded from the Season before either way.
    What you have now is nothing short of ruining the chances of most Players of advancing at all over time. You have a vacuum. At the expense of people trying to do better month after month. That is, if they're not willing to do the W-L-W-L-W dance and spend umpteen Units on Shields.
    Are the rules different to the so called elitist? The rules to climb up are exactly the same for every player. Some are able to do it some are not.
    They should have not made the change of 2 coins per win and 1 coin for losing because this happens. Maybe Kabam's data shows that too many summoners are getting more rewards than expected and the change was needed. Coincidentally you made it to GC on the 2 easiest seasons.
    All competitions are elitist, some don't even have rewards unless you qualify or rank for them. Imagine training all your life and comming up 4th in the olympics. VT has participation rewards but you have to work for them which is what you do, and its fair; but sometimes people are limited to their tools (roster) and skills. A 1-1 ratio or a 2-1 Win loss ratio should not be the standard for GC.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    I'm pretty sure I haven't been beating any drum for 9 Seasons about earning my Wins. Until 2 Seasons ago. I never even made an effort. The last 2 Seasons, I put the work in and shared my journey. It was great.
    Now I could give two you know whats if I even get the Objectives, and I've seen multiple people share that they've lost the motivation to even play the game mode or try. You don't care. You don't think that's a problem. That's fine.
    At this point it's depressing because all I can do is watch it unfold, and all the criticism of people who aren't happy with the change isn't going to stop the overall effect it will have on the game mode when they start to drop off. So we can fully agree to disagree, but no one is entitled to anything but a reasonable gaming experience in an enjoyable game mode that has been ruined as of this Season.
    That's about all I have left to say.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,956 ★★★★★

    I'm pretty sure I haven't been beating any drum for 9 Seasons about earning my Wins. Until 2 Seasons ago. I never even made an effort. The last 2 Seasons, I put the work in and shared my journey. It was great.
    Now I could give two you know whats if I even get the Objectives, and I've seen multiple people share that they've lost the motivation to even play the game mode or try. You don't care. You don't think that's a problem. That's fine.
    At this point it's depressing because all I can do is watch it unfold, and all the criticism of people who aren't happy with the change isn't going to stop the overall effect it will have on the game mode when they start to drop off. So we can fully agree to disagree, but no one is entitled to anything but a reasonable gaming experience in an enjoyable game mode that has been ruined as of this Season.
    That's about all I have left to say.

    Nice strawman. How many seasons you've been arguing doesn't matter.

    You need to explain to me why you deserve to win and players who are better than you deserve to lose.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,567 ★★★★★
    Yeah, that's the definition of a strawman. Moving on, buds.
  • A_FungiA_Fungi Member Posts: 999 ★★★★
    edited August 2023
    I think part of the reason Kabam made the change to 1 token in the higher tiers is because too many people made it to the GC last season.

    However, last season was also an outlier, since AW season rewards were also tied up in there. Meaning more people played the node regularly for the increased rewards in there.

    Hoping that this true, they make some changes, and we get back to 2 tokens for a bit longer in the BG journey.

    The node is fine, even if protection pops up as soon as I use my CGR sp2 and waste it.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,140 ★★★★★

    I'm pretty sure I haven't been beating any drum for 9 Seasons about earning my Wins. Until 2 Seasons ago. I never even made an effort. The last 2 Seasons, I put the work in and shared my journey. It was great.
    Now I could give two you know whats if I even get the Objectives, and I've seen multiple people share that they've lost the motivation to even play the game mode or try. You don't care. You don't think that's a problem. That's fine.
    At this point it's depressing because all I can do is watch it unfold, and all the criticism of people who aren't happy with the change isn't going to stop the overall effect it will have on the game mode when they start to drop off. So we can fully agree to disagree, but no one is entitled to anything but a reasonable gaming experience in an enjoyable game mode that has been ruined as of this Season.
    That's about all I have left to say.

    You enjoyed it cause you were winning, you tried cause it was easier.
    The rules are the same for everyone, the person further than you had to win within the same rules you are playing. There is no stonewalls, there is a difficulty increase that is overwhelming to some players.
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