Issues with Valient only rewards

Hi Kabam (and anyone else that is reading),

I recently took my first path of necropolis. I used Aegon and 2600 units. I had an amazing experience with this long-form content. This was especially exciting because I didn't play the game when the last Everest content (abyss) came out. My rewards were great and I got a mutant 2-3 and plan on doing domino. I was and still am planning to become valiant by exploring 8.4.

However, after today's livestream, I have become increasingly worried about not being valiant. While watching the kabam livestream there was a heavy focus on objectives for the summer of pain 2.0 as valient objectives. I don't think this is very considerate to the playerbase, considering the fact that the only way to become valiant while still f2p is to explore necropolis, which take more units then most people have. I really do appriciate the time and effort Kevin and the team put into this new content, but I think it would make more sense to realease 8.4 and allow more players to become valiant.

All the best,
jj_jj~9

Comments

Pikolu

I say it is about time Valiant started having some perks other than the daily crystal and some money offers.

jj_jj_9

@Pikolu I agree with having valiant only rewards but I'm saying that limiting ways of becoming valiant to paying money and exploring necropolis is really what's bothering me.

Wicket329

I am sympathetic to this, but ultimately it is meant to be an additional incentive for players to dive into Necropolis for exploration. 8.4 will likely release towards the end of the Winter of Woe, and there will be three more Seasons of this content after that. You’ll miss out only on the first set if you are waiting for 8.4 to become Valiant. And while that is rough, it makes sense that those who got Valiant early would have a benefit to their initiative.

OlCoach67

It’s supposed to be elite & high end.

Those looking up wont like it those reaping will say finally this is why I did this.

Drago_von_Drago

I’m glad Valiants get more rewards. That should be expected.

I am disappointed the only way for current Paragon players to get there is to explore Necropolis with 1 weeks notice. Even if revive farming was an option that wouldn’t be doable for me. It would have been nice to have this start after 8.4 or have some other path to get Valiant or at least more notice that Valiant will be getting some significant extra rewards in February, prior to 8.4 so if you can do Necropolis exploration it will be worth it.

I guess this is a delayed benefit for everyone that got Valiant ASAP but ends up being a bit of a punishment for everyone that was waiting for 8.4 exploration to get the title.

Wicket329

I’m glad Valiants get more rewards. That should be expected.

I am disappointed the only way for current Paragon players to get there is to explore Necropolis with 1 weeks notice. Even if revive farming was an option that wouldn’t be doable for me. It would have been nice to have this start after 8.4 or have some other path to get Valiant or at least more notice that Valiant will be getting some significant extra rewards in February, prior to 8.4 so if you can do Necropolis exploration it will be worth it.

I guess this is a delayed benefit for everyone that got Valiant ASAP but ends up being a bit of a punishment for everyone that was waiting for 8.4 exploration to get the title.

I do think this was at least hinted at in the last live stream. I know it’s not like formal notice or anything like that, but it was mentioned and it tracks with the original Summer of Pain event.

Pikolu

I’m glad Valiants get more rewards. That should be expected.

I am disappointed the only way for current Paragon players to get there is to explore Necropolis with 1 weeks notice. Even if revive farming was an option that wouldn’t be doable for me. It would have been nice to have this start after 8.4 or have some other path to get Valiant or at least more notice that Valiant will be getting some significant extra rewards in February, prior to 8.4 so if you can do Necropolis exploration it will be worth it.

I guess this is a delayed benefit for everyone that got Valiant ASAP but ends up being a bit of a punishment for everyone that was waiting for 8.4 exploration to get the title.

In my personal opinion, people have had months to choose whether or not to get Valiant via exploring necropolis or dropping money on Cyber weekend with a completion run of necropolis. If someone months ago, while revive farming was readily available, made the decision to wait until 8.4 came out to get Valiant, then they'll need to accept the consequences that they'd miss out on everything Valiant could potentially have had between then and 8.4 releasing.

ahmynuts

Cry more. It's one of the Valiant perks at this point.

jcphillips7

Speaking of Valiant perks, anyone getting those Team Builder bundles in the store today?

ahmynuts

Speaking of Valiant perks, anyone getting those Team Builder bundles in the store today?

Overpriced IMO, so no

jcphillips7

Speaking of Valiant perks, anyone getting those Team Builder bundles in the store today?
Overpriced IMO, so no

Yea the daily card was more my speed, but this doesn’t seem that appealing. More future proofing yourself with T4A

ahmynuts

Speaking of Valiant perks, anyone getting those Team Builder bundles in the store today?
Overpriced IMO, so no
Yea the daily card was more my speed, but this doesn’t seem that appealing. More future proofing yourself with T4A

Yeah, 10% really doesn't seem that enticing to me at this point since I'm so far away from 3 t4a. If the 5k shards got me a 7 star i might've picked it up

Pikolu

Speaking of Valiant perks, anyone getting those Team Builder bundles in the store today?
Overpriced IMO, so no
Yea the daily card was more my speed, but this doesn’t seem that appealing. More future proofing yourself with T4A
Yeah, 10% really doesn't seem that enticing to me at this point since I'm so far away from 3 t4a. If the 5k shards got me a 7 star i might've picked it up

T4a isn't appealing to me when you need 5 t6cc anyways to r3 a 7*

Squirrelguy

Just as a general point, for those of you who are trying to push for Valiant (or TB) before new EOP drops, Jax mentioned on the stream that there should be one extra point, and each champion has only one Valiant objective, so you technically have an extra two weeks to push for Valiant before you would start losing rewards.

Now, I am all for Valiant players to start getting unique rewards, they've earned it. It is a bit of a bummer for those of us who can explore Necropolis but didn't have the luxury of 10k extra units to bludgeon our way through early on, since we didn't have incentive early on for exploration beyond the daily crystal or just bragging rights. I'm about to start my 4th trip through Necro tomorrow (?), but I might have focused even more on exploration quicker if there had been any notice of Valiant exclusive content coming so soon. Honestly, the rewards aren't game-changing to someone at that level, but this would have been an easy little carrot that Kabam could have mentioned in response to the 2 million "Valiant isn't even worth it" complaints I've read over the last month. It also would have been a nice heads up to players who are trying to go through at a more leisurly pace.

Lovejoy72

Speaking of Valiant perks, anyone getting those Team Builder bundles in the store today?

Haven’t bought any valiant deals. I did get all the quest potions though! Finish up that last bit of necro.

EBG78

@Pikolu I agree with having valiant only rewards but I'm saying that limiting ways of becoming valiant to paying money and exploring necropolis is really what's bothering me.

Here’s the simple truth: If you really wanted the Valient title, you could’ve farmed the revs to explore it before the fix to rev farming was in place and explored Necro for free. You saw that the easier path to Valient was to explore 8.4, so you chose to wait.

Ayden_noah1

I'm Paragon and I'm don't see a problem with the highest progression getting better rewards. This will entice Paragon players like me to push for Valiant. Lets be honet here, if you spend money in this (or 95% of games) you will have an advantage so I'm ok with spenders getting a head start.

Avnish

Where were you bro when so many from community grinding revive from 5.4.6 and doing exploration. Now revive framing is officially over then you just woke up and saying this...

I explored necropolis in Jan 1st week and become valient. Now I will just have fun with valiant rewards. I am also FTP. It is simple thing for being valient with money or do some high level content. As you FTP you should have been active and finish the exploration way before revive farming get Nerfed.

FYI kabam has already announced they will release 8.4 in spring if I am not wrong.

Free advice - if you want to grow faster in this game than you to deal with the everast content otherwise there is no way. Just playing EQ,SQ won't be enough.

Deathsworker

Considering the only way to finish Necropolis was revive farming (which everyone did to explore it) and then they nerfed it and now offer valiant only rewards. OP point is a valid point.

ahmynuts

Speaking of Valiant perks, anyone getting those Team Builder bundles in the store today?
Overpriced IMO, so no
Yea the daily card was more my speed, but this doesn’t seem that appealing. More future proofing yourself with T4A
Yeah, 10% really doesn't seem that enticing to me at this point since I'm so far away from 3 t4a. If the 5k shards got me a 7 star i might've picked it up
T4a isn't appealing to me when you need 5 t6cc anyways to r3 a 7*

That is also a very good point

ahmynuts

Considering the only way to finish Necropolis was revive farming

Skill issue?

Pikolu

Considering the only way to finish Necropolis was revive farming (which everyone did to explore it) and then they nerfed it and now offer valiant only rewards. OP point is a valid point.

As a counterpoint, I never farmed revives to get through necropolis, and my unit spend was on EQ bundles for free revives, potions, and boosts. So revive farming isn't the only way to get through it.

Drago_von_Drago

Considering the only way to finish Necropolis was revive farming (which everyone did to explore it) and then they nerfed it and now offer valiant only rewards. OP point is a valid point.
As a counterpoint, I never farmed revives to get through necropolis, and my unit spend was on EQ bundles for free revives, potions, and boosts. So revive farming isn't the only way to get through it.

Do you have an estimate on how many units you spent on it total? I don’t think it’s doable for me but I’m curious how many I’d need.

Deathsworker

Considering the only way to finish Necropolis was revive farming (which everyone did to explore it) and then they nerfed it and now offer valiant only rewards. OP point is a valid point.
As a counterpoint, I never farmed revives to get through necropolis, and my unit spend was on EQ bundles for free revives, potions, and boosts. So revive farming isn't the only way to get through it.

That just depends on the average player who goes through the EQ and buys bundles and also has units saved up to do so. Not everyone enjoys grinding arenas and people most likely saved up for banquet.

Pikolu

Considering the only way to finish Necropolis was revive farming (which everyone did to explore it) and then they nerfed it and now offer valiant only rewards. OP point is a valid point.
As a counterpoint, I never farmed revives to get through necropolis, and my unit spend was on EQ bundles for free revives, potions, and boosts. So revive farming isn't the only way to get through it.
Do you have an estimate on how many units you spent on it total? I don’t think it’s doable for me but I’m curious how many I’d need.

I think I bought 3 or 4 EQ bundles, so it was only 3-4k units. With the current potion bundle for 500 units, you can get more revives than I did. The team revives were mostly used just on the GM and a few other fights like storm X.

I should note I also had a really large stash of various revives including romance revives I got in 2022 🤣

xLunatiXx

I'm ftp and valiant. No excuses for you. Get in there and do what's required.

EBG78

That just depends on the average player who goes through the EQ and buys bundles and also has units saved up to do so. Not everyone enjoys grinding arenas and people most likely saved up for banquet.

So you want the top title, but you don’t want to farm revives over 2 months (mid November to mid January) and you don’t want to grind arenas?

Deathsworker

That just depends on the average player who goes through the EQ and buys bundles and also has units saved up to do so. Not everyone enjoys grinding arenas and people most likely saved up for banquet.
So you want the top title, but you don’t want to farm revives over 2 months (mid November to mid January) and you don’t want to grind arenas?

Didn't say me. I'm just posting counter arguments, it's easy to join the general consensus on the forums.

1. doesn't mean everyone knew about revive farming
2. doesn't mean everyone has time to do all that

Ironman3000

If you can't get Valiant, you don't deserve Valiant rewards.

EBG78

Didn't say me. I'm just posting counter arguments, it's easy to join the general consensus on the forums.

1. doesn't mean everyone knew about revive farming
2. doesn't mean everyone has time to do all that

But that’s essentially what you’re saying. The top title shouldn’t just be handed out. It needs to be earned. And rewards for the title, since it’s elite, should be given to those who have attained it. Otherwise, what is the point in titles?